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If US Senators are absolutely useless during times of great need especially during one of the worst natural disasters this state has ever seen, then why do we need him ever?

The basics in life are not there right now - power and water for much of the state.

He could be working with Fema to get us even more resources. He could be working on getting us the aid we are going to need to get back up.

The food supply chain is shut down for the next month. Refineries have shut down and we are low on gas everywhere. Dairy farmers in Texas are losing $10M a day - they are going to need aid.

I mean, if a senator can't be there for his constituents during times like this, why do we ever need him?

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To pretend like a US senator is as powerless to do anything to help Texans right now as a bump on a log is to admit that either the position of senator is meaningless and empty, or that Cancun Cruz himself is powerless and impotent.

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So, what could Cruz do? Biden my not remember approving the disaster declaration, but he did. So now there is federal assistance available.

Couple this trip and his remarks about California's power outages , he definitely comes across as a typical elitist , hypocritical politician.

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Holy crap, are y'all serious right now? Ted Cruz flying to Cancun is him somehow fulfilling his constitutional duty? Did he tell you how it tastes too?

He's no Texan. I can't fix a power plant but I'm here finding food for my neighbors or helping them unthaw pipes or calling to friends to see if they are ok and to help them find shelters. To say there's nothing he can do is to say he's not even a person. An Ag doesn't leave their neighbors in the cold and a real Texan isn't in Mexico when Texas needs us. This man doesn't deserve y'all's excuses.

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Funny how libs show up in mass at 5:50 am. Look at all the blue stars on lefty posts on page 4. As a system analyst I'd say there is a chance we have a either a bot problem given the bad math or some level of coordinated propaganda.

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My account was created in 2005 - what difference does it make? Why are you calling people out for posting at 5:50 when you are responding at 5:58?

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Because I want to and can smell a rat. Basic math and pattern matching. Lots of stars to new accounts at that time is not likely to be a real thing.

But as a lib you probably aren't much into critical thinking, thus missing the point.

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Well that's an intelligent response. Never understood kindergarten name calling in political discussions. BTW - as a fellow Aggie - we should do better.

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Fellow Aggie?

No need to insult TTU85

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I know there are a lot of trolls on here jumping on anything that will make Cruz look bad. I'm not trying to bash Cruz, but it's undeniable that going to Cancun during the middle of a natural disaster appears out of touch and unengaged.

I'm done with this thread, enjoy your mental gymnastics trying to spin this as a positive.

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I see few "spinning it as a positive". I, for one, am filing it under "I really don't give a rat's ass because I have more important things to worry about".

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Couple this trip and his remarks about California's power outages , he definitely comes across as a typical elitist , hypocritical politician.

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California's power issues are an annual thing because they refuse to take care of the underbrush, so the do rolling blackouts to prevent wild fires. What happened in Texas is a once every quarter century occurrence. That's the biggest difference, and honestly, if there were $10mm earmarked for weather improvements, I'd prefer it be used to keep power on during hurricanes/floods vs. single digit temps, because one happens frequently.

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I'm not surprised at all the people here defending Fled Cruz. Many of you have been all in for years now, defending the indefensible is old hat for you. But to those of you still capable of intellectual honesty: aren't you tired of it? I'm tired just from watching y'all do it.

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Says the liberal leftist progressive minion that defends the complete utter lies by the leftist progressive. Disgusting. Recent example AOC's lies about being int the capital, that seems to be a much more egregious performance than taking a vacation.

But you be you a hypocrite in constant defense of the party of hate, lies and retribution.

It may be unfair, but the optics on this are horrible. If he runs for President, and especially if he runs for Senate again, the attack ads write themselves. Those type of ads really resonate even with your supporters.

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Wow, 6 pages mostly of people defending a senator who goes on vacation while millions of his constituents are suffering. Impressive, even for this place!

And yet... YOU know what your gut reaction was when you first heard that Cancun Cruz went to Mexico while you/your family/your friends having been sitting for days in your cold, dark houses. Denial. Dismay. Disgust. And then you put those feelings aside and carried Cruz's water while you pretend like it doesn't piss you off that the man went on vacation during a state-wide crisis. Most of you can't even bring yourselves to admit that this was, at the very least, an extremely stupid and mind-bogglingly tone-deaf move on his part. Sad!

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Again...

Cruz has two jobs as a Texas senator.

1. Vote for conservative bills and block liberal ones.

2. Confirm conservative judges and block liberal ones.


That's it. Period. If he does that I don't give a **** where he goes or what he does.

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There are some who might not care but it's undoubtedly a terrible look for a leader to be seen as leaving their constituents in what could be considered their hour of greatest need.
Even if it's true that there is little he could do by remaining, the optics don't look good.

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There isn't "little" he could do, there was precisely nothing he could do. He is a federal senator, and as such he has zero involvement in getting local and state bureaucracies to do their job.

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To say he has no influence is wrong.

To say he has no responsibility is wrong.

Having our sitting Senator abandon the state in one of our greatest crises is wrong.

Texas needs help. At the very least, he could help out at one of the many 'warming shelters' setup around the state.

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Have you volunteered? Checked on neighbors? Checked on own family? Another lib hypocrite.

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Wow, 6 pages mostly of people defending a senator who goes on vacation while millions of his constituents are suffering. Impressive, even for this place!

And yet... YOU know what your gut reaction was when you first heard that Cancun Cruz went to Mexico while you/your family/your friends having been sitting for days in your cold, dark houses. Denial. Dismay. Disgust. And then you put those feelings aside and carried Cruz's water while you pretend like it doesn't piss you off that the man went on vacation during a state-wide crisis. Most of you can't even bring yourselves to admit that this was, at the very least, an extremely stupid and mind-bogglingly tone-deaf move on his part. Sad!

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Good grief. The amount of blood is amazing.

That requires too much work. Better to be outraged on the internet.

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Couple this trip and his remarks about California's power outages , he definitely comes across as a typical elitist , hypocritical politician.

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Not really. It's hot in California every summer. Their system should be designed to take that into account. A freak winter storm hits Texas and we lose power. Neither are the same situation.

People usually book flights and secure flights to schedule vacations weeks or months ahead of time. Of course, some will argue that Ted Cruz could have he could have let his family go without him. Still, it's not a good look for Ted Cruz because he is living it up in Cancun, while millions of his constituents are freezing without power and water.

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Also, not that it matters, Do we even know it's real and not an old pic or something?

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I thought it might be an old photo, but everyone is wearing masks. Maybe old photo flying off somewhere else?

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Well this sh** has been going on for quite some time and I'm sure he flies quite a bit. For the record, I think it's real, and I don't care. This is nothing like the blatant hypocrisy of Pelosi and Newsome and other heroes of the left. Or Obama telling us we need to make hard sacrifices for the environment and having the individual carbon footprint of a small town, living in a seaside mansion.

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Agree. The liberals, leftists and progressives defend and deflect actual indefensible lies perpetrated by the Democratic Party leadership and MSM, but eagerly conflate bull**** like this. They have no moral compass and are being successfully used by unethical corrupt liars.

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I know there are a lot of trolls on here jumping on anything that will make Cruz look bad. I'm not trying to bash Cruz, but it's undeniable that going to Cancun during the middle of a natural disaster appears out of touch and unengaged.

I'm done with this thread, enjoy your mental gymnastics trying to spin this as a positive.

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What if it's his cousin's wedding and they booked the trip 5 months ago?

Or he's going to see a dying relative in their last days and he booked the trip 2 weeks ago?

Point is. We don't know. It's none of our business.

And, I'm sorry, but whomever compared this disaster with any of the recent hurricanes that plastered the Houston area is being a bit too dramatic. This is no where near hurricane level disaster and implications. Being cold and without power for a couple of days is nowhere near losing your entire home forever.

A crap ton of fixing pipes and home improvement projects will consume the state for the next few months, but come on man! This situation sucks, but let's have some perspective.

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While millions of Texans are without power and water in subzero temperatures, Ted Cruz flew to Cancun for a vacation.

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So you are more worried about Cruz and his family taking a vacation to Cancun while your boy Biden is:
Allowing boys to compete in girls sports
Ignoring the threat of China
Starting to crash the economy
Going to remove your second amendment rights
Stating that minorities can't work a computer
Continuing to lock us down while opening up the border.
Yep, a Cruz vacation is going to kill our state and country.

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If US Senators are absolutely useless during times of great need especially during one of the worst natural disasters this state has ever seen, then why do we need him ever?

The basics in life are not there right now - power and water for much of the state.

The food supply chain is shut down for the next month. Refineries have shut down and we are low on gas everywhere. Dairy farmers in Texas are losing $10M a day - they are going to need aid.

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I'm on board with this being a bad look for Cruz. It is. No denying that. I'm also ok with holding judgement and hearing him out on why he couldn't change the plans.

But do you really think this is one of the worst disasters in our states history? I guess it could become so. Its certainly the worst failure in our electric grid history. But let's hold off judgment of disaster rankings.

By my calculations much of the state has water and power and never or rarely lost power. This could change but my understanding is peak power outage was 3-4 million. There are close to 30 million of us around here. Are you using Covid math to determine severity? If you are I would caution against it. It creates mass hysteria for no reason.

I feel for the dairy industry losing money. I do. $10 million a day hurts. Will it be $10 million for over a week? 10 days? Lets just say its 10 days and $100 million. That is significant to be sure. But Texas Dairy industry is close to $2 billion a year industry if I'm not mistaken. I'm sure with their margins 5-10% can be difficult. But I still think it's important to keep some perspective.

And I'm not unsympathetic. I have family and friends that have gone without power this week. Some who are already dealing with pipe bursts. We've been helping. And it sucks. But hurricanes, flood events, and tornadoes suck alot more and we have those every year.

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People usually book flights and secure flights to schedule vacations weeks or months ahead of time. Of course, some will argue that Ted Cruz could have he could have let his family go without him. Still, it's not a good look for Ted Cruz because he is living it up in Cancun, while millions of his constituents are freezing without power and water.

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Biden was living it up at Camp David while millions of children are not able to go to school because of the teachers unions, resulting in long-term mental impact to kids, prolonged abuse at home, lack of access to food, and some committing suicide due to the isolation. Yet nobody was outraged at that. Did you hear he beat one of the grandkids he acknowledges at Mario Kart?

So rare 30 year events are now rare 10 year events. It happened in 2011. We had to borrow power from mexico.

It isn't as rare any more.

Basically, this board is saying a US Senator can do absolutely nothing to help his state during a crisis and is powerless.

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Couple this trip and his remarks about California's power outages , he definitely comes across as a typical elitist , hypocritical politician.

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California's power issues are an annual thing because they refuse to take care of the underbrush, so the do rolling blackouts to prevent wild fires. What happened in Texas is a once every quarter century occurrence. That's the biggest difference, and honestly, if there were $10mm earmarked for weather improvements, I'd prefer it be used to keep power on during hurricanes/floods vs. single digit temps, because one happens frequently.

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I understand perfectly that California's problems are self-inflicted because of ridiculous state policies there.

I'm talking about perception issues for Cruz. If anyone here thinks this trip and his tweet about California won't be used ,and effectively used, against him and Republicans then I can only say you live in an alternate universe from reality. you know the same one that predicted a Trump landslide and and a 10 point victory over Beta

Republicans need to flip the dialogue and show how increasing reliance on wind power was the cause of our shortages and start talking about nuclear power as the solution.Cruz should be in Houston right now making that argument not in Cancun.

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Wow, 6 pages mostly of people defending a senator who goes on vacation while millions of his constituents are suffering. Impressive, even for this place!

And yet... YOU know what your gut reaction was when you first heard that Cancun Cruz went to Mexico while you/your family/your friends having been sitting for days in your cold, dark houses. Denial. Dismay. Disgust. And then you put those feelings aside and carried Cruz's water while you pretend like it doesn't piss you off that the man went on vacation during a state-wide crisis. Most of you can't even bring yourselves to admit that this was, at the very least, an extremely stupid and mind-bogglingly tone-deaf move on his part. Sad!

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Again...

Cruz has two jobs as a Texas senator.

1. Vote for conservative bills and block liberal ones.

2. Confirm conservative judges and block liberal ones.


That's it. Period. If he does that I don't give a **** where he goes or what he does.

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That's reasonable but in order to do those things he has to be sent to DC in the first place. Ted is not the most likable guy. The 18 election showed that he simply rubs a lot of people the wrong way, thus an empty suit like Beto came within a few points of defeating him. Ted needs to realize this and take actions to make sure 24 is not close like 18. Boneheaded moves like going on vacation during times like this is just simply dumb for a person in his position.

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While millions of Texans are without power and water in subzero temperatures, Ted Cruz flew to Cancun for a vacation.

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There are power outages all across America every day of the year. There are places with subzero temperatures in America probably 4 or 5 months a year. I guess he could stay home every day and make you liberals happy but he realizes a liberal is never happy, always bitter, always whining, always envious.

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So rare 30 year events are now rare 10 year events. It happened in 2011. We had to borrow power from mexico.

It isn't as rare any more.

Basically, this board is saying a US Senator can do absolutely nothing to help his state during a crisis and is powerless.

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He should get the hell out of the way and let people who work in the field do their jobs. Not meddle.

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So rare 30 year events are now rare 10 year events. It happened in 2011. We had to borrow power from mexico.

It isn't as rare any more.

Basically, this board is saying a US Senator can do absolutely nothing to help his state during a crisis and is powerless.

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Do you understand the difference in federal vs state/local elected officials?

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If US Senators are absolutely useless during times of great need especially during one of the worst natural disasters this state has ever seen, then why do we need him ever?

The basics in life are not there right now - power and water for much of the state.

He could be working with Fema to get us even more resources. He could be working on getting us the aid we are going to need to get back up.

The food supply chain is shut down for the next month. Refineries have shut down and we are low on gas everywhere. Dairy farmers in Texas are losing $10M a day - they are going to need aid.

I mean, if a senator can't be there for his constituents during times like this, why do we ever need him?

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To pretend like a US senator is as powerless to do anything to help Texans right now as a bump on a log is to admit that either the position of senator is meaningless and empty, or that Cancun Cruz himself is powerless and impotent.

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Does crossing into Mexico make him powerless?

So like inviting a vampire into your house?

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While millions of Texans are without power and water in subzero temperatures, Ted Cruz flew to Cancun for a vacation.

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So you are more worried about Cruz and his family taking a vacation to Cancun while your boy Biden is:
Allowing boys to compete in girls sports
Ignoring the threat of China
Starting to crash the economy
Going to remove your second amendment rights
Stating that minorities can't work a computer
Continuing to lock us down while opening up the border.
Yep, a Cruz vacation is going to kill our state and country.

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Biden's sending emergency aid to Texas and supplying the state with generators. He's also authorized FEMA to provide food, water, and blankets to people in need. He's stepping up in a time of need.

Whereas Ted is going on vacay because this **** ain't his problem, and who can forget Donald threatening to withhold wildfire aid from CA because he was butthurt about them voting against him.

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So rare 30 year events are now rare 10 year events. It happened in 2011. We had to borrow power from mexico.

It isn't as rare any more.

Basically, this board is saying a US Senator can do absolutely nothing to help his state during a crisis and is powerless.

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Cruz has two jobs as a Texas senator.

1. Vote for conservative bills and block liberal ones.

2. Confirm conservative judges and block liberal ones.


That's it. Period. If he does that I don't give a **** where he goes or what he does.

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agjacent said:

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While millions of Texans are without power and water in subzero temperatures, Ted Cruz flew to Cancun for a vacation.

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So you are more worried about Cruz and his family taking a vacation to Cancun while your boy Biden is:
Allowing boys to compete in girls sports
Ignoring the threat of China
Starting to crash the economy
Going to remove your second amendment rights
Stating that minorities can't work a computer
Continuing to lock us down while opening up the border.
Yep, a Cruz vacation is going to kill our state and country.

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Biden's sending emergency aid to Texas and supplying the state with generators. He's also authorized FEMA to provide food, water, and blankets to people in need. He's stepping up in a time of need.

Whereas Ted is going on vacay because this **** ain't his problem, and who can forget Donald threatening to withhold wildfire aid from CA because he was butthurt about them voting against him.

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Biden is a DUMBASS for doing that. Get rid of liberal anti-"gouging" laws and generators would come flooding in by that thousands without a single tax dollar being spent. It is hilarious that you guys are not smart enough to see Biden's "action" for what it is: buying votes with other people's money.

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While millions of Texans are without power and water in subzero temperatures, Ted Cruz flew to Cancun for a vacation.

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This is so "meh" to me. What's someone on the left going to try a "gotcha" with, that Ted can afford to buy the same "fancy" ice cream that Pelosi eats? That he has an Ivy League education?

None of those things have any relevance in what's going on in the world, especially him going to someplace to get away from the cold. If I had his time and resources I'd do the same. I'm sure most would.

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So rare 30 year events are now rare 10 year events. It happened in 2011. We had to borrow power from mexico.

It isn't as rare any more.

Basically, this board is saying a US Senator can do absolutely nothing to help his state during a crisis and is powerless.

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Nobody said that. Are you saying that at this time he must be in a suit and tie at the desk of the ERCOT CEO? Are you saying that he hasn't made any phone calls or had any other types of meetings about the situation? Maybe you'd be satisfied if he were out handing out blankets and disrupting the situation.....

Keep digging. Maybe you'll find something genuine to be outraged about.

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Biden's sending emergency aid to Texas and supplying the state with generators. He's also authorized FEMA to provide food, water, and blankets to people in need. He's stepping up in a time of need.

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Basically he signed a paper to authorize FEMA to do the job they have already been paid to do.
Better be solar or wind powered generators and the food better be organic and gluten free

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AggDogg61 said:

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agjacent said:

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While millions of Texans are without power and water in subzero temperatures, Ted Cruz flew to Cancun for a vacation.

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So you are more worried about Cruz and his family taking a vacation to Cancun while your boy Biden is:
Allowing boys to compete in girls sports
Ignoring the threat of China
Starting to crash the economy
Going to remove your second amendment rights
Stating that minorities can't work a computer
Continuing to lock us down while opening up the border.
Yep, a Cruz vacation is going to kill our state and country.

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Biden's sending emergency aid to Texas and supplying the state with generators. He's also authorized FEMA to provide food, water, and blankets to people in need. He's stepping up in a time of need.

Whereas Ted is going on vacay because this **** ain't his problem, and who can forget Donald threatening to withhold wildfire aid from CA because he was butthurt about them voting against him.

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So you're saying that the federal programs have already been activated by Biden approving Abbott's request? Ok then, what more can Cruz do at the federal level? The issues are at the state level and Abbott has the support of the feds.

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Disaster strikes Texas and Beto launches his bid for governor.

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"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel, straight out of the handbook

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Now he is "helping" people. No none of this is coordinated to help his chances for office. None, zip, zero. He isn't trying to score political points here.

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No politician does anything without a calculated outcome - even an idiot like O'rourke.