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Private land not Elon.




A towering 50-foot bronze statue of the Greek Titan Prometheus is rising near the entrance to SpaceX's Starbase in Texas, according to announcements from the Paris-based classical foundry Atelier Missor and reports circulating widely this weekend.

Crews are assembling the monumental figure on private land just outside the facility's city limits, with sections cast in France and shipped across the Atlantic. The foundry has stated that the statue will stand fully erect "in a few days," torch raised high.

The project is independent. It was not commissioned by SpaceX or Elon Musk. Atelier Missor secured landowner consent and local permits for what it describes as its own tribute to technological progress and humanity's multiplanetary ambitions.

The bronze figure is expected to cost around $1 million. Larger titanium versions remain part of the workshop's longer-term vision for monumental classical sculpture across the West.

In Greek mythology, Prometheus is the Titan who defied Zeus by stealing fire from the gods and giving it to humanity. That act enabled technology, craft, and civilization itself.

For his rebellion, Zeus bound him and condemned him to eternal torment, with an eagle devouring his liver each day only for it to regenerate. The myth has long symbolized the costly gift of knowledge, the refusal to accept imposed limits, and the drive to advance human capability.

Atelier Missor has framed its work in exactly those terms. "In a few days, Prometheus will stand 50 ft tall, holding high the torch of the West," the foundry posted as assembly advanced near Starbase.

Earlier statements underscored the broader goal: "We want to build larger and larger Prometheus statues everywhere across the West." The workshop has described the Starbase placement as a gift offered in gratitude for efforts pushing humanity forward, linking the ancient fire-bringer to the rockets now preparing to leave Earth.

The bronze statue arrives after years of planning. In 2025, founders of the atelier outlined ambitions for a far larger titanium Prometheus at the same site, presenting a maquette in California and arguing that classical monumental art could help renew civilizational confidence.

Titanium was chosen for its strength, resistance to corrosion, and durability. The current 50-foot bronze version marks the first realized step of that vision, positioned where Starship vehicles stand against the South Texas sky.

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The Sam Houston statue is 67 feet.

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Long march 7A apparently exploded on launch this morning.
txags92
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Jock 07 said:

Long march 7A apparently exploded on launch this morning.

Explosion is at the 49:30 mark of the youtube video linked in that X post.

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The initial post by Elon is interesting, (you should listen), but this comment is hilarious.

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fullback44 said:

Malachi Constant said:

WTF is the bureau of oceanic energy management?


This department needs to go to the President of Argentina an let him purge it


It's the department that regulates offshore oil/gas development in federal waters (lease sales, permitting, etc). Been around forever as Minerals Management Service (MMS) but, as mentioned above, changed names in 2010 after Deepwater Horizon/BP Macondo. They split MMS into BOEM (overseeing offshore energy development) and BSEE (bureau of safety and environmental enforcement). The idea being to separate resources management from safety oversight.
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Yeah, that is what I think is called 'suboptimal.'
txags92
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nortex97 said:

Yeah, that is what I think is called 'suboptimal.'


So that is what it looks like when a rocket fails structurally near MaxQ? That thing just folded in half. Pretty amazing that the rest of it stayed together as long as it did with the amount of yaw induced.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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will25u said:



Like much of what NASA does, their link doesn't appear to be working...
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I know no human life was lost, but I can't imagine audibly applauding at that near the end.

Don't get me wrong, I'd think it'd look like the world's greatest fireworks display to see in person, but it's a bit embarrassing if you step back and think.
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Scott Manley's analysis...

He thinks the FTS was activated after "the front fell off" because when he slowed it down you can see the first stage continuting to push forward after the vehicle broke at the interstage between the 2nd and 3rd stage during Max Q.

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Jack Ruby said:

I know no human life was lost, but I can't imagine audibly applauding at that near the end.

Don't get me wrong, I'd think it'd look like the world's greatest fireworks display to see in person, but it's a bit embarrassing if you step back and think.

Sounded to me like there were children present and the applauding was done for them.
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Jack Ruby said:

I know no human life was lost, but I can't imagine audibly applauding at that near the end.

Don't get me wrong, I'd think it'd look like the world's greatest fireworks display to see in person, but it's a bit embarrassing if you step back and think.


SpaceX employees go nuts when they have a RUD. Why not as long as no one was hurt?
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The Sun said:

Jack Ruby said:

I know no human life was lost, but I can't imagine audibly applauding at that near the end.

Don't get me wrong, I'd think it'd look like the world's greatest fireworks display to see in person, but it's a bit embarrassing if you step back and think.


SpaceX employees go nuts when they have a RUD. Why not as long as no one was hurt?


One's expected and the other isn't?
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TexAgs91 said:

The Sun said:

Jack Ruby said:

I know no human life was lost, but I can't imagine audibly applauding at that near the end.

Don't get me wrong, I'd think it'd look like the world's greatest fireworks display to see in person, but it's a bit embarrassing if you step back and think.


SpaceX employees go nuts when they have a RUD. Why not as long as no one was hurt?


One's expected and the other isn't?

Yea not to mention one has a really expensive piece of hardware up top and the other doesn't.
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The Sun said:

Jack Ruby said:

I know no human life was lost, but I can't imagine audibly applauding at that near the end.

Don't get me wrong, I'd think it'd look like the world's greatest fireworks display to see in person, but it's a bit embarrassing if you step back and think.


SpaceX employees go nuts when they have a RUD. Why not as long as no one was hurt?

Do they though? I have seen them cheer wildly when the ship or booster blow up after landing on the water, but that is not really a RUD. It is the expected outcome after a successful maneuver. I may just not have been paying attention, but have they really cheered a mid-flight RUD like that?
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Not for non-test vehicles. Falcon has only had 3 in flight failures of any kind (1 ascent RUD, one secondary payload failed to reach orbit, one primary payload failed to reach orbit) and one pad failure.

Falcon 9 will break their own record for consecutive mission successes on August 20th. 325 between Amos-6 pad failure and Starlink 9-3 orbital failure. September 1, 2016 to July 12, 2024 and now July 12, 2024 to present.


Orbital failure for secondary mission:



The lone in flight explosion:



Static fire failure:



Orbital failure for Starlink mission:

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OnlyForNow
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It's China, those rocket scientists are probably already dead.

Wrong emoji
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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OnlyForNow said:

It's China, those rocket scientists are probably already dead.

Wrong emoji

Is it?
will25u
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Cool.space things.

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will25u said:

Cool.space things.



Mars doesn't have circular moons? That looks like a Nerd candy piece my kid eats.
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Mars has two random small asteroids as moons.
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Mathguy64 said:

Mars has two random small asteroids as moons.

Is this the one Bruce Willis blew up?
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Celestial objects need a certain threshold of mass before gravity turns them into a sphere. That's why Haumea is so unusual. It has the mass but spins fast enough to elongate. Yet not fast enough to come apart.
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FarmerJohn said:

Celestial objects need a certain threshold of mass before gravity turns them into a sphere. That's why Haumea is so unusual. It has the mass but spins fast enough to elongate. Yet not fast enough to come apart.



I'll see myself out...
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Our moon is very much an outlier oddity when it comes to moons. It has been said that there is more science to suggest that our moon should not exist than there is that it should exist as it does. It is a really odd moon.
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AgBQ-00 said:

Our moon is very much an outlier oddity when it comes to moons. It has been said that there is more science to suggest that our moon should not exist than there is that it should exist as it does. It is a really odd moon.

Isn't that because our moon was created by an impact and not by gravitational capture?

The moon is a result of an impact between the Earth and what could/should, or you could argue WAS, a planet destroying impact. The entire planet was essentially flash melted and the debris that was flung off accreted to form the moon as we know it today. If I recall the Earth also briefly had rings for a few million years following this impact. Or that might have been another interaction event with a celestial body.

I think traditionally moons are formed by capture. So the planet in it's orbit "uses" it's gravity to clear all of the remnants from it's orbital path and coalesce them into the planet. If the body is big enough it can settle into an orbit around the body instead.

But the moon's orbit is not completely stable and (again if i recall top of my head) it moves ~1cm away from the earth annually.
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They don't know. That is the leading theory now, but the structure of the moon and the layering of the types of material is "wrong" for that to be conclusive.
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AgBQ-00 said:

They don't know. That is the leading theory now, but the structure of the moon and the layering of the types of material is "wrong" for that to be conclusive.

I thought the structure of the moon and layering of types of material checks out. The moon has a very small iron/nickel core for its size which goes along with the impact theory in which the moon would be made mostly of lighter minerals and not as much of the heavier metals like iron and nickel.
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FarmerJohn
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I don't know if it is settled where our moon came from but I would say there is a consensus that it is made of debris from another body crashing into the Earth. Two features of the moon are more significant for scientific discovery.

1. The moon being tidally locked. While so far not terribly consequential, this will make constant communication with a moon base much easier for a base on the near side. It also shields the far side from radio interference from Earth, making deep space telescopes more attractive and viable. Tidal locking seems to be more the norm than the exception.

2. What is not normal and is a bit miraculous is that the moon is the perfect size to block the sun but not the corona during an eclipse. The two most significant discoveries due to that was the discovery of helium and proving the Theory of General Relativity.
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