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txags92 said:

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nortex97 said:

Late June or early/mid July are the goals I have seen mooted. Mishap investigation I am glad to see actually, as it would be good to learn of remediations/investigation to causes of the 'bad flip' etc, but I think it will proceed in short order.

I'm more concerned about pad 1 progress over the next few weeks, tbf. That needs to be ready before they try to catch a booster/upper stage, imho.


Waiting to get pad 1 ready will take too long. I thought SpaceX had a sense of urgency in getting starship operational.

They can still launch from pad 2 to keep working through their operational flights to work up to orbital flights. But trying a catch and potentially damaging pad 2 before pad 1 is ready later this year means potentially losing the ability to launch anything until they fix whatever they break. Smarter to wait for the catch attempts until pad 1 is available.

Yes, I get it. Remember they did do some catches on Pad 1 when there was no Pad 2.

If they're going to wait for Pad 1, I hope they move on to orbit and orbital refueling asap and then just continue with the precision ocean landings. I don't want to see Starship fail to be ready for HLS flights.
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txags92 said:

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Fun stuff.

Is that truck on the left a 1995 Toyota Hilux Diesel?

I mean, Toyota does have a quasi-similar (though enormous) design.
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txags92 said:

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When will the tower at KSC be able to catch? Could they catch the ship over there after an orbit and just have to barge it back to Boca Chica?

That might not be logistically possible... Mainly at Boca

I think the construction is mostly done on the tower at 39A. Probably stil a couple of months from being ready to use it, but it will probably be ready before Pad 1 at Starbase. Not sure the status of the rest of the 39A facilities such as propellant tank farms and deluge water tanks.


I was primarily thinking from a catch standpoint. Booster could RTLS at Boca Chica and ship could deorbit to KSC 39A.

It looks like they can ship and receive via the port of Brownsville
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nortex97 said:

txags92 said:

nortex97 said:


Fun stuff.

Is that truck on the left a 1995 Toyota Hilux Diesel?

I mean, Toyota does have a quasi-similar (though enormous) design.


Yeah, I was talking about the thing that looks like a little airport utility cart/truck at the far left. I assume if the guys on Top Gear couldn't kill it, it would work fine on the moon.

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Kenneth_2003 said:

txags92 said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

When will the tower at KSC be able to catch? Could they catch the ship over there after an orbit and just have to barge it back to Boca Chica?

That might not be logistically possible... Mainly at Boca

I think the construction is mostly done on the tower at 39A. Probably stil a couple of months from being ready to use it, but it will probably be ready before Pad 1 at Starbase. Not sure the status of the rest of the 39A facilities such as propellant tank farms and deluge water tanks.


I was primarily thinking from a catch standpoint. Booster could RTLS at Boca Chica and ship could deorbit to KSC 39A.

It looks like they can ship and receive via the port of Brownsville

Is that really something they want to do right now though? If they are trying to up the flight cadence, catching at the Cape and then having to ship it back to Starbase to launch again seems cludgy. I also suspect that NASA and FAA are going to want them to prove out the catch capability at Starbase before they clear them to attempt it coming back in over Florida.
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txags92 said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

txags92 said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

When will the tower at KSC be able to catch? Could they catch the ship over there after an orbit and just have to barge it back to Boca Chica?

That might not be logistically possible... Mainly at Boca

I think the construction is mostly done on the tower at 39A. Probably stil a couple of months from being ready to use it, but it will probably be ready before Pad 1 at Starbase. Not sure the status of the rest of the 39A facilities such as propellant tank farms and deluge water tanks.


I was primarily thinking from a catch standpoint. Booster could RTLS at Boca Chica and ship could deorbit to KSC 39A.

It looks like they can ship and receive via the port of Brownsville

Is that really something they want to do right now though? If they are trying to up the flight cadence, catching at the Cape and then having to ship it back to Starbase to launch again seems cludgy. I also suspect that NASA and FAA are going to want them to prove out the catch capability at Starbase before they clear them to attempt it coming back in over Florida.


Absolutely non -optimal. Vehicle failure in reentry would be over Texas for a Florida catch, think Challenger... Just bouncing an idea around while construction advances on all of their facilities.

Do we know if any of the work at 39A or even retrofits on Pad 1 were waiting for confirmation or full launch on Pad2 ?
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rednecked said:

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Fun stuff.

Will Ed Baldwin command the first mission? Let's get the whole band back to together! Gordo and Danielle!



not to derail the thread but man talk about a show that jumped the shark this season
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Jock 07 said:

rednecked said:

nortex97 said:


Fun stuff.

Will Ed Baldwin command the first mission? Let's get the whole band back to together! Gordo and Danielle!



not to derail the thread but man talk about a show that jumped the shark this season

yup. they could have rolled into a massively cool show in the Expanse vein but instead decided to go the hot garbage route. I've lost all interest and haven't watched it for several weeks.


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About that FAA thing....



oooff. That is a big fireball. From the NSF stream.

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Ouch. Wonder how much of LC36 just got blown up with it.
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Mathguy64 said:

Ouch. Wonder how much of LC36 just got blown up with it.


No kidding. Yikes
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That'll leave a mark
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I think Blue Origin just lost their lead on going to the moon.
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Double decker cheeseburgers!
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I'm not very familiar with their launch complex facilities, but I'd bet they just lost the place they'd have gone from.

One of the two adjacent towers appears not to be there after the fireball cleared. I'm surprised to see the spot lights are still operating after. Gonna be a major rebuild is my guess as that was much more energy than the Starship 36 RUD last June at Massey's.
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Jock 07 said:

That'll leave a mark


Wonder what that felt like for surrounding areas?
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Breaking News: Rockets are hard. Space is hard.
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Interesting that it happened right at the top of the hour. I'd assume it was some scheduled test gone wrong?
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It was a static fire.
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Columbia, not challenger.
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Someone spilled a glass of water on a keyboard and is gonna need a new job tomorrow
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It was a static fire attempt. More of a kinetic fire.

NSF stream said they had reset from an earlier issue.
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normaleagle05 said:

It was a static fire attempt. More of a kinetic fire.

NSF stream said they had reset from an earlier issue.

Gotcha. Maybe they should've mashed the reset button a little harder.
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Large plume of smoke coming from the vicinity of the adjacent hangar that has their only other booster in it. Not clear if smoke is the hangar burning or something external on the other side.
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It sounds like the Amazon Leo payload that would've gone up on this booster is in the hanger as well.
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Don't let this person say anything nice about you:
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Aggie95 said:

Jock 07 said:

That'll leave a mark


Wonder what that felt like for surrounding areas?


Not sure how far away my friends buddy is but this is what he said

Bloody hell I did. About 30 minutes ago. It was super wired. Was walking in kitchen and heard a weird loud noise but not like an explosion. More like an implosion. Felt like my house was being sucked into something for just a few seconds. Made me shudder though. It it on tv or anything????
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In today's episode of Elon Musk is a time traveler....

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WOW
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No no no … Bud Light.
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Geez, looks like a nuke (or at least one of Christopher Nolan's nukes)
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