I'm surprised it isn't filed already.
•TEXAS A&M OFFERING $1200 REWARD to find who is responsible for leaving racially-charged messages of hate on the car windshield of a Texas A&M student outside an apartment building.
— Rusty Surette (@KBTXRusty) June 25, 2020
More details here -> https://t.co/QX6PYggxsN https://t.co/lq478qgiot
Sooooo who gets that $1,200 that was promised by @TAMU over that witch hunt??
— isaih smollett (@IsaihSmollett) July 10, 2020
Do you think there's a sovereign immunity defense?RiskManager93 said:
I'm a lawyer, though not licensed in Texas. There's a case here albeit it with very little payout in the end.
But discovery would be glorious.
Wasn't it Young that offered it? As an indivdual I don't think he can claim sovereign immunity._mpaul said:Do you think there's a sovereign immunity defense?RiskManager93 said:
I'm a lawyer, though not licensed in Texas. There's a case here albeit it with very little payout in the end.
But discovery would be glorious.
BenFiasco14 said:
Cannot believe A&M will do nothing about this
This has already been done by several individualsIrish 2.0 said:Wasn't it Young that offered it? As an indivdual I don't think he can claim sovereign immunity._mpaul said:Do you think there's a sovereign immunity defense?RiskManager93 said:
I'm a lawyer, though not licensed in Texas. There's a case here albeit it with very little payout in the end.
But discovery would be glorious.
A FOIA on all emails pertaining to this would be wonderful too. Can anyone do a FOIA request for all emails containing @tamu.edu that were sent to Young and his response?
AmenJarrin' Jay said:BenFiasco14 said:
Cannot believe A&M will do nothing about this
Cannot believe he wasn't expelled from school, as he should have been. Not suspended, expelled.
What'd they find?TheTodd said:This has already been done by several individualsIrish 2.0 said:Wasn't it Young that offered it? As an indivdual I don't think he can claim sovereign immunity._mpaul said:Do you think there's a sovereign immunity defense?RiskManager93 said:
I'm a lawyer, though not licensed in Texas. There's a case here albeit it with very little payout in the end.
But discovery would be glorious.
A FOIA on all emails pertaining to this would be wonderful too. Can anyone do a FOIA request for all emails containing @tamu.edu that were sent to Young and his response?
They got rid of Cheesecake Girl who wrote the notes. Admin was probably scared of the media backlash for expelling a black (possibly LGTBQ+) student when he/she/zee/zee/it was never charged with anything. The police/DA determined he/she/zee/zee/it did not file the report, so no charges.Jarrin' Jay said:BenFiasco14 said:
Cannot believe A&M will do nothing about this
Cannot believe he wasn't expelled from school, as he should have been. Not suspended, expelled.
TJaggie14 said:They got rid of Cheesecake Girl who wrote the notes. Admin was probably scared of the media backlash for expelling a black (possibly LGTBQ+) student when he/she/zee/zee/it was never charged with anything. The police/DA determined he/she/zee/zee/it did not file the report, so no charges.Jarrin' Jay said:BenFiasco14 said:
Cannot believe A&M will do nothing about this
Cannot believe he wasn't expelled from school, as he should have been. Not suspended, expelled.
Admin did the risk calculations and figured it was better for the university to sell out their principles and upset a a few TexAgs user than expel him/her/them/zer/zee/it.
hedge said:
Did she even go to school here ?
Yes, there is picture of her celebrating her first day at A&M. Here is the best part, she was happy and celebrating in front of Sullyhedge said:
Did she even go to school here ?
Edit: The first post on this thread explains everything clearly.Burdizzo said:TJaggie14 said:They got rid of Cheesecake Girl who wrote the notes. Admin was probably scared of the media backlash for expelling a black (possibly LGTBQ+) student when he/she/zee/zee/it was never charged with anything. The police/DA determined he/she/zee/zee/it did not file the report, so no charges.Jarrin' Jay said:BenFiasco14 said:
Cannot believe A&M will do nothing about this
Cannot believe he wasn't expelled from school, as he should have been. Not suspended, expelled.
Admin did the risk calculations and figured it was better for the university to sell out their principles and upset a a few TexAgs user than expel him/her/them/zer/zee/it.
From my understanding of details, Cheesecake was not a student at the time of the incident, although she let everyone think she was to the point that she even had a meeting with the administration. When the admin found out they had called in a non-student who they thought was a student there was a certain amount of embarrassment that was quickly swept under the rug.
There was so much mishandling of this by the university it isn't even funny.
TJaggie14 said:Edit: The first post on this thread explains everything clearly.Burdizzo said:TJaggie14 said:They got rid of Cheesecake Girl who wrote the notes. Admin was probably scared of the media backlash for expelling a black (possibly LGTBQ+) student when he/she/zee/zee/it was never charged with anything. The police/DA determined he/she/zee/zee/it did not file the report, so no charges.Jarrin' Jay said:BenFiasco14 said:
Cannot believe A&M will do nothing about this
Cannot believe he wasn't expelled from school, as he should have been. Not suspended, expelled.
Admin did the risk calculations and figured it was better for the university to sell out their principles and upset a a few TexAgs user than expel him/her/them/zer/zee/it.
From my understanding of details, Cheesecake was not a student at the time of the incident, although she let everyone think she was to the point that she even had a meeting with the administration. When the admin found out they had called in a non-student who they thought was a student there was a certain amount of embarrassment that was quickly swept under the rug.
There was so much mishandling of this by the university it isn't even funny.
How everything ties together so far... | TexAgs
It's a breach of contract, not a tort claim, so sovereign immunity wouldn't apply. Contractors are allowed to sue the state for breach of contract -- but there are catches. The state gets to dictate when it can be sued and it usually requires a written contract to include a dispute resolution clause, and there are proper notice requirements. An individual has to give the state notice of intent to sue within 180 days of the alleged breach and you aren't allowed to sue for fees incurred in enforcing the contract._mpaul said:Do you think there's a sovereign immunity defense?RiskManager93 said:
I'm a lawyer, though not licensed in Texas. There's a case here albeit it with very little payout in the end.
But discovery would be glorious.
I thought she graduated, but not sure Just that she wasn't scared Sully would oppress her on her first day of school. That came later once she properly brainwashedhedge said:
So she dropped out
RiskManager93 said:It's a breach of contract, not a tort claim, so sovereign immunity wouldn't apply. Contractors are allowed to sue the state for breach of contract -- but there are catches. The state gets to dictate when it can be sued and it usually requires a written contract to include a dispute resolution clause, and there are proper notice requirements. An individual has to give the state notice of intent to sue within 180 days of the alleged breach and you aren't allowed to sue for fees incurred in enforcing the contract._mpaul said:Do you think there's a sovereign immunity defense?RiskManager93 said:
I'm a lawyer, though not licensed in Texas. There's a case here albeit it with very little payout in the end.
But discovery would be glorious.
It's pretty clear this is an oral contract. Offer, Acceptance, Consideration, Competency and Intent. And oral contracts are valid in Texas.
What would be FUNNY would be if the individual who met the terms of President Young's offer sent the office a letter telling him he intended to sue, then simply file in Small Claims Court. Force the university to respond and make them go through the motions of offering the qualified reasons why it can't be sued (i.e., not an enforceable contract, etc.). Force their hand on the issue -- and then MAKE IT PUBLIC.
My guess is they would simply pay the $1200 rather than incur the legal fees defending itself.
I would recommend having an attorney handle it for the plaintiff in this instance, though. You can sue anonymously under certain circumstances including when there is a reasonable fear of retaliation. I think claiming you're in fear the university would deny admission to your children or something benign would work. Tell the attorney they can have half the money and all the attention from the press.
Again, though, it's Small Claims and such a de minimus amount, I bet they would pay.
Would be funny as hell...
Burdizzo said:
IANAL.
I think it would hard to prove standing in this case. It really would go nowhere over $1200 and an event that most of the public have already forgotten about.
The best option is to threaten to sue and then issue a press release on the facts. Hope that a news outlet will pick it up.
RiskManager93 said:Burdizzo said:
IANAL.
I think it would hard to prove standing in this case. It really would go nowhere over $1200 and an event that most of the public have already forgotten about.
The best option is to threaten to sue and then issue a press release on the facts. Hope that a news outlet will pick it up.
The only condition for the reward was the identity of the person who placed the "racist" letter on the windshield. That's it. The poster "Look It Up" is the one who did all of the work and cooperated with the police, and he or she absolutely has standing. All s/he has to do is have the investigating officer who reviewed the video testify as to the identity of responsible party. Case closed. Terms of the contract are met.
Whether the public has forgotten about it or not is irrelevant.
The press won't care about a threat to sue. Now, get yourself a judgment or have the university go on record as to why they aren't fulfilling their end of the deal and you've got yourself a Tucker-worthy segment.
RiskManager93 said:
It was a public offering -- $1200 for anyone who identifies the person who left the note. Whoever turned over the video to police has standing. I forget the names of everyone involved...