nortex97 said:
Very few at the time thought SpaceX would deliver on the F9 program. It came within a single failure of collapsing, of course, so it was not an unreasonable belief that it 'wouldn't work.' But some see it as a rivalry which, in reality for human spaceflight they had to partner with Nasa initially to learn the 'rules' essentially.
There is still great skepticism within certain corners of Nasa as well that the starship can ever become human rated, as there is no intent to provide an abort mechanism for the people on it.
Doesn't that mean NASA will not allow it to launch people? I've never looked into it, but not having NASA required criteria when the goal is to get people to Mars seems odd.
Edit: Went through Grok to get more info.
So Starship doesn't have the Launch Escape System, but NASA doesn't require specifically LES, just the ability to abort and obviously reduce risk with testing redundancy, etc. The stated capacity for starship is around 100 people, so LES would not work.
Starship does have multiple abort capabilities, including what we saw when not enough engines lit, starship separation if the booster fails, etc. To think about it another way, LES was designed to meet the abort requirement, not a requirement itself.