SpaceX and other space news updates

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Hearing good things about tomorrow...was kinda hoping it would get pushed to Thursday so I could be there but I'm getting the feeling there will be plenty of launches to come soon, SN11 looks nearly complete in the high bay.
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nortex97
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Great, great article;

https://issues.org/spacex-nasa-launch-crewed-mission-to-iss/

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Around 2006, NASA decided to experiment with a new contracting approach in which it specified the solution it was seeking without specifying the details of the system to be used"Get xkilograms of cargo to the Space Station," for instance. The approach, where the selected contractors received payment only on completion of verifiable milestones, worked: two companies, SpaceX and Orbital Sciences Corporation (now Northrup Grumman Innovation Systems) developed rockets and capsules to carry cargo to the ISS, with the government paying well under a billion dollarsa bargain, comparativelyfor the development.

Today, NASA owns no vehicles to transport cargo to the ISS, and instead pays these companies a per-use transportation fee. The experiment was so successful that NASA has added a third company to the list of providers, and NASA studies note that SpaceX can carry one kilogram of cargo to the ISS at a third the cost of the Space Shuttle.

Buoyed by the cargo program's emerging success, in 2010, as the Space Shuttle was entering its final retirement phase, NASA initiated a similar program to launch astronauts. The agency inked agreements in 2014 with two companies, Boeing and SpaceX, to develop crew transportation to and from the ISS. The SpaceX launch last week was a successful milestone of NASA's Commercial Crew Program. Once Boeing completes work on its Starliner capsule (the status of which is currently unclear, with an uncrewed test flight failing to reach the ISS in December 2019), NASA's program would result in two options for transporting astronauts to the ISS, at a total cost to the government of about $5 billion to $6 billion. According to NASA officials, had they used the traditional development approach, the agency would have spent $20 billion to $30 billion more than this amount. Going forward, NASA will own no systems to go to the ISS and instead will pay SpaceX about $55 million per astronaut per trip.

SpaceX intends to take not only NASA astronauts to the ISS but also private spaceflight participants, leveraging government investment to commercialize its now-proven launch services.

Returning to the question I posed initially: what does this milestone say about the future of spaceflight, especially given the growing venture capital investments in space start-ups, which at least until COVID-19 hit were at record high levelsalmost $6 billion in 2019 alone? I posit that the commercial cargo and crew programs are signs of two major changes in the space sector. First, these programs' successes showed that "solutions-oriented" contracting approaches can reduce the total cost of development: with a goal-oriented contract rather than a cost-plus contract, the incentive is to engineer systems that are cheaper to produce and operate in order to generate greater profits. This approach also reduces cost to government as the private sector takes over some of the burden of developing, maintaining, and operating space infrastructure: the government need not own any space technology systems and can simply purchase tickets to a destination, just like it does for earthbound civil servant business travel.

Second, and more important, because private entities have made investments in and now own space systems and the underlying technologies and intellectual property, they are motivated to find customers other than the government, as well as to develop new and lower-cost applications of these products and services. Traditional aerospace contractors typically do not have such inducements: they are incentivized to fulfill government contracts, and not even on time or on budget, since in many cases there is no major penalty for missing deadlines. Ultimately, these new incentives within the private sector will likely push the boundary of the art-of-the-possible in space beyond what government managers can envision, and the footprint of space activities will grow apace.

There is some evidence that as a result of privately led activities, the US space footprint is indeed expanding, and not just in the launch sector. The "smallsat" revolution (and the use of small satellites for previously unheard-of applications such as near real-time simultaneous imaging of the entire Earth) was one the government missed; it was instead initiated and led by private entities, including universities. Examples of private-sector ingenuity abound. Some private entities, no doubt leveraging government investment, are developing affordable on-orbit services for satellites, such as the ability to inspect them if they stop functioning, repair them if they break, or refuel them if they run out of propellant. A private company recently attached what is essentially a power pack to a communications satellite nearing the end of its life, giving the satellite new life and its owner the potential to make hundreds of millions of dollars in additional revenue.
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When will Elon Musk get a well deserved ride into space?
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TexAgs91 said:

When will Elon Musk get a well deserved ride into space?


Last time he was asked, he said he would like to, but is concerned that an accident would end up causing his dream to not see completion.

I expect, now that crew dragon is becoming an established thing, he may very well go for a ride.
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Think he said he'd go for a ride with the billionaire funding the trip around the moon. I'm confident in SpaceX, but I want him to stay on Earth up until the point I'd be comfortable seating in that seat myself and we're a long long way away from that.
PJYoung
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FAA still hadn't approved SN9 hop as of 530p

nortex97
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Apparently it was approved just after midnight. Evacuation notification sent to residents after;

Centerpole90
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Calm winds & Severe Clear.

Light the fuse....
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Time? Live countdown
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Centerpole90 said:

Calm winds & Severe Clear.

Light the fuse....


"Push...de button "
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Everyday Astronaut is going live at 11. No idea what time the launch will be though.

nortex97
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I read it is supposed to be 'this afternoon' which I interpret as around 2-6pm CST. They're rarely early in a given window, it seems.

Starlink 18 is for Wednesday (tomorrow) now.

https://www.rocketlaunch.live/launch/starlink-18

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It looks like they're going to be moving the big blue crane before launch, and the roads haven't been closed yet, so I'd say it'll easily be after noon before launch (if it does today).
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Two times today, already, they have run some kind of a hose or cable up to just below the nose cone

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stolen from the reddit guys... Multistream views to watch the spacex activities. I hadn't seen these before. You can still control the individual feeds. pretty cool to see all the streams together.

https://multistream.co/p/6Y4WaPY2ZcU/Starship_SN9_-_2021-02-02

https://multistream.co/p/9-l9D0NR5Ck/Starship_SN9_High_Altitude_Flight_Test_10Km_Sentinel_Stream
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There goes the crane

Off to the west at a blistering 5pm
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I'm hearing closer to 1-2pm timeframe, pad should clear by 11am
Centerpole90
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Someone around Rio Hondo burned a field of sugar cane post-harvest residue earlier and jacked up my viz, but it's drifting off to the west now. Should be back to unlimited before launch.
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Brad06ag said:

stolen from the reddit guys... Multistream views to watch the spacex activities. I hadn't seen these before. You can still control the individual feeds. pretty cool to see all the streams together.

https://multistream.co/p/6Y4WaPY2ZcU/Starship_SN9_-_2021-02-02

https://multistream.co/p/9-l9D0NR5Ck/Starship_SN9_High_Altitude_Flight_Test_10Km_Sentinel_Stream

Thank you for venturing into the reddit cesspool so the rest of us don't have to!
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EDIT: we have tank farm venting! Looking like 2pm
Centerpole90
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I'm going to head to the binocs in few.
Malachi Constant
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Range violation again?????
Mathguy64
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The hell? They had another range violation? Someone in a car???
nortex97
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Yet another 'range violation.' Sheriff looking for...someone.

Gonna go with 3-6 pm as the window that it could happen today now.

Ugh.
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PJYoung
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Prop loading = launch 25-30 minutes from now.
Mathguy64
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Getting some venting from under Eileen's skirt
PJYoung
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15ish minutes
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Centerpole90
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Tri-vent. I'm out.
nortex97
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Looks like around 2:25 CST.
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Decay
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Liftoff!
V8Aggie
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Liftoff!!
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