texagbeliever said:

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FriscoKid said:

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Everything in red arrived before it was actually mailed out!

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I'm working on 4hrs sleep here. This is saying all that nearly all Early Vote (EV) mailers went blue?

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No it is saying all the votes to democrats that are red Arrived before their mail date postage.

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probably just a "glitch".

FriscoKid said:

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Everything in red arrived before it was actually mailed out!

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What's the units on this graph? In other words, how many ballots is that in red roughly?

texagbeliever said:

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This is really simple so try to follow along.

• Conservatives want the constitution to be followed.
• The constitution is the law of the land.
• If the law of the land is not followed then there is no "America"

• Democrats don't want to follow the constitution
• They "REEEE" over any and all attempts to follow said constitution. See border wall, election law, 2nd Amendment, 1st Amendment, 9th & 10th Amendments
• They burn down cities when the law is followed

Now can you spot the differences there?

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I'm conservative and pretty sure I know the constitution better than most.

The only thing touching on a constitutional violation here is the actions of the PA court, and it's going to be dang near impossible to prove whether the ballots which should have been segregated weren't segregated.

Hoping that the SCOTUS is going to weigh in after the fact and overturn the PA election, without hard evidence that the PA court's overreach directly impacted the outcome, is an incredible long shot.

Other than that, I have no idea why you're referencing the constitution.

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txags92 said:

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Whoa! States now picking sides.

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A national revolt of the R state houses?? The Great Presidential Schism of 2020 is unfolding.

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Pretty sure it will mean more than this. The 2nd American Civil War sounds more likely all of the time. This leftist appears to fully understand what is about to happen.

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If by "more likely" you mean an increase from .05% to .1% chance, sure, it's more likely.

Hopefully you also realize that a real Civll War would be horrifically tragic and would also not be between different states but between different areas within states. And even in those areas, there are tons of supporters on both sides.

It's Election Day + 6. Time for grownups to tone down the rhetoric and start acting like grownups.

Doesn't mean you have to believe the election results. Doesn't mean you can't hold out hope for a legal miracle to change the outcome.

But the "Civil War" type crap needs to go away. Venting can only be used as an excuse for employing emotional over rational thinking for so long.

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Have you been asleep for the last 4 years? Where were you in 2016?

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If you want to be the flip side of the Dem coin that's your prerogative. But if you made fun of them for the last four years of "Reee!" then the same logic applies to you if you hold on to it for the next four years.

Regardless, the Civil War talk comes across as just plain unhinged.

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Not to be Captain Obvious here...but what do you think is happening with States choosing sides?

Let's hope this ends peacefully, and that the election is dealt with fairly...

But states are taking sides right now...in the courtroom for now...but they are taking sides...

texagbeliever said:

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The Debt said:

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FriscoKid said:

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Everything in red arrived before it was actually mailed out!

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I'm working on 4hrs sleep here. This is saying all that nearly all Early Vote (EV) mailers went blue?

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No it is saying all the votes to democrats that are red Arrived before their mail date postage.

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Clerical Error.

FriscoKid said:

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Everything in red arrived before it was actually mailed out!

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Gotta love those precognitive mail in ballots

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texagbeliever said:

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The Debt said:

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FriscoKid said:

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Everything in red arrived before it was actually mailed out!

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I'm working on 4hrs sleep here. This is saying all that nearly all Early Vote (EV) mailers went blue?

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No it is saying all the votes to democrats that are red Arrived before their mail date postage.

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probably just a "glitch".

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Lib logic: It is just like a coin flip. 50/50 chance. It doesn't matter if you flip a coin once or a thousand times the chances that it is heads or tails that one time is still 50/50. So this is all perfectly reasonable! Obviously the real odds are .5^100 which is a little smaller than 50/50

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FriscoKid said:

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Everything in red arrived before it was actually mailed out!

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What's the units on this graph? In other words, how many ballots is that in red roughly?

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Don't know but the total ballots was 3 million. They said 3% were questionable based on this graph.

PARTY OF SCIENCE AND DATA! GET IN HERE!

and defend the fact that both science and data prove that this was a complete sham and Venezuela-type election.

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Whoa! States now picking sides.

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A national revolt of the R state houses?? The Great Presidential Schism of 2020 is unfolding.

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Pretty sure it will mean more than this. The 2nd American Civil War sounds more likely all of the time. This leftist appears to fully understand what is about to happen.

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If by "more likely" you mean an increase from .05% to .1% chance, sure, it's more likely.

Hopefully you also realize that a real Civll War would be horrifically tragic and would also not be between different states but between different areas within states. And even in those areas, there are tons of supporters on both sides.

It's Election Day + 6. Time for grownups to tone down the rhetoric and start acting like grownups.

Doesn't mean you have to believe the election results. Doesn't mean you can't hold out hope for a legal miracle to change the outcome.

But the "Civil War" type crap needs to go away. Venting can only be used as an excuse for employing emotional over rational thinking for so long.

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Have you been asleep for the last 4 years? Where were you in 2016?

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If you want to be the flip side of the Dem coin that's your prerogative. But if you made fun of them for the last four years of "Reee!" then the same logic applies to you if you hold on to it for the next four years.

Regardless, the Civil War talk comes across as just plain unhinged.

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Not to be Captain Obvious here...but what do you think is happening with States choosing sides?

Let's hope this ends peacefully, and that the election is dealt with fairly...

But states are taking sides right now...in the courtroom for now...but they are taking sides...

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States join in on legal matters of interest occurring outside their jurisdiction quite frequently. It's not a precursor to civil war.

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In your legal opinion and based on everything you have seen (taking into account what you believe is true or not), what do you think the final outcome will be?

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Honestly, IDK. My gut tells me it could end up in the new House and Senate. There are too many states whose results are still in question, recounts, etc. that I don't believe the courts can act quick enough to settle matter in all of them.

The only comparison we have in modern day is 2000 Florida and that wasn't decided until two days before the electoral college met to vote. And that was just one state. So, no one gets to 270 certified electoral votes?

Goes to the House and Senate and Trump wins under that procedure. Although who becomes VP from the Senate could be iffy because I expect the Georgia runoffs to be just as fricked up as the general election and in court for a long time.

That's how I feel today but I really want to pour over the expected court filings by the Trump campaign and others to be able to assess the chances of success in court. I do expect a tangle of very contradictory court decisions, though.

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FireAg said:

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DTP02 said:

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Whoa! States now picking sides.

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A national revolt of the R state houses?? The Great Presidential Schism of 2020 is unfolding.

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Pretty sure it will mean more than this. The 2nd American Civil War sounds more likely all of the time. This leftist appears to fully understand what is about to happen.

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If by "more likely" you mean an increase from .05% to .1% chance, sure, it's more likely.

Hopefully you also realize that a real Civll War would be horrifically tragic and would also not be between different states but between different areas within states. And even in those areas, there are tons of supporters on both sides.

It's Election Day + 6. Time for grownups to tone down the rhetoric and start acting like grownups.

Doesn't mean you have to believe the election results. Doesn't mean you can't hold out hope for a legal miracle to change the outcome.

But the "Civil War" type crap needs to go away. Venting can only be used as an excuse for employing emotional over rational thinking for so long.

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Have you been asleep for the last 4 years? Where were you in 2016?

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If you want to be the flip side of the Dem coin that's your prerogative. But if you made fun of them for the last four years of "Reee!" then the same logic applies to you if you hold on to it for the next four years.

Regardless, the Civil War talk comes across as just plain unhinged.

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Not to be Captain Obvious here...but what do you think is happening with States choosing sides?

Let's hope this ends peacefully, and that the election is dealt with fairly...

But states are taking sides right now...in the courtroom for now...but they are taking sides...

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States join in on legal matters of interest occurring outside their jurisdiction quite frequently. It's not a precursor to civil war.

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Agree...in most cases...

This is different...

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Nitro Power said:

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In your legal opinion and based on everything you have seen (taking into account what you believe is true or not), what do you think the final outcome will be?

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Honestly, IDK. My gut tells me it could end up in the new House and Senate. There are too many states whose results are still in question, recounts, etc. that I don't believe the courts can act quick enough to settle matter in all of them.

The only comparison we have in modern day is 2000 Florida and that wasn't decided until two days before the electoral college met to vote. And that was just one state. So, no one gets to 270 certified electoral votes?

Goes to the House and Senate and Trump wins under that procedure. Although who becomes VP from the Senate could be iffy because I expect the Georgia runoffs to be just as fricked up as the general election and in court for a long time.

That's how I feel today but I really want to pour over the expected court filings by the Trump campaign and others to be able to assess the chances of success in court. I do expect a tangle of very contradictory court decisions, though.

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If it goes to house/senate and is a 50/50 stalemate. I hope the republicans push to get Tulsi on there. A true olive branch candidate.

What's the latest on James in Michigan? Has he still not conceded either?

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BoerneAg11 said:

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Whoa! States now picking sides.

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A national revolt of the R state houses?? The Great Presidential Schism of 2020 is unfolding.

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Pretty sure it will mean more than this. The 2nd American Civil War sounds more likely all of the time. This leftist appears to fully understand what is about to happen.

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The concession is completely unrelated to anything - it's just tradition. The electoral college votes for biden regardless of Trump's feelings.

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If the election is contested and remains contested, the EC is void.

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Was just discussing this with The Hubs. In my view, due to comingling of ballots it is impossible to identify and throw out illegal and invalid ballots. If the fraud rate can be shown to be large enough to question the vote margins, federal court can issue an injunction preventing a state's or several states) Secretary of State from certifying the election. Having the state Secretary of State do the certification of the vote is the way the state legislatures follow Article II Section One.

But if that cog cannot happen, then when the EC meets does either candidate have 270? If not, then it goes to the new House and the new Senate when seated.

The above is the current remedy that is in place.

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Just for my own understanding, you're saying that a candidate would need to reach 270 without states that are under injunction?

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Stupid video removed.

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Whoa! States now picking sides.

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A national revolt of the R state houses?? The Great Presidential Schism of 2020 is unfolding.

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Pretty sure it will mean more than this. The 2nd American Civil War sounds more likely all of the time. This leftist appears to fully understand what is about to happen.

stupid video removed to save space and sanity

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The concession is completely unrelated to anything - it's just tradition. The electoral college votes for biden regardless of Trump's feelings.

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The moron in the video is delusional and sorely misinformed.

Trump quotes Jonathan Turley and gets twitter slapped.

Rest of the story is HERE

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Nitro Power said:

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In your legal opinion and based on everything you have seen (taking into account what you believe is true or not), what do you think the final outcome will be?

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Honestly, IDK. My gut tells me it could end up in the new House and Senate. There are too many states whose results are still in question, recounts, etc. that I don't believe the courts can act quick enough to settle matter in all of them.

The only comparison we have in modern day is 2000 Florida and that wasn't decided until two days before the electoral college met to vote. And that was just one state. So, no one gets to 270 certified electoral votes?

Goes to the House and Senate and Trump wins under that procedure. Although who becomes VP from the Senate could be iffy because I expect the Georgia runoffs to be just as fricked up as the general election and in court for a long time.

That's how I feel today but I really want to pour over the expected court filings by the Trump campaign and others to be able to assess the chances of success in court. I do expect a tangle of very contradictory court decisions, though.

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This is exactly how its going to go down.

What a freakin' mess. the Dems ought to be hung for foisting this mail in garbage on the country using the pandemic as a backdrop. This gave them the means and opportunity to cheat and sow doubt in the results. Dems shouldn't blame Trump or call him a sore loser for contesting this, they brought it on themselves.

And in the end, the MSM by calling the election for Biden while Trump is contesting is going to be a match on a gasoline lake if Trump is successful in overturning their call.

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Gyles Marrett said:

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FriscoKid said:

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Everything in red arrived before it was actually mailed out!

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What's the units on this graph? In other words, how many ballots is that in red roughly?

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Don't know but the total ballots was 3 million. They said 3% were questionable based on this graph.

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source link please

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texagbeliever said:

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This is really simple so try to follow along.

• Conservatives want the constitution to be followed.
• The constitution is the law of the land.
• If the law of the land is not followed then there is no "America"

• Democrats don't want to follow the constitution
• They "REEEE" over any and all attempts to follow said constitution. See border wall, election law, 2nd Amendment, 1st Amendment, 9th & 10th Amendments
• They burn down cities when the law is followed

Now can you spot the differences there?

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I'm conservative and pretty sure I know the constitution better than most.

The only thing touching on a constitutional violation here is the actions of the PA court, and it's going to be dang near impossible to prove whether the ballots which should have been segregated weren't segregated.

Hoping that the SCOTUS is going to weigh in after the fact and overturn the PA election, without hard evidence that the PA court's overreach directly impacted the outcome, is an incredible long shot.

Other than that, I have no idea why you're referencing the constitution.

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If the outer and inner envelopes were kept, voter fraud can be proven, ineligible votes, just not tied to the actual vote. In that event all mail in votes should be disqualified.

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Resident libs at my office saying "so glad I can just turn off the news and relax now, these next 4 years will finally be back to normal"

....what a shock this will be for them when POTUS pulls out this win

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This is what I'm looking forward to. The hubris right now of Biden "accepting" and beginning to assemble his "task forces" and all that, and the media referring to him as "president-elect" already. Gonna be fun when all that goes away.

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The question is should I try to prepare them for it by dropping some truth bombs? or just let it happen to them on their own?

I would love the lib tears, but I don't want them to be swept up into the "Trump is a dictator stealing this election!" (the irony!!) fake news that could further divide this country.

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You gotta believe the libmedia is testmarketing those ideas as we speak. They know where this is headed and will be ready with cries of "illegitimate" "not my pres" at a level that would make 2016 blush...

Best get ready ourselves in the meantime!

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Nitro Power said:

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In your legal opinion and based on everything you have seen (taking into account what you believe is true or not), what do you think the final outcome will be?

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Honestly, IDK. My gut tells me it could end up in the new House and Senate. There are too many states whose results are still in question, recounts, etc. that I don't believe the courts can act quick enough to settle matter in all of them.

The only comparison we have in modern day is 2000 Florida and that wasn't decided until two days before the electoral college met to vote. And that was just one state. So, no one gets to 270 certified electoral votes?

Goes to the House and Senate and Trump wins under that procedure. Although who becomes VP from the Senate could be iffy because I expect the Georgia runoffs to be just as fricked up as the general election and in court for a long time.

That's how I feel today but I really want to pour over the expected court filings by the Trump campaign and others to be able to assess the chances of success in court. I do expect a tangle of very contradictory court decisions, though.

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This is exactly how its going to go down.

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It would be interesting if Pence presides over a 50-50 senate (assuming worst case in Georgia) but for some reason is conflicted out under some Senate rule that I'm not aware of. Who presides over the Senate in his place?

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Frankly, I'm not seeing a ton of other feasible options, right now. And the alternative, that the courts including the SCOTUS throw up their hands and refuse to rule in any meaningful way and let Biden win is way scarier to me. Particularly so when there is the the House and Senate remedy in place.

With a conservative majority, two of which were trashed during confirmation, I cannot see SCOTUS kicking the can down the road, or throwing their hands up. I know they are supposed to be impartial, but how is that even possible in the cases of Thomas and Kav?

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FriscoKid said:

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Gyles Marrett said:

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FriscoKid said:

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Everything in red arrived before it was actually mailed out!

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What's the units on this graph? In other words, how many ballots is that in red roughly?

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Don't know but the total ballots was 3 million. They said 3% were questionable based on this graph.

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source link please

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https://theredelephants.com/there-is-undeniable-mathematical-evidence-the-election-is-being-stolen/

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Frankly, I'm not seeing a ton of other feasible options, right now. And the alternative, that the courts including the SCOTUS throw up their hands and refuse to rule in any meaningful way and let Biden win is way scarier to me. Particularly so when there is the the House and Senate remedy in place.

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It could happen IF there is very strong evidence of cheating. It's got to be really strong though. There is zero chance of a re-vote and the compromised ballots are already in the system. No idea which one was the fraudulent one so you can't simply remove it. I wonder if you could get a court ruling that x number of ballots were fraudulent and then let the legislatures decide what to do with it. I think it's still a really really long shot, but maybe the Trump team can make a good case.

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Is there a chance we get a convention of states and we can just divorce.

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I approve this message. Republic States capital will be in Houston. President will be Alan West.

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Why Houston? That is a very liberal city nowadays. I say someplace like Lubbock, Midland, or San Angelo perhaps.

I like the overall idea though...

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They will absolutely rule any mail-in ballots received after 8 PM on Election Day are invalid and must be thrown out. That gives Pennsylvania to Trump. That puts Trump at 279.

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This isn't true. I don't think there were that many ballots received late. They were already in the building and just not counted. Anyone have a link saying otherwise?