*****OFFICIAL ELECTION DAY THREAD*****

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Why was comparing signatures to voter registration signatures on file never in the scope?!?
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I believe it's saying comparing envelope signatures not ballot signatures.

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V8Aggie said:

I believe it's saying comparing envelope signatures not ballot signatures.


I thought the signatures are on the envelopes and that there are no signatures on the ballots.
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Just an update on the number of states who have decreed no more Zuckerberg Bucks in their elections.

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Florida became the fifth state in 2021 to enact a law prohibiting the private funding of election administration on Thursday after Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) signed a comprehensive election integrity bill into law with a clear and enforceable ban on the controversial practice.

The Sunshine State joins Georgia, Arizona, Idaho, and Louisiana, all of whom have enacted similar laws this year. The state legislatures in several other states, including Texas, are in the final steps of passing their own legislation banning such private funding of election administration.
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The language of Florida Senate Bill 90 is now codified in Section 97.0291 of Florida Statutes. It states:
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No agency or state or local official responsible for conducting elections, including, but not limited to, a supervisor of elections, may solicit, accept, use, or dispose of any donation in the form of money, grants, property, or personal services from an individual or a nongovernmental entity for the purpose of funding election-related expenses or voter education, voter outreach, or registration programs.

This section does not prohibit the donation and acceptance of space to be used for a polling room or an early voting site

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Private funding of election administration was virtually unknown in the American political system until the 2020 presidential election, when Facebook CEO and founder Mark Zuckerberg and his wife Priscilla Chan donated $350 million to the Center for Technology and Civic Life (CTCL), which provided funding to county and municipal governments around the country for election administration, and $69 million to the Center for Election Innovation and Research (CEIR), which provided funding to 23 state governments, primarily through the Secretary of State's office, also for the funding of election administration.
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Zuckerberg-funded non-profits spent millions of dollars in the 2020 presidential election to privately fund election administration at both the county and state level in several key battleground states, including Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and Florida.

Critics claim President Biden's narrow victories over former President Trump in Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Nevada were aided by these Zuckerberg-funded non-profits, who, they argue, functioned as, in effect, Democratic GOTV operatives.

Though former President Trump defeated President Biden by a narrow margin in Florida in 2020, both of the Zuckerberg-funded non-profits provided grants at the county, municipal and state levels in the state.

The Foundation for Government Accountability reported in February "CTCL funneled more than $7 million into roughly 16 percent of Florida's countiesand 80 percent of Florida counties with a population of more than one million." That CTCL funding went to 12 Florida counties in 2020, including Broward, Miami-Dade, Hillsborough, and Palm Beach.

The CEIR provided a modest $287,474 grant to the state of Florida, a marked contrast to the $5.6 million it spent in Georgia, $11 million in Michigan, and $13 million in Pennsylvania.

Under the newly enacted law, neither the CTCL nor the CEIR will be able to provide such grants to any state, county, or municipal entity in Florida for any subsequent election in the state.
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Very good thing and I hope it keeps happening in a majority of states. Under the Constitution and SCOTUS decision in Citizens United I don't believe such a ban would work at the federal level without a serious court challenge.

At the state level however the Constitution grants the state legislatures plenary power to determine how to conduct their own elections.

I view the exploitation of the previous silence on private monies being utilized to undermine election laws, as occurred in 2020, to be viewed in tandem with the popular vote compact wherein the wishes of the citizens of those particular states are dismissed in favor of the national popular vote winner. Had that pact been in place by enough states to reach 270 electoral votes, you can see how the Dems planned on ensuring election victories ad infinitum.
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aggiehawg said:

Hobbs won't take questions.



FTR: Don't wear heels when your ass is that large. Nor pantsuits for that matter




Boom. Roasted.
My pronouns are AFUERA/AHORA!
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After an all-night session, the Texas state House passed a GOP-backed measure that would bar public officials from sending out mail-in ballot applications without prior requests for them and implement strict rules on the number of voting machines at polling places in major cities.

The bill was moved forward by an 81-64 vote at approximately 3 a.m. following an all-night session led by Democrats' opposition to the proposal.

The state Senate has approved a separate measure that also limits early voting rules and bans drive-through voting.
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Texas Gov. Greg Abbot (R) has expressed support for signing an election reform bill, meaning a form of the legislation is likely to become Texas law. The House bill will have to be reconciled with the Senate bill before a measure can go to Abbot's desk for his possible signature.

Texas is one of several states that is considering or has already approved changes to voting laws after the tumultuous election of 2020, where mail-in voting skyrocketed amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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Oh horsesh*t.....Take them to court and make them prove this claim. <- would be comic gold for a tech nerd. Think your Great Grandpa trying to explain the intrawebs

1) routers and switches have little more than ACL's, ARP, and XLATE tables.
2) If these machines store sensitive data of that nature, we have a bigger problem with compliance and security.

Good lord the corruption is only outdone by the coverup
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We fixed the keg said:

Oh horsesh*t.....Take them to court and make them prove this claim.

1) routers and switches have little more than ACL's, ARP, and XLATE tables.
2) If these machines store sensitive data of that nature, we have a bigger problem with compliance and security.

Good lord the corruption is only outdone by the coverup
Agree, Maricopa County should be forced to put up or shut up in a closed hearing with the evidence kept under seal. Prove to the judge that what they are claiming is even possible. With the Cyber Ninjas by their side, the attorneys should be able to rip them to shreds.
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In his interview with OAN Ken Bennett said Dominion is refusing to comply with the State Senate's subpoena and is hiding the second password for their machines.

Dominion was in charge of the Maricopa County election. And now they are refusing to cooperated with a subpoena.
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I haven't gone back and checked but my impression is that Dominion was not a named party within the confines of the actual subpoena. OTOH, they are contractually obligated to cooperate upon demand by Maricopa County.

They won't demand that Dominion honors that portion of the contract unless a court forces them to do so. More court battles and delays.
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aggiehawg said:

Just an update on the number of states who have decreed no more Zuckerberg Bucks in their elections.

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Florida became the fifth state in 2021 to enact a law prohibiting the private funding of election administration on Thursday aft.......

My snarking comment

Only 52 more states to go.

I remember
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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#stolen
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aggiehawg said:

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After an all-night session, the Texas state House passed a GOP-backed measure that would bar public officials from sending out mail-in ballot applications without prior requests for them and implement strict rules on the number of voting machines at polling places in major cities.

The bill was moved forward by an 81-64 vote at approximately 3 a.m. following an all-night session led by Democrats' opposition to the proposal.

The state Senate has approved a separate measure that also limits early voting rules and bans drive-through voting.
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Texas Gov. Greg Abbot (R) has expressed support for signing an election reform bill, meaning a form of the legislation is likely to become Texas law. The House bill will have to be reconciled with the Senate bill before a measure can go to Abbot's desk for his possible signature.

Texas is one of several states that is considering or has already approved changes to voting laws after the tumultuous election of 2020, where mail-in voting skyrocketed amid the coronavirus pandemic.
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I absolutely hate this comment from the article:
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Former President Trump has repeatedly made baseless accusations that the presidential election was stolen from him.
The claim, "the accusations are baseless", is an out and out lie and is the propaganda spewed by the Democratic Party leadership, leftist progressives and legacy media.
  • Depositions in numerous states
  • Statistical anomalies
  • Late night unobserved ballot drops
  • Observers barred from observing
  • States not following their own election laws exasperated by neutered courts.
  • Video evidence of hidden ballet boxes
  • Thousands of illegitimate addresses on mail in ballots
  • and many more
The list is undeniable there is evidence. What was lacking is an honest transparent investigation, hopefully we will be getting those moving forward.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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Neil Johnson has some interesting comments this morning on the situation in New Hampshire. Video at Link.

For some reason can't get the youtube to embed.
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Take out the &list at end.

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Thanks!
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Yeah, so about that Arizona audit done by Pro V&V and SLI?

Saw this from the report. Link

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The firms have attested they have not hired Dominion or any other former voting systems employees. Furthermore, the U.S. Election Assistance Commission provides hiring restrictions for certified Voting System Test Laboratories. If a firm were to hire a former voting system employee, that employee would be barred from development and testing of equipment of their former employer for at least three years.
Yet it is a-okay for long term employees at Dominion to go to work for the EAC who then certifies the voting systems? In 2019 when Ryan Macias left EAC, Jerome Lovato took his place and hired Jessica Bowers directly from Dominion when she had worked on certification issues for Dominion for over ten years. EAC is very small, less than 20 employees.
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From same link.

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These tests looked for evidence of the tabulations system ability to connect to the internet and if the tabulators and/or system was transmitting information outside the closed air gapped system within the county tabulation center or while being delivered, returned, or used at a vote center.
  • SLI reviewed system registry, system files, installed programs, download history, audit logs, USB/Ethernet history logs. NO ISSUES
  • Pro V&V ran server commands to test for connectivity. NO ISSUES
  • Both firms physically inspected and traced the wiring of the air-gapped system between the server, tabulators, adjudication stations, and Election Management System workstations. NO ISSUES
Results:
Pro V&V and SLI Compliance found no evidence of internet connectivity.
Dumb question but how did they do that without the routers and the root code er, passwords??
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aggiehawg said:

From same link.

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These tests looked for evidence of the tabulations system ability to connect to the internet and if the tabulators and/or system was transmitting information outside the closed air gapped system within the county tabulation center or while being delivered, returned, or used at a vote center.
  • SLI reviewed system registry, system files, installed programs, download history, audit logs, USB/Ethernet history logs. NO ISSUES
  • Pro V&V ran server commands to test for connectivity. NO ISSUES
  • Both firms physically inspected and traced the wiring of the air-gapped system between the server, tabulators, adjudication stations, and Election Management System workstations. NO ISSUES
Results:
Pro V&V and SLI Compliance found no evidence of internet connectivity.
Dumb question but how did they do that without the routers and the root code er, passwords??
I'm still confused as to why/how personal data including SSN's are on routers.
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aggiehawg said:

From same link.

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These tests looked for evidence of the tabulations system ability to connect to the internet and if the tabulators and/or system was transmitting information outside the closed air gapped system within the county tabulation center or while being delivered, returned, or used at a vote center.
  • SLI reviewed system registry, system files, installed programs, download history, audit logs, USB/Ethernet history logs. NO ISSUES
  • Pro V&V ran server commands to test for connectivity. NO ISSUES
  • Both firms physically inspected and traced the wiring of the air-gapped system between the server, tabulators, adjudication stations, and Election Management System workstations. NO ISSUES
Results:
Pro V&V and SLI Compliance found no evidence of internet connectivity.
Dumb question but how did they do that without the routers and the root code er, passwords??
That doesn't matter because shut up. The votes were counted and certified and you are a white supremacist terrorist for asking all these questions.

/Democrats
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aggiehawg said:

From same link.

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These tests looked for evidence of the tabulations system ability to connect to the internet and if the tabulators and/or system was transmitting information outside the closed air gapped system within the county tabulation center or while being delivered, returned, or used at a vote center.
  • SLI reviewed system registry, system files, installed programs, download history, audit logs, USB/Ethernet history logs. NO ISSUES
  • Pro V&V ran server commands to test for connectivity. NO ISSUES
  • Both firms physically inspected and traced the wiring of the air-gapped system between the server, tabulators, adjudication stations, and Election Management System workstations. NO ISSUES
Results:
Pro V&V and SLI Compliance found no evidence of internet connectivity.
Dumb question but how did they do that without the routers and the root code er, passwords??
so Maricopa County already hired auditors themselves, and they already issued a report on the tabulation systems' hardware and software. Yet the State Senate hired a different auditing firm to audit Maricopa County and their scope is going to be limited because the county claims that they don't have admin passwords for the systems?

I'd say either the first audit report is BS and they couldn't really attest to certain things about the systems, or the County needs to "find" the passwords and give them to CyberNinjas.
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so Maricopa County already hired auditors themselves, and they already issued a report on the tabulation systems' hardware and software. Yet the State Senate hired a different auditing firm to audit Maricopa County and their scope is going to be limited because the county claims that they don't have admin passwords for the systems?

I'd say either the first audit report is BS and they couldn't really attest to certain things about the systems, or the County needs to "find" the passwords and give them to CyberNinjas.
The "auditors" Maricopa County hired worked for Dominion in previously certifying their systems. So in effect they were asked to check their own work. The entire election industry is very small and tightly interrelated. If they reported honestly, they lose a big contract and their very existence would be jeopardized. They have a conflict of interest.

That's not how auditing is supposed to work. When I found financial irregularities in my business, I didn't go to my standing corporate accountant, I hired someone from outside. What's the point asking the guy who missed the double and triple paychecks being written to one employee, to go back and do the work he already screwed up again?
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aezmvp said:

aggiehawg said:

From same link.

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These tests looked for evidence of the tabulations system ability to connect to the internet and if the tabulators and/or system was transmitting information outside the closed air gapped system within the county tabulation center or while being delivered, returned, or used at a vote center.
  • SLI reviewed system registry, system files, installed programs, download history, audit logs, USB/Ethernet history logs. NO ISSUES
  • Pro V&V ran server commands to test for connectivity. NO ISSUES
  • Both firms physically inspected and traced the wiring of the air-gapped system between the server, tabulators, adjudication stations, and Election Management System workstations. NO ISSUES
Results:
Pro V&V and SLI Compliance found no evidence of internet connectivity.
Dumb question but how did they do that without the routers and the root code er, passwords??
I'm still confused as to why/how personal data including SSN's are on routers.
And if they were, why were those auditors allowed to see them and not these auditors?
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will25u said:




I really want to know what Soros, pelosi, and the rest of the hitler youth promised Zuck. His 400 million 'donation' complete with NDAs had to have some serious strings attached.
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AG 2000' said:

will25u said:




I really want to know what Soros, pelosi, and the rest of the hitler youth promised Zuck. His 400 million 'donation' complete with NDAs had to have some serious strings attached.


Do the NDAs put Zuckerberg in a bind if he has to sue for breach of string contract for the $400 million, or is it just the Hitler youth, Soros, and Pelosi who are bound not to disclose the association?
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Wisconsin issues with CTCL and Zuckerberg.

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Newly released emails paint a disturbing picture of how the City of Milwaukee ran the 2020 presidential election and again call into question the legality of liberal-leaning interest groups' deep infiltration of municipal procedure.

Under Wisconsin law, "each municipal clerk has charge and supervision of elections and registration in the municipality." This is unambiguous. It is unequivocal. Yet in five of Wisconsin's largest cities, it didn't happen.

In May, Racine Mayor Cory Masona hyper-partisan Democratemailed the mayors of Milwaukee, Madison, Green Bay and Kenosha to hold a virtual meeting in which "the Elections Administration Planning Grant will be discussed." That grant, from Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg's Center for Tech and Civic Life (CTCL) would ostensibly be used to cover the increased costs of running a presidential election during the COVID-19 pandemic.

The mayors met virtually at least four times from May to August to discuss their joint bid for CTCL grant money, but Mason took the lead and even, according to an email from City of Racine attorney Vicky Selkowe, sought to "develop a robust plan for election administration for all five of our communities."

This would, of course, run afoul of state law, as only the municipal clerks or election boards in the other four communities have the authority to plan for and administer elections, but it was clear that these five cities did not have much regard for state law.


Trying to get their own people inserted into election staff.



Actually writing the training instructions for election staff.



Editing the the training instructions

Finally, a clerk wakes up and refuses a request for these outsiders to have direct access to the voter database and the numbers of submitted absentee votes and outstanding absentee votes on a daily basis. This clerk had been providing those reports (why is a great question here) and Spitzer;Rubenstein was overly concerned about her working too hard and wanted a work around so he could do it himself. her reply:



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According to emails, the Racine Common Council approved the first phase of grant money acceptance on behalf of all five communities, which became known as the Wisconsin Five. All five eventually received CTCL grant money, with Milwaukee getting more than $2.1 million.

It quickly became clear that this money came with strings attached.

According to the agreement the City of Milwaukee signed with CTCL, CTCL set the ground rules for how every penny of the money was to be spent, and Milwaukee was not allowed to "reduce or otherwise modify planned municipal spending on 2020 elections." In addition, the city was not permitted to "use any part of [the] grant to give a grant to another organization unless CTCL agrees to the specific sub-recipient in advance, in writing."

CTCL obviously had its own partner groups in mind and didn't want interference with its vision for how the election would be run.
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Woodall-Vogg did, and that same day Meagan Wolfe, WEC's administrator, emailed the municipal clerks in Green Bay, Madison, Racine, and Kenosha (the other members of the Wisconsin Five) to let them know about Spitzer-Rubenstein and the Vote at Home Institute "in case you thought this might be a group you are interested in working with or learning about."

Green Bay's clerk might not have wanted to, but its mayor, Eric Genrich, certainly didand Spitzer-Rubenstein and his team so thoroughly (and wholly unlawfully) took over Green Bay's election planning that the clerk, Kris Teske, quit in disgust.

Stunningly, this email chain proves that Wolfe and other members of the Wisconsin Elections Commission staff were aware of Spitzer-Rubenstein's involvement in Milwaukee's election and even wanted him doing more for other cities (notably only heavily Democratic cities).

In the same August 28th email from Spitzer-Rubenstein to Woodall-Vogg in which he requested access to WEC, Spitzer-Rubenstein also asked her to "send the procedures manual and any instructions for ballot reconstruction."
Ballot reconstruction? As materially altering ballots or creating them out of whole cloth?

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Now why would an outside group need access to ballot reconstruction instructions? And, more importantly, why is the leader of said group demanding this from the executive director of the Milwaukee Election Commissionthe one person in the city with the lawful authority to run elections?

Because Clair Woodall-Vogg was not running this election; CTCL and its front man Michael Spitzer-Rubenstein were.
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"Here's what I'll need," Spitzer-Rubenstein wrote to her in late October, "1) Number of ballot preparation teams, 2) Number of returned ballots per ward, 3) Number of outstanding ballots per ward."

Even with this private data sharing that no other organization received (or should have received), Spitzer-Rubenstein still wanted more. He wanted access to the Milwaukee Election Commission's voter database.

"We're hoping there's an easier way to get the data out of WisVote than you having to manually export it every day or week," he wrote. "To that end, we have two questions: 1. Would you or someone else on your team be able to do a screen-share so we can see the process for an export? 2. Do you know if WisVote has an API [application programming interface] or anything similar so that it can connect with other software apps? That would be the holy grail (but I'm not expecting it to be that easy)."
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I don't know about you folks but my blood is boiling right now.
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The daughter of Biden's Chief of Staff works for the Brennan Center and signed the letter asking the DOJ to stop the Maricopa Audit.



Hannah Klain is Ron Klain's daughter.

ETA: Ron Klain ran the Gore recount effort in 2000.
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richardag said:

aggiehawg said:

Just an update on the number of states who have decreed no more Zuckerberg Bucks in their elections.

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Florida became the fifth state in 2021 to enact a law prohibiting the private funding of election administration on Thursday aft.......

My snarking comment

Only 52 more states to go.

I remember


YIKES!!!
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Yes, it gets my blood boiling. Even worse is to consider there will be no justice or retribution that will come from this.
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aggiehawg said:

aezmvp said:

aggiehawg said:

From same link.

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These tests looked for evidence of the tabulations system ability to connect to the internet and if the tabulators and/or system was transmitting information outside the closed air gapped system within the county tabulation center or while being delivered, returned, or used at a vote center.
  • SLI reviewed system registry, system files, installed programs, download history, audit logs, USB/Ethernet history logs. NO ISSUES
  • Pro V&V ran server commands to test for connectivity. NO ISSUES
  • Both firms physically inspected and traced the wiring of the air-gapped system between the server, tabulators, adjudication stations, and Election Management System workstations. NO ISSUES
Results:
Pro V&V and SLI Compliance found no evidence of internet connectivity.
Dumb question but how did they do that without the routers and the root code er, passwords??
I'm still confused as to why/how personal data including SSN's are on routers.
And if they were, why were those auditors allowed to see them and not these auditors?
The inconsistencies point directly at the total unabashed effort to hide any corrupt activities. This should lead to obstruction of justice lawsuits.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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aggiehawg said:

Wisconsin issues with CTCL and Zuckerberg.
.......Link

I don't know about you folks but my blood is boiling right now.
The corrupt SOBs need extended jail time. Hope the legal system is up to their responsibilities, we'll see.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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It's beyond ridiculous that the major news organizations are not all over this.
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