lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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Seeing reports that the death count is now above 50 with 2700+ injured.

I would not be surprised if the death count hits 250.

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I'd suspect many more than that. Much like after the towers fell, the environmental air quality and other issues will sicken many many more.

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With reports of nitric acid and a decent amount of people living around the area I think 250 is conservative, plus at least 10 fire fighters who turned into pink mist. I would not doubt if in the end you get to 500+.

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The Lebanese Red Cross initial estimate is 2500

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Dead or injured?

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Dead. Just saw an update that said 2,200 casualties so far, number expected to be above 10,000.

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Casualties can mean dead AND injured

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Uh, no ***** Thanks?

With over 10k casualties, 2500 dead is the estimate.

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Your post wasn't clear...

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Eliminatus said:

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aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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Sad. I wonder how many fire fighters were able to make it to the scene between explosions.

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Early on The Hubs said he could see water streams and knew firefighters were the scene before the explosion.

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That's awful. And I think we all know the answer to what happened to those firefighters.

I've been on scene where a much less powerful explosion happened. I just thought there were two casualties. Turns out there was four. We never found the other two. They were standing next to the explosion.

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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Seeing reports that the death count is now above 50 with 2700+ injured.

I would not be surprised if the death count hits 250.

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I'd suspect many more than that. Much like after the towers fell, the environmental air quality and other issues will sicken many many more.

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With reports of nitric acid and a decent amount of people living around the area I think 250 is conservative, plus at least 10 fire fighters who turned into pink mist. I would not doubt if in the end you get to 500+.

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The Lebanese Red Cross initial estimate is 2500

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Dead or injured?

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Dead. Just saw an update that said 2,200 casualties so far, number expected to be above 10,000.

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Casualties can mean dead AND injured

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Uh, no ***** Thanks?

With over 10k casualties, 2500 dead is the estimate.

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Your post wasn't clear...

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First post said 2500 was the estimate. Someone asked for clarification, dead or injured. I followed it up with what you quoted.

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SirDippinDots said:

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Let me be the first to blame the Orange Man.

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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Seeing reports that the death count is now above 50 with 2700+ injured.

I would not be surprised if the death count hits 250.

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I'd suspect many more than that. Much like after the towers fell, the environmental air quality and other issues will sicken many many more.

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With reports of nitric acid and a decent amount of people living around the area I think 250 is conservative, plus at least 10 fire fighters who turned into pink mist. I would not doubt if in the end you get to 500+.

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The Lebanese Red Cross initial estimate is 2500

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Dead or injured?

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Dead. Just saw an update that said 2,200 casualties so far, number expected to be above 10,000.

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Reginald Cousins said:

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SirDippinDots said:

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Let me be the first to blame the Orange Man.

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Too late, you didn't read the whole thread. You're at best third.

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SirLurksALot said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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Seeing reports that the death count is now above 50 with 2700+ injured.

I would not be surprised if the death count hits 250.

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I'd suspect many more than that. Much like after the towers fell, the environmental air quality and other issues will sicken many many more.

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With reports of nitric acid and a decent amount of people living around the area I think 250 is conservative, plus at least 10 fire fighters who turned into pink mist. I would not doubt if in the end you get to 500+.

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The Lebanese Red Cross initial estimate is 2500

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Dead or injured?

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Dead. Just saw an update that said 2,200 casualties so far, number expected to be above 10,000.

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Casualties can mean dead AND injured

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Uh, no ***** Thanks?

With over 10k casualties, 2500 dead is the estimate.

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Your post wasn't clear...

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First post said 2500 was the estimate. Someone asked for clarification, dead or injured. I followed it up with what you quoted.

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This is the most recent estimate I've found. Where are you getting your numbers?

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schmellba99 said:

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Zemira said:

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So I don't know much about explosions but to casual observer it looks like their were 3 explosions. First looks like fireworks were somehow ignited and caused a relatively small explosion. This caused a chain reaction of some kind of chemicals to explode (weird maroon cloud), and then immediately after the chemical explosion the grain silos explode (big white cloud).

Seems likely to be an accident.

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From what we can see in the video:

1. Fire
2. Smaller "explosions" as a result of the fire, likely from fireworks going off
3. Large explosion that leveled the port. Could have been secondary, could have been primary - we don't know because of when the video starts
4. White cloud is the pressure wave from the explosion compressing the water vapor in the atmostphere before it vaporizes due to heat and dissipates due to the concussive force of the air expanding from the explosion. But it is not a "third explosion"
5. Whole area is FUBAR'd.

If none of you have ever seen fireworks, it would be a good explanation of the maroon cloud. Lots of various chemicals in fireworks in powderized form that cause the various colors you see when a firework explodes. I would expect a mass of them together would form something like what we saw as there wan't complete burning and everything essentially got mixed together to form the maroon color.

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American Hardwood said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Zemira said:

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So I don't know much about explosions but to casual observer it looks like their were 3 explosions. First looks like fireworks were somehow ignited and caused a relatively small explosion. This caused a chain reaction of some kind of chemicals to explode (weird maroon cloud), and then immediately after the chemical explosion the grain silos explode (big white cloud).

Seems likely to be an accident.

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From what we can see in the video:

1. Fire
2. Smaller "explosions" as a result of the fire, likely from fireworks going off
3. Large explosion that leveled the port. Could have been secondary, could have been primary - we don't know because of when the video starts
4. White cloud is the pressure wave from the explosion compressing the water vapor in the atmostphere before it vaporizes due to heat and dissipates due to the concussive force of the air expanding from the explosion. But it is not a "third explosion"
5. Whole area is FUBAR'd.

If none of you have ever seen fireworks, it would be a good explanation of the maroon cloud. Lots of various chemicals in fireworks in powderized form that cause the various colors you see when a firework explodes. I would expect a mass of them together would form something like what we saw as there wan't complete burning and everything essentially got mixed together to form the maroon color.

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#2. Those small pops around that warehouse look much more consistent to me with electrical gear shorting out than fireworks.

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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SirLurksALot said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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Seeing reports that the death count is now above 50 with 2700+ injured.

I would not be surprised if the death count hits 250.

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I'd suspect many more than that. Much like after the towers fell, the environmental air quality and other issues will sicken many many more.

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With reports of nitric acid and a decent amount of people living around the area I think 250 is conservative, plus at least 10 fire fighters who turned into pink mist. I would not doubt if in the end you get to 500+.

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The Lebanese Red Cross initial estimate is 2500

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Dead or injured?

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Dead. Just saw an update that said 2,200 casualties so far, number expected to be above 10,000.

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Casualties can mean dead AND injured

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Uh, no ***** Thanks?

With over 10k casualties, 2500 dead is the estimate.

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Your post wasn't clear...

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First post said 2500 was the estimate. Someone asked for clarification, dead or injured. I followed it up with what you quoted.

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This is the most recent estimate I've found. Where are you getting your numbers?

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#2. Those small pops around that warehouse look much more consistent to me with electrical gear shorting out than fireworks.

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SirLurksALot said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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SirLurksALot said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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Seeing reports that the death count is now above 50 with 2700+ injured.

I would not be surprised if the death count hits 250.

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I'd suspect many more than that. Much like after the towers fell, the environmental air quality and other issues will sicken many many more.

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With reports of nitric acid and a decent amount of people living around the area I think 250 is conservative, plus at least 10 fire fighters who turned into pink mist. I would not doubt if in the end you get to 500+.

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The Lebanese Red Cross initial estimate is 2500

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Dead or injured?

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Dead. Just saw an update that said 2,200 casualties so far, number expected to be above 10,000.

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Casualties can mean dead AND injured

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Uh, no ***** Thanks?

With over 10k casualties, 2500 dead is the estimate.

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Your post wasn't clear...

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First post said 2500 was the estimate. Someone asked for clarification, dead or injured. I followed it up with what you quoted.

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This is the most recent estimate I've found. Where are you getting your numbers?

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That doesn't say anything about deaths, just total casualties.

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American Hardwood said:

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schmellba99 said:

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Zemira said:

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So I don't know much about explosions but to casual observer it looks like their were 3 explosions. First looks like fireworks were somehow ignited and caused a relatively small explosion. This caused a chain reaction of some kind of chemicals to explode (weird maroon cloud), and then immediately after the chemical explosion the grain silos explode (big white cloud).

Seems likely to be an accident.

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From what we can see in the video:

1. Fire
2. Smaller "explosions" as a result of the fire, likely from fireworks going off
3. Large explosion that leveled the port. Could have been secondary, could have been primary - we don't know because of when the video starts
4. White cloud is the pressure wave from the explosion compressing the water vapor in the atmostphere before it vaporizes due to heat and dissipates due to the concussive force of the air expanding from the explosion. But it is not a "third explosion"
5. Whole area is FUBAR'd.

If none of you have ever seen fireworks, it would be a good explanation of the maroon cloud. Lots of various chemicals in fireworks in powderized form that cause the various colors you see when a firework explodes. I would expect a mass of them together would form something like what we saw as there wan't complete burning and everything essentially got mixed together to form the maroon color.

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#2. Those small pops around that warehouse look much more consistent to me with electrical gear shorting out than fireworks.

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SirLurksALot said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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SirLurksALot said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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Seeing reports that the death count is now above 50 with 2700+ injured.

I would not be surprised if the death count hits 250.

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I'd suspect many more than that. Much like after the towers fell, the environmental air quality and other issues will sicken many many more.

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With reports of nitric acid and a decent amount of people living around the area I think 250 is conservative, plus at least 10 fire fighters who turned into pink mist. I would not doubt if in the end you get to 500+.

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The Lebanese Red Cross initial estimate is 2500

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Dead or injured?

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Dead. Just saw an update that said 2,200 casualties so far, number expected to be above 10,000.

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Casualties can mean dead AND injured

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Uh, no ***** Thanks?

With over 10k casualties, 2500 dead is the estimate.

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Your post wasn't clear...

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First post said 2500 was the estimate. Someone asked for clarification, dead or injured. I followed it up with what you quoted.

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This is the most recent estimate I've found. Where are you getting your numbers?

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That doesn't say anything about deaths, just total casualties.

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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Seeing reports that the death count is now above 50 with 2700+ injured.

I would not be surprised if the death count hits 250.

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I'd suspect many more than that. Much like after the towers fell, the environmental air quality and other issues will sicken many many more.

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With reports of nitric acid and a decent amount of people living around the area I think 250 is conservative, plus at least 10 fire fighters who turned into pink mist. I would not doubt if in the end you get to 500+.

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The Lebanese Red Cross initial estimate is 2500

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Dead or injured?

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Dead. Just saw an update that said 2,200 casualties so far, number expected to be above 10,000.

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Casualties can mean dead AND injured

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Uh, no ***** Thanks?

With over 10k casualties, 2500 dead is the estimate.

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GAC06 said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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lunchbox said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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P.U.T.U said:

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aggiehawg said:

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lunchbox said:

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Seeing reports that the death count is now above 50 with 2700+ injured.

I would not be surprised if the death count hits 250.

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I'd suspect many more than that. Much like after the towers fell, the environmental air quality and other issues will sicken many many more.

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With reports of nitric acid and a decent amount of people living around the area I think 250 is conservative, plus at least 10 fire fighters who turned into pink mist. I would not doubt if in the end you get to 500+.

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The Lebanese Red Cross initial estimate is 2500

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Dead or injured?

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Dead. Just saw an update that said 2,200 casualties so far, number expected to be above 10,000.

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Casualties can mean dead AND injured

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Uh, no ***** Thanks?

With over 10k casualties, 2500 dead is the estimate.

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Texas City was probably bigger and killed less than 600. The vast majority of casualties here are probably from broken glass

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lunchbox said:

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lunchbox said:

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Translation: Diab: I will not rest until we find the person responsible for what happened to hold him accountable and inflict the most severe punishment on him.

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aggiehawg said:

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Texas City was probably bigger and killed less than 600. The vast majority of casualties here are probably from broken glass.

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You can't compare how many died in 1947 in Texas City (some relatives of mine, in fact) to a densely populated city like Beirut.

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GAC06 said:

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Looks like I may be wrong too now that I see 2700 tons of ammonium nitrate. Texas City was 2200

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Cromagnum said:

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lunchbox said:

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That building coming unglued in the 7-9 second frames!

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Whomever filmed that **** had to have gotten hurt pretty damn bad.

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Cromagnum said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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lunchbox said:

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That building coming unglued in the 7-9 second frames!

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Whomever filmed that **** had to have gotten hurt pretty damn bad.

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