Genuinely sad that people stoop to this level. Even more sad is that it was so patently obvious because it happens so often

Not likely to get any results from the fingerprints unless anybody involved has been arrested before or they willingly provide fingerprint samples, which we know will never happen now.

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Still awaiting fingerprint analysis on the notes per the police department.

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So that is confirmation that the police actually have them in their possession? Because other reports seem to indicate Martin didn't give them to the police.

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Yes. Elsewhere in the report its stated Martin handed them over "crumpled". The cops bagged them and stored them in an evidence locker. Now they're being analyzed for fingerprints.

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Crumpled? So he can explain his fingerprints all over. And hopefully blur the real author's enough where there can't be verification.

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Fair enough. Martins finger prints are gonna be all over it, because he placed the notes himself, and of course "crumpled them" after. As far as the author is concerned, it's totally possible she wrote them without ever putting a finger on the notes themselves.

However, here's the nugget regarding it:

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On June 26, 2020 at approximately 1100 hours, I treated the notes with ninhydrin to check for fingerprints. There were several useable prints identified on the notes. I contaced Det. [redacted by me] of the findings. At approximately 1130 hours, the notes were returned to storage in the evidence room.

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So we're all the prints martins? Well have to wait and see

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Unless the prints belong to someone already in the system then we'll never know. If they've closed the matter then they aren't going to go around collecting fingerprints from people.

If nothing was reported, why did anyone at the police do any investigating? Is it standard to investigate a small crime that's not reported?

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Not likely to get any results from the fingerprints unless anybody involved has been arrested before or they willingly provide fingerprint samples, which we know will never happen now.

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If not involved, they will.

My fingerprints have been on file since the 80s because I was a lawyer and required to do so.

anyone have any old pie tins lying around....or is going to purchase one...

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If nothing was reported, why did anyone at the police do any investigating? Is it standard to investigate a small crime that's not reported?

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Was addressed earlier in the thread. It appears the police reached out to him about the "notes" especially after Young weighed in

Nothing will be said of this in the press, nor will the school respond in any way.

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This is something Tucker would enjoy sharing on his show... I bet no one can make that info reach him...

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Yep

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That's how you fight back. Make it go public.

ETA: It wasn't me. I'm too busy finishing up The Winds of Winter.

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I do not understand the legal system but to some extent is not the posting of a fake note on social media with the intent to inflame racial tensions and harm former/current students by labeling them as racists not just wrong but defamation/liable? Can a group of current and former students not sue him/her directly, if for no other reason than to expose the lie? You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, so why can you be allowed to defame our former students and university on social media?

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I'm not sure you can libel a group. In Texas, if you want to sue for libel, you have to sue in the county of the Plaintiff's residence, which is opposite the normal rule (Defendant's residence, or location where it occurred). It has to do with injury of an individual's reputation.

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You have to demonstrate harm. Beyond all that, the university is protected. Seeing how they acted post bonfire was enough for me.

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Texas recognizes defamation per se which would not require a showing of damages. i haven't read his statements enough to know if they were said as an opinion or fact. If opinion he can say bad lies all day long.

"Defamation per se occurs when a statement is so obviously detrimental to one's good name that a jury may presume general damages, such as for loss of reputation or for mental anguish. Hancock v. Variyam, 400 S.W.3d 59, 6364 (Tex. 2013). Statements that injure a person in her office, profession, or occupation are typically classified as defamatory per se. Id. at 64. Defamation per quod is simply defamation that is not actionable per se. Lipsky, 460 S.W.3d at 596."

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I do not understand the legal system but to some extent is not the posting of a fake note on social media with the intent to inflame racial tensions and harm former/current students by labeling them as racists not just wrong but defamation/liable? Can a group of current and former students not sue him/her directly, if for no other reason than to expose the lie? You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, so why can you be allowed to defame our former students and university on social media?

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I'm not sure you can libel a group. In Texas, if you want to sue for libel, you have to sue in the county of the Plaintiff's residence, which is opposite the normal rule (Defendant's residence, or location where it occurred). It has to do with injury of an individual's reputation.

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"Under the 'group libel doctrine,' a plaintiff has no cause of action for a defamatory statement directed to some of, but less than, the entire group when there is nothing to single out the plaintiff; consequently, the plaintiff has no cause where the statement does not identify to which members it refers." Levine v. Steve Scharn Custom Homes, Inc., 448 S.W.3d 637, 651 (Tex. App.--Houston [1st Dist.] 2014, no pet.).

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So my wife and I have been discussing the Young bounty money... so did he offer to pay 1200.00 of his own money? or was it coming from a university petty cash fund? donor's may be interested in following the offered money...

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His statement of June 25 said that Texas A&M was offering the reward.

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Imagine if that white dog walker's dog need to take a dump at the wrong time, his life would be ruined.

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When I read that in the report, I immediately had the thought that these morons will point to him on Twitter.

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So my wife and I have been discussing the Young bounty money... so did he offer to pay 1200.00 of his own money? or was it coming from a university petty cash fund? donor's may be interested in following the offered money...

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His statement of June 25 said that Texas A&M was offering the reward.

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so that implies donor money?

I was #3...

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Deats said:

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What we knew from day 1...

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Day 1? Minute 1: "Probably fake" was the first post on that thread. 1 Minute after it was posted by ligma.

See for yourself:

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3120584/1

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LOL happy to say that i was in the 1 min. threshold there. also sad because perhaps it means i have no life.