I bet he made up all his emails right before he went to prison.leftcoastaggie said:barnyard1996 said:
Bevan Cooney sounds Russian to me.
Disgruntled employee more like it.
leftcoastaggie said:barnyard1996 said:
Bevan Cooney sounds Russian to me.
Disgruntled employee more like it.
tens of thousands of emails dude. Tens of thousandsleftcoastaggie said:barnyard1996 said:
Bevan Cooney sounds Russian to me.
Disgruntled employee more like it.
barnyard1996 said:
What is Housley's point here? Im not following.
Cheetah01 said:leftcoastaggie said:barnyard1996 said:
Bevan Cooney sounds Russian to me.
Disgruntled employee more like it.
Noted. I look forward to not hearing from you about any former Trump Administration officials.
barnyard1996 said:
What is Housley's point here? Im not following.
leftcoastaggie said:
Just today, Ellis Wyatt told me that anonymous sources equaled fake news.....Did forum 16's standards suddenly shift?
They've claimed the laptop is fake. Why would you demand return of a laptop this "isn't yours" and "is Russian disinformation"?barnyard1996 said:
What is Housley's point here? Im not following.
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/10/how_the_hobbs_act_could_sink_joe_biden.htmlunmade bed said:Kool said:unmade bed said:AgBQ-00 said:
The Bursima stuff was during his time as VP. Burkina asked directly for a visit from high influence political people to clear up their issues. Then Joe brags about doing it on tape after he did it.
Interfering in a foreign government investigation into one of their nations companies is a bit different than asking for help in investigating corruption of one of ours from the country it happened in
I was asking about the information in the original post in this thread. The Chinese company deal appears to have be discussed in 2017. I'm not sure how anything is illegal there.
Regarding Burisma that is entirely different issue. Yes, Biden bragged about getting Shokin fired, but it's not like Shokin was some great corruption fighter that was single handedly trying to take down Burisma and Biden intervenes and gets him fired. Lots of US allies and the IMG wanted Shokin fired.
It's not that he bragged about getting him fired. It's that he actually bragged about holding up $1 billion in foreign aid UNTIL he was fired. Why this wasn't a bigger story is beyond me. Corruption and misuse of U.S. taxpayer's monies at its finest
I agree, not great foreign policy. I said the same thing when Trump tried to do the same thing to Ukraine, but don't think either was illegal. I said that at the time Trump was impeached for what he did. Nothing illegal, just bad foreign policy.
I'm not defending Biden in any of this. I couldn't care any less about Joe Biden and I hope he loses the election by 90 millions votes. However what I am objecting to about all of this is the implication that the FBI had smoking gun evidence of multiple crimes and did nothing. I've yet to see any evidence of criminal activity.
We know that on the day the Ukrainian GPO raided and seized Zlochevsky's assets, Hunter Biden put in a contact to Tony Blinken at the Department of State.Quote:
In his unanimous opinion, Justice Roberts held that under the Hobbs Act, the prosecution must show two things. "First, the Government must identify a 'question, matter, cause, suit, proceeding or controversy that may at any time be pending or may by law be brought before a public official.'" Well, we have that: the very legitimacy of the entity known as Burisma Holdings in Ukraine was at stake, and whether the company, and its oligarch owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, faced prosecution or sanctions from both the United States and Ukraine. After several years of negotiations, Zlochevksy has returned, still in control, but there is no question that Burisma was very much a "matter" triggering the law.
Second, "the Government must prove that the public official made a decision or took an action on that question, matter, cause, suit, proceeding or controversy, or agreed to do so[.]" The "official act" standard. And by golly, we have old Joe on tape bragging about an official act affecting Burisma namely, the firing of the prosecutor, Mr. Shokin, in exchange for U.S. aid. Old Joe was put in charge of Ukraine foreign aid almost immediately after the Obama State Department putsch in February 2014. All of Biden's meddling in Ukraine affairs by controlling the foreign aid to the Poroshenko regime are clearly "official acts."
titan said:
All those hoping for some kind legal consequences to Biden, et al, are probably waiting in vain.
Will settle for the Dems suffering the kind of wipe-out that knocks the Pelosi-era Democrats out of both houses and re-elects Trump. If the revelations do that, it will suffice. We need the Democrats to reform and abandon enabling collectivism and deviant identity politics.
We need Pelosi gone. Or its four years of nothing accomplished And she is hideously wicked force on the political stage. Obama would have been a better President without her, and 2018 to now could have been different too if the Dem voters had held their newly elected junior reps to their promises.FbgTxAg said:titan said:
All those hoping for some kind legal consequences to Biden, et al, are probably waiting in vain.
Will settle for the Dems suffering the kind of wipe-out that knocks the Pelosi-era Democrats out of both houses and re-elects Trump. If the revelations do that, it will suffice. We need the Democrats to reform and abandon enabling collectivism and deviant identity politics.
Greedy Bastage.
I'll settle for a razor-thin Trump victory and holding the Senate 51-49.
FbgTxAg said:titan said:
All those hoping for some kind legal consequences to Biden, et al, are probably waiting in vain.
Will settle for the Dems suffering the kind of wipe-out that knocks the Pelosi-era Democrats out of both houses and re-elects Trump. If the revelations do that, it will suffice. We need the Democrats to reform and abandon enabling collectivism and deviant identity politics.
Greedy Bastage.
I'll settle for a razor-thin Trump victory and holding the Senate 51-49.
And 2 more SCOTUS appointments.
leftcoastaggie said:
Dropped it in the box today.
unmade bed said:AgBQ-00 said:
The Bursima stuff was during his time as VP. Burkina asked directly for a visit from high influence political people to clear up their issues. Then Joe brags about doing it on tape after he did it.
Interfering in a foreign government investigation into one of their nations companies is a bit different than asking for help in investigating corruption of one of ours from the country it happened in
I was asking about the information in the original post in this thread. The Chinese company deal appears to have be discussed in 2017. I'm not sure how anything is illegal there.
Regarding Burisma that is entirely different issue. Yes, Biden bragged about getting Shokin fired, but it's not like Shokin was some great corruption fighter that was single handedly trying to take down Burisma and Biden intervenes and gets him fired. Lots of US allies and the IMF wanted Shokin fired.
https://www.ft.com/content/e1454ace-e61b-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc
geoag58 said:leftcoastaggie said:
Dropped it in the box today.
No worries, you can get your ballot back, democrats are famous for breaking into ballot boxes!
titan said:We need Pelosi gone. Or its four years of nothing accomplished And she is hideously wicked force on the political stage. Obama would have been a better President without her, and 2018 to now could have been different too if the Dem voters had held their newly elected junior reps to their promises.FbgTxAg said:titan said:
All those hoping for some kind legal consequences to Biden, et al, are probably waiting in vain.
Will settle for the Dems suffering the kind of wipe-out that knocks the Pelosi-era Democrats out of both houses and re-elects Trump. If the revelations do that, it will suffice. We need the Democrats to reform and abandon enabling collectivism and deviant identity politics.
Greedy Bastage.
I'll settle for a razor-thin Trump victory and holding the Senate 51-49.
leftcoastaggie said:geoag58 said:leftcoastaggie said:
Dropped it in the box today.
No worries, you can get your ballot back, democrats are famous for breaking into ballot boxes!
It's cool. I have a couple more I haven't filled out yet.
Aggie12B said:
I'll go ahead and post this now to be ahead of the game: "joe biden did NOT kill himself."
lead said:
So it's not on NYT, CNN, Drudge. Fox News jump the gun?
Its not optimism. What was trying to say is have given up hope of actual justice--- but a massive electorate defeat sweeping them from power in all three, an Americna Brexit-like vote against its Left, would be sufficient compensation even if all skate for the actual crimes.FbgTxAg said:titan said:We need Pelosi gone. Or its four years of nothing accomplished And she is hideously wicked force on the political stage. Obama would have been a better President without her, and 2018 to now could have been different too if the Dem voters had held their newly elected junior reps to their promises.FbgTxAg said:titan said:
All those hoping for some kind legal consequences to Biden, et al, are probably waiting in vain.
Will settle for the Dems suffering the kind of wipe-out that knocks the Pelosi-era Democrats out of both houses and re-elects Trump. If the revelations do that, it will suffice. We need the Democrats to reform and abandon enabling collectivism and deviant identity politics.
Greedy Bastage.
I'll settle for a razor-thin Trump victory and holding the Senate 51-49.
Rudy could unveil a video off of that laptop that showed Whoopi Goldberg, Joe Biden, both Cuomos, and Nancy Pelosi having a drunken sex party in Moscow with russian orphans and unborn puppies and Biden would still get 65 million votes, Pelosi re-elected in a landslide, and Whoopi would be the next DNC chairman.
I love your optimism, but we're fooked. It's just a matter of when.
Managed Expectations.Quote:
Greedy Bastage.
I'll settle for a razor-thin Trump victory and holding the Senate 51-49.
txag72 said:Managed Expectations.Quote:
Greedy Bastage.
I'll settle for a razor-thin Trump victory and holding the Senate 51-49.
leftcoastaggie said:Rockdoc said:leftcoastaggie said:Rockdoc said:leftcoastaggie said:Rockdoc said:leftcoastaggie said:
Just today, Ellis Wyatt told me that anonymous sources equaled fake news.....Did forum 16's standards suddenly shift?
What's anonymous about it. It's being corroborated by a recipient of the emails.
Who's the recipient?
One of Hunters business associates
Yeah what's his name?
I don't have his name. If you choose not to believe, that's fine with me.
So you're saying it's anonymous....got it.