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Racist "windshield notes" confirmed a hoax
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Well yeah, haven't you heard of the Declaration of Independence?? "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Victimhood".DTP02 said:hedge said:
I bet as a kid he was picked on for being nerdy or a girl he liked chose a white guy over him. This probably manifested over time into hatred and anger
Y'all totally misread the main motivator for most of this stuff. Victimhood is popular. Being a victim of racial injustice is a status symbol and gets you attention, especially in the "all-important" world of social media.
It's not nearly as much about hate as it is about insecurity and narcissism. The "hate" just kind of becomes acculturated as a byproduct of the pursuit of victimhood.
twk said:Surprisingly to some folks, leaving racially insensitive notes on someone's car, not in their presence, and without doing damage, probably isn't a criminal offense. Without a threat to violence, damage to property, or the prospect of an immediate breach of the peace, the alleged victim's story, even if true, probably would not have been a crime.Look it up said:After meeting with UPD:aggiehawg said:Let's swing back around to this for a minute. Leaving racist notes on your own windshield is not a crime? Or Martin declined to file a formal police report after consulting with counsel?Quote:
On 7/1/20 at 1030hrs, I called Martin who told me that he was advised by his attorney not to speak to me further.
On 7/1/20, I contacted the County Attorney`s Office to see if this incident was considered a False Report. This case does not meet the elements since Martin did not report a crime.
Leaving racist notes on your own windshield is not a crime?
Freedom of speech, can't be hate crime if you do it to yourself.
Or Martin declined to file a formal police report after consulting with counsel?
Not a good idea to file a police report on yourself.
As per filing charges for false report, not worth the effort to pursue because only harm done was to his own reputation which he did to himself.
If Isaih cooperates and reveals who wrote the notes...it would be a good opportunity for him to make amends.
What happens to Isaih is up to university officials.
As far as who wrote the notes, right now it is hearsay and can't be proven without a witness.
Other things still being investigated, wait for it.
Park West incident is done.
Reward money probably won't be given...
Therefore, his filing a false report regarding this non-crime does not fall within the coverage of the false report statute.
Technically someone leaving notes on a car that then have to be removed by the owner could be considered class C criminal mischief. It would be hard to find a judge that enforces it but there might be one especially with all the woke judges out there these days.
TAMU ‘98 Ole Miss ‘21
Shoe polish or paint might qualify, but I don't see how leaving a note under the windshield wipers would, because it doesn't result in pecuniary loss or substantial inconvenience to the owner. If it did constitute criminal mischief, we could prosecute all those people who leave flyers on vehicles.Quote:
Technically someone leaving notes on a car that then have to be removed by the owner could be considered class C criminal mischief. It would be hard to find a judge that enforces it but there might be one especially with all the woke judges out there these days.
However, even if it constitutes a property offense, that's not going to be the kind of offense that will support a false report charge under 42.06.
...at some point, people need to be taught a lesson to not fake hate crimes. The amount of damage/clean-up it creates is disgusting.
The simple answer is to tie the consequence of faking crime to the same consequences the crime would yield
If you're willing to falsely put someone in jail or pay a fine, you should take that same punishment
If you're willing to falsely put someone in jail or pay a fine, you should take that same punishment
lil99chris said:
...at some point, people need to be taught a lesson to not fake hate crimes. The amount of damage/clean-up it creates is disgusting.
There is that, and then it suddenly casts doubt on other claims of hate crime. It is like the boy that cried wolf. One false claims makes the whole class of claims look dubious.
America would love to get rid of hate and prejudice. Help is find it where it exists. Don't create it where it doesn't exist. That is counterproductive.
twk said:Shoe polish or paint might qualify, but I don't see how leaving a note under the windshield wipers would, because it doesn't result in pecuniary loss or substantial inconvenience to the owner. If it did constitute criminal mischief, we could prosecute all those people who leave flyers on vehicles.Quote:
Technically someone leaving notes on a car that then have to be removed by the owner could be considered class C criminal mischief. It would be hard to find a judge that enforces it but there might be one especially with all the woke judges out there these days.
However, even if it constitutes a property offense, that's not going to be the kind of offense that will support a false report charge under 42.06.
The example we were given for criminal mischief was a mobile home with flamingos around it. Someone comes along and pulls the flamingos out of the ground. The fact that the owner was inconvenienced and has to put them back into the ground makes it class C criminal mischief. With the current political climate, I can see a push to make it a criminal mischief hate crime.
I do not know of any DA in Texas that will prosecute a Filing a false police report offense. Even in cases where people have falsely accused officers of rape. It just does not happen.
TAMU ‘98 Ole Miss ‘21
Yep. Not a lot of point in having the laws on the book if they don't enforce them.Quote:
I do not know of any DA in Texas that will prosecute a Filing a false police report offense. Even in cases where people have falsely accused officers of rape. It just does not happen.
Decay said:
She was NOT mentioned once in the report. She's desperately trying to tie it together but her, her business, etc etc are not named.
There is a "w/f" in there. We speculated it was her, but Texags made it very clear not to use her name or likeness. So we didn't. We just tried to put the evidence together.
She just confirmed 1. that was her in the report and 2. that was her who wrote the note.
She just couldn't effing help herself
Did she? How? Where?
Well I was wrong about the report, she was in there. However playing the victim and all the shenanigans from the hoaxers & their friends probably helped turn the tide against the protests, as well as the behavior of the on-campus protesters.ABATTBQ11 said:Decay said:
She was NOT mentioned once in the report. She's desperately trying to tie it together but her, her business, etc etc are not named.
There is a "w/f" in there. We speculated it was her, but Texags made it very clear not to use her name or likeness. So we didn't. We just tried to put the evidence together.
She just confirmed 1. that was her in the report and 2. that was her who wrote the note.
She just couldn't effing help herself
Did she? How? Where?
If a determined, smart, levelheaded group tried to take down Sully, while also doing all of the underhanded tricks to push the issue, they might have succeeded in taking down the statue.
But a bunch of clueless college kids and an unhinged professor are too volatile, immature, and angry to pull it off. They tried several things to garner support and turn the crowd against Sully but they couldn't beat Texags. Whining on twitter goes hand-in-hand with all of it.
DTP02 said:hedge said:
I bet as a kid he was picked on for being nerdy or a girl he liked chose a white guy over him. This probably manifested over time into hatred and anger
Y'all totally misread the main motivator for most of this stuff. Victimhood is popular. Being a victim of racial injustice is a status symbol and gets you attention, especially in the "all-important" world of social media.
It's not nearly as much about hate as it is about insecurity and narcissism. The "hate" just kind of becomes acculturated as a byproduct of the pursuit of victimhood.
Victimhood is popular. Yes you are right and this was a money grab that didn't gain momentum. She thought her Gofundme acct. would grow to where she would leave school with a big chunk of change. It would be interesting to know if Cheesecake girl has taken any classes from Assistant Prof. Alvie?
Victimhood is an excuse for failure. It goes back to that mantra of racism and low expectations. Of you can blame someone else for your own lack of success, it gets you off the hook for exerting effort.
I work in a STEM field where the laws of science, math, and physics are the foundation for work products that impacts public safety. If you screw up in my field someone might die. The cultural expectation is that you know your fundamentals well enough for people not to die. When I would write performance reviews on poor performing employees, you could always count on about 2/3 of them disputing their bad reviews and blaming it on some sort of discrimination or cultural bias. We would then show them where their mistakes put people at risk.
When you work in a liberal arts science where there is no risk to human life, you can pretty much get away with saying anything you want, and someone will buy your bovine scat.
I work in a STEM field where the laws of science, math, and physics are the foundation for work products that impacts public safety. If you screw up in my field someone might die. The cultural expectation is that you know your fundamentals well enough for people not to die. When I would write performance reviews on poor performing employees, you could always count on about 2/3 of them disputing their bad reviews and blaming it on some sort of discrimination or cultural bias. We would then show them where their mistakes put people at risk.
When you work in a liberal arts science where there is no risk to human life, you can pretty much get away with saying anything you want, and someone will buy your bovine scat.
TAMU is going to recognize the liar as a graduate.
Incredibly shameful.
Incredibly shameful.
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
Pinche Abogado said:
TAMU is going to recognize the liar as a graduate.
Incredibly shameful.
The value of Texas A&M isn't written on paper. It's in the Aggie Network and the common values we aspire to.
She might as well have gone anywhere else - she will never understand the value she missed at A&M.
FrioAg 00 said:Pinche Abogado said:
TAMU is going to recognize the liar as a graduate.
Incredibly shameful.
The value of Texas A&M isn't written on paper. It's in the Aggie Network and the common values we aspire to.
She might as well have gone anywhere else - she will never understand the value she missed at A&M.
He, not she. And, I disagree.
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
Hard to keep straight which of the race baiting liars we are discussing anymore
Well, save we can use names...
Plus, half of them deleted their Twitter accounts in a hit & run.
The slap down shut them down.
Plus, half of them deleted their Twitter accounts in a hit & run.
The slap down shut them down.
My BIL was an air traffic controller, and a damn good one. He was supervising a shift and heard one of the less experienced ATCs give directions to a flight that could have caused a mid-air collision on approach. He took over, corrected the mistake, and then pushed for the young ATC to be removed from duty. He had enough seniority to make it stick, but it led to retirement. You can guess the rest of the story. Protecting employees on the basis of minority class over competency can have life and death consequences. Next time, my BIL won't be around to intervene.Burdizzo said:
Victimhood is an excuse for failure. It goes back to that mantra of racism and low expectations. Of you can blame someone else for your own lack of success, it gets you off the hook for exerting effort.
I work in a STEM field where the laws of science, math, and physics are the foundation for work products that impacts public safety. If you screw up in my field someone might die. The cultural expectation is that you know your fundamentals well enough for people not to die. When I would write performance reviews on poor performing employees, you could always count on about 2/3 of them disputing their bad reviews and blaming it on some sort of discrimination or cultural bias. We would then show them where their mistakes put people at risk.
When you work in a liberal arts science where there is no risk to human life, you can pretty much get away with saying anything you want, and someone will buy your bovine scat.
Wish I could star that post more than once.
while walking a dog, no less.... Makes absolutely no sense. Of course this is a hoax.Rick Burns said:
Who just cruises around town with computer paper and a sharpie looking to write ugly notes? Even the underlying concept of the fake hate crime was clunky af. That's not how racists would work. Makes you wonder if he's ever experienced any actual racism if he cant even create a plausible fake.
Imagine walking a dog and trying to hold 3 pieces of paper at the same time. The pages would be all wrinkled up and creased. The pages on the windshield were pristine.Aston04 said:while walking a dog, no less.... Makes absolutely no sense. Of course this is a hoax.Rick Burns said:
Who just cruises around town with computer paper and a sharpie looking to write ugly notes? Even the underlying concept of the fake hate crime was clunky af. That's not how racists would work. Makes you wonder if he's ever experienced any actual racism if he cant even create a plausible fake.
What needs to happen is a full confession. The guy who put them on the car needs to explain why he did it, and whoever contributed to the hoax needs to step forward as well.
If you take these advocates at their word, actual racist incidents make every minority student on campus feel less safe, less welcome.
So, continuing to pretend this was a real hate crime - by their own arguments - is hurting the A&M minority community. They are now the ones who are inflicting what they claim to be fighting.
So, if these people don't come forward and come clean, it would seem they don't actually believe the ideology they are selling.
Michael Young remains silent and the $1200 "reward" remains unpaid.
Silence = violence, Young.
Silence = violence, Young.
Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.
So what is the hoaxer & his/her compatriots saying this week about this whole deal?
They still claiming the event is real & that the policy are incompetent/covering up the truth?
They still claiming the event is real & that the policy are incompetent/covering up the truth?
Pinche Abogado said:
Michael Young remains silent and the $1200 "reward" remains unpaid.
Silence = violence, Young.
Where's our money young??
CERTIFIED. FUNDS.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Gratuitous bump.
Michael Young, where art thou?
Michael Young, where art thou?
Rather than bumping this thread, has anyone actually reached out to him? *****ing here seems futile
Typical leftist response. Proclaim the lie loudly. The retraction or correction will never come or if it does, it will be buried in small print with little fanfare.
I think continual public shaming is effective to a degree. At the very least, it reminds the good people on this board to question those that would readily lie to further their selfish causes.Charpie said:
Rather than bumping this thread, has anyone actually reached out to him? *****ing here seems futile
He doesn't respond.Charpie said:
Rather than bumping this thread, has anyone actually reached out to him? *****ing here seems futile
And he blocks most people who even have questions about how this occurred
Then shame on
A significant percentage of these incidents end up being hoaxes, but the protected classes are frequently unaware of or distrust the debunking. While they may honestly feel unsafe or discriminated against, that is in large part due to activists committing hate crimes against the people they claim to be trying to help.
When facts become subordinate to a non falsifiable theory, all kinds of nefarious and counterproductive behavior can seem to make sense.
Or to put it more simply:
"A&M must be racist, I keep getting hit in the face!"
When facts become subordinate to a non falsifiable theory, all kinds of nefarious and counterproductive behavior can seem to make sense.
Or to put it more simply:
"A&M must be racist, I keep getting hit in the face!"
BenFiasco14 said:Pinche Abogado said:
Michael Young remains silent and the $1200 "reward" remains unpaid.
Silence = violence, Young.
Where's our money young??
CERTIFIED. FUNDS.
Someone will have to go down for this supposed hate crime. Which one of us whiteys is willing to fall on the sword for the money?BenFiasco14 said:Pinche Abogado said:
Michael Young remains silent and the $1200 "reward" remains unpaid.
Silence = violence, Young.
Where's our money young??
CERTIFIED. FUNDS.
That would be sort of funny. Have someone "turn in" the "racist" and his friend agree to "admit" to the crime. $600 each.The ProFettsor said:Someone will have to go down for this supposed hate crime. Which one of us whiteys is willing to fall on the sword for the money?BenFiasco14 said:Pinche Abogado said:
Michael Young remains silent and the $1200 "reward" remains unpaid.
Silence = violence, Young.
Where's our money young??
CERTIFIED. FUNDS.
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