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Thinice said:

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I don't think it's really the issue of matching the signatures.

Do you really think they took the time to create an envelope for every fake ballot that's been run through the post office?

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That's why a count of envelopes compared to votes counted may shed some light on fraud.

If more mail in ballots are counted than the number of envelopes you now have fraud.

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Agree, think their excuse is "they've been separated so we can't audit" but the envelopes are required to be kept as part of the record, would think this would be case of all states with "mail-in ballot spikes".

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I remember reading a claim that some election official in some other state...maybe WI or PA had ordered them to ditch the envelopes after they were initially "verified". That makes it easy to claim "We can't determine which of the 150,000 votes were fraudulent and which were actual voters when somebody points out they reported more mail in ballots than were sent to voters.

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You cannot disenfranchise 4,785,000 voters so that you don't disenfranchise 150,000 voters (4.935 MM total votes in GA for example). You have to protect the larger amount from incompetence / fraud of the subset.

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We're altering the NFL, NBA, and damn near everything else to appease 13% of the population. Why would this be different?

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Ag87H2O said:

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richardag said:

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Thinice said:

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I don't think it's really the issue of matching the signatures.

Do you really think they took the time to create an envelope for every fake ballot that's been run through the post office?

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That's why a count of envelopes compared to votes counted may shed some light on fraud.

If more mail in ballots are counted than the number of envelopes you now have fraud.

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Absolutely this. It would be a simple, sure way to make sure every mail-in ballot was legit. And if they didn't save the envelopes then all the mail-ins should be declared invalid.

If the election workers were incompetent - or crooked - enough not to save the evidence then it's on them, not those that are seeking to ensure a fair election.

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MooreTrucker said:

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You cannot disenfranchise 4,785,000 voters so that you don't disenfranchise 150,000 voters (4.935 MM total votes in GA for example). You have to protect the larger amount from incompetence / fraud of the subset.

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We're altering the NFL, NBA, and damn near everything else to appease 13% of the population. Why would this be different?

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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MooreTrucker said:

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You cannot disenfranchise 4,785,000 voters so that you don't disenfranchise 150,000 voters (4.935 MM total votes in GA for example). You have to protect the larger amount from incompetence / fraud of the subset.

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We're altering the NFL, NBA, and damn near everything else to appease 13% of the population. Why would this be different?

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Social discussion vs legal/constitutional discussion

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MooreTrucker said:

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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MooreTrucker said:

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You cannot disenfranchise 4,785,000 voters so that you don't disenfranchise 150,000 voters (4.935 MM total votes in GA for example). You have to protect the larger amount from incompetence / fraud of the subset.

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We're altering the NFL, NBA, and damn near everything else to appease 13% of the population. Why would this be different?

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Social discussion vs legal/constitutional discussion

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Still screwing the many to appease the few.

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Secolobo said:

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Retweeted by Sidney.

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aggiehawg said:

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Looking very verification right now but hmm if true.

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Lorne Malvo said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Looking very verification right now but hmm if true.

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LMAO. Hiding? What kind of soft ass snowflake **** is this???

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aggiehawg said:

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Looking very verification right now but hmm if true.

https://i.postimg.cc/26nyxtdk/22-D50-C26-19-FE-4309-9996-0-F12-C38-DE140.jpg

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The campaign claims officials on the Wisconsin Election Commission and the City Clerks of Milwaukee and Madison "willfully disregarded the current statute and made conscious efforts to circumvent Wisconsin election law," resulting in tens of thousands of votes cast "well outside of the bounds of Wisconsin law."

It also asserts the law was violated "on several occasions" through what it described as altered-certification absentee ballot envelopes, a lack of required absentee ballot applications, unlawful claims of indefinite confinement and voting events called "Democracy in the Park."

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txag72 said:
Showing no evidence!!!! If I don't understand it, if I can't see it, it's not evidence!

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Does the world cease to exist everytime you blink? What is your take on wind?
At least you're in the running for dumbest post ever. Congrats?

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txag72 said:

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txag72 said:
Showing no evidence!!!! If I don't understand it, if I can't see it, it's not evidence!

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Does the world cease to exist everytime you blink? What is your take on wind?
At least you're in the running for dumbest post ever. Congrats?

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Coming from a lib, that's quite an honor.

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aggiehawg said:

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Link

New suit in Wisconsin.

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The campaign claims officials on the Wisconsin Election Commission and the City Clerks of Milwaukee and Madison "willfully disregarded the current statute and made conscious efforts to circumvent Wisconsin election law," resulting in tens of thousands of votes cast "well outside of the bounds of Wisconsin law."

It also asserts the law was violated "on several occasions" through what it described as altered-certification absentee ballot envelopes, a lack of required absentee ballot applications, unlawful claims of indefinite confinement and voting events called "Democracy in the Park."

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Absolutely this. It would be a simple, sure way to make sure every mail-in ballot was legit. And if they didn't save the envelopes then all the mail-ins should be declared invalid.

If the election workers were incompetent - or crooked - enough not to save the evidence then it's on them, not those that are seeking to ensure a fair election.

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In MI, if you have more votes than envelopes in a presinct, you randomly remove ballots until you have the same number. I think WI does too.

In GA, if the number of ballots you have exceeds the number of envelopes by more than the margin of victory, the loser can ask for a new election.

The laws are in place to fight fraud, but the election commissions are not following the laws.

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