Shanked Punt said:

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Another restaurant today, and this time, a waitress who was dressed like a slapper, wore a mask, but her nose was completely uncovered. The education on how to do this properly is sorely lacking. We're doomed.

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Sounds like an ignorant Biden voter.

Hey...so.. um said:

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Shanked Punt said:

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The enforcement is still way too lax. I was eating in a restaurant, and a group of people were walking around not wearing a mask. Call me a Karen, but I've reported them to the TABC.

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I was at a restaurant and the cops were walking around without them. I had a conversation with one of them while i wasn't wearing a mask. He said he isnt enforcing that bull*****

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Don't waste your time responding to ze. Ze is an inflamed boil on your ass that's dripping pus down your thigh in dire need of being popped, only to morph into MRSA that will require hospitalization and an antibiotic drip.

Seriously, it's three weeks later and there's been no dramatic drop in COVID cases

When do we admit this mask order is BS and move on?

If this virus doesn't die out, I dont think it ever ends.

Yeah it is total bull**** and the noncompliance is beginning to escalate, of which I approve. In short order, many places will be without masks almost entirely. Most places will see no enforcement of the order.

Cassius said:

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If this virus doesn't die out, I dont think it ever ends.

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It won't ever end. By the time the virus dies out people will be so used to the masks that they'll become a part of western fashion.

I'm still wearing my protest "mask" but you should all accept that we're never getting rid of these things now.

waitwhat? said:

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Cassius said:

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If this virus doesn't die out, I dont think it ever ends.

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It won't ever end. By the time the virus dies out people will be so used to the masks that they'll become a part of western fashion.

I'm still wearing my protest "mask" but you should all accept that we're never getting rid of these things now.

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I disagree

The second Dems get power back, then suddenly COVID will be NBD and time to get the economy back to normal

That's their game

Hold a return to normalcy hostage until they get power again

Maroon Dawn said:

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waitwhat? said:

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Cassius said:

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If this virus doesn't die out, I dont think it ever ends.

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It won't ever end. By the time the virus dies out people will be so used to the masks that they'll become a part of western fashion.

I'm still wearing my protest "mask" but you should all accept that we're never getting rid of these things now.

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I disagree

The second Dems get power back, then suddenly COVID will be NBD and time to get the economy back to normal

That's their game

Hold a return to normalcy hostage until they get power again

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I think you're underestimating the genuine fear that many people have of this virus. There are a lot of people very much voluntarily wearing them, and just because the media stops the propaganda won't stop a large portion of society from wearing the masks to protect against this evil, evil virus.

Not to mention the logic they use, including the maskbros on this forum, can easily be used for any other communicable disease.

Seriously, I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think we're ever getting rid of the masks being normal in public. The mandate? Sure. But businesses will still require them and up to half the population will happily wear them and accuse you of being selfish for not.

EDIT: Genuinely concerns me that you think the only reason people are still wearing masks is because the dems told them to. Masks are even in high support from Republicans.

https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/0d8bdf9be927459d9cb11b9eaef6101f

I watch the testing positivity rate, which I think is some of the CDC "gates" that are out there, but some states still aren't open (NJ maybe?)

But 7/16 we were at the highest positivity, and even now, we are still higher than when the mask mandate was issued. Guess that's good news and bad news. Masks probably aren't working. But this thing is kinda checking itself as it burns through the pop.

The problem with the protests incidents is that you could point to that large crowd and say "see, no sports, no gatherings, no school".

On the other hand, you could point to those large gatherings and say "look, it kinda burned itself out. It will rise and it will ebb. And if you are elderly or otherwise compromised, wear a mask or stay home".

Catch it....99.9% Of the time.... u live

Maroon Dawn said:

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That's their game

Hold a return to normalcy hostage until they get power again

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No, their game is control. So long as the masses remain scared the Dems will accelerate implementing dependency programs.

jefe95 said:

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https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/0d8bdf9be927459d9cb11b9eaef6101f

I watch the testing positivity rate, which I think is some of the CDC "gates" that are out there, but some states still aren't open (NJ maybe?)

But 7/16 we were at the highest positivity, and even now, we are still higher than when the mask mandate was issued. Guess that's good news and bad news. Masks probably aren't working. But this thing is kinda checking itself as it burns through the pop.

The problem with the protests incidents is that you could point to that large crowd and say "see, no sports, no gatherings, no school".

On the other hand, you could point to those large gatherings and say "look, it kinda burned itself out. It will rise and it will ebb. And if you are elderly or otherwise compromised, wear a mask or stay home".

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Positive rate is misleading.

More employers start making confirmed mandatory negative tests a pre-requisite for returning to work. So more people are getting retested after the initial positive test. This increases the number of positive tests. Without knowing if it is new vs retest the statistical data is kind of meaningless.

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jefe95 said:

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https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/0d8bdf9be927459d9cb11b9eaef6101f

I watch the testing positivity rate, which I think is some of the CDC "gates" that are out there, but some states still aren't open (NJ maybe?)

But 7/16 we were at the highest positivity, and even now, we are still higher than when the mask mandate was issued. Guess that's good news and bad news. Masks probably aren't working. But this thing is kinda checking itself as it burns through the pop.

The problem with the protests incidents is that you could point to that large crowd and say "see, no sports, no gatherings, no school".

On the other hand, you could point to those large gatherings and say "look, it kinda burned itself out. It will rise and it will ebb. And if you are elderly or otherwise compromised, wear a mask or stay home".

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Positive rate is misleading.

More employers start making confirmed mandatory negative tests a pre-requisite for returning to work. So more people are getting retested after the initial positive test. This increases the number of positive tests. Without knowing if it is new vs retest the statistical data is kind of meaningless.

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THIS. FFS THIS!! So much data and so little intelligence behind the data.

Maroon Dawn said:

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waitwhat? said:

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Cassius said:

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If this virus doesn't die out, I dont think it ever ends.

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It won't ever end. By the time the virus dies out people will be so used to the masks that they'll become a part of western fashion.

I'm still wearing my protest "mask" but you should all accept that we're never getting rid of these things now.

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I disagree

The second Dems get power back, then suddenly COVID will be NBD and time to get the economy back to normal

That's their game

Hold a return to normalcy hostage until they get power again

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I have no doubt about the Dems plan, but if this thing becomes the norm, doesn't disappear and becomes seasonal, we ain't ever going back to normal. The fear right now is crazy!

Now, if the powers that be start lying about the numbers, which they very well might, that might mitigate the fear. Problem with that is, the conservative states would be marking their numbers independently and it will be difficult for the Dems at the national level to deceive.

If everything I'm hearing about the vaccine is correct, we'll be distributing by October

At that point it's over for the Dems using Corona as an avenue to power

My prediction is still what it was

Trump announces in October vaccine is ready to start distribution with the majority of America vaccinated by Christmas

Dems then realize it's over and go to plan B

Have the Minnesota ANTIFA AG drop all charges against Chauvin and the rest and then let round 2 of the Pre planned riots commence with the full intention of disrupting the election, targeting republican voters and crippling the economy for Trumps 2nd term

You can't get back to work if they burn down your business first

Maroon Dawn said:

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If everything I'm hearing about the vaccine is correct, we'll be distributing by October

At that point it's over for the Dems using Corona as an avenue to power

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Disagree. At first, they'll use a "we need to wait and see just to make sure it worked" mantra to keep restrictions in place. After that excuse wears thin, they'll declare the vaccine ineffective.

Maroon Dawn, do you work for one of the pharma companies involved in distribution? I have a friend who does and he was originally told January, but now he's hearing same thing. Plan on distribution to medical personnel and military as early as mid October. I hope that's true.

I think lots of people will continue wearing masks long after mandates end because it makes them feel superior.

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Cassius said:

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If this virus doesn't die out, I dont think it ever ends.

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It won't ever end. By the time the virus dies out people will be so used to the masks that they'll become a part of western fashion.

I'm still wearing my protest "mask" but you should all accept that we're never getting rid of these things now.

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There will be plenty of us that just eventually say f*** it to the masks when it's clear they aren't needed. I don't see this becoming a norm.

rhoswen said:

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I think lots of people will continue wearing masks long after mandates end because it makes them feel superior.

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And good for them. They'll be idiots at that point.

jefe95 said:

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https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/0d8bdf9be927459d9cb11b9eaef6101f

I watch the testing positivity rate, which I think is some of the CDC "gates" that are out there, but some states still aren't open (NJ maybe?)

But 7/16 we were at the highest positivity, and even now, we are still higher than when the mask mandate was issued. Guess that's good news and bad news. Masks probably aren't working. But this thing is kinda checking itself as it burns through the pop.

The problem with the protests incidents is that you could point to that large crowd and say "see, no sports, no gatherings, no school".

On the other hand, you could point to those large gatherings and say "look, it kinda burned itself out. It will rise and it will ebb. And if you are elderly or otherwise compromised, wear a mask or stay home".

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To me, it couldn't be more clear than when this things starts, short of wuhan style lock downs, it's spreading through the population. Masks likely help a "little", but they aren't going to stop it once it's this rampant. All you have to do is look at other graphs. Hong kong going back up with likely 100% mask compliance. California has mandated masks for months with nothing to really show for it. Here in texas, it doesn't seem to be taking in just yet.

Meanwhile, NYC is trending down because they hit their 20% or so.

Only herd immunity(which luckily seems to be at 20% due to the burnout theory presented by many as opposed to 70-80% for some viruses) or a vaccine will truly control it. So in Texas, we will begin trending down in a month or so once we hit that 20% number, IMHO. Maybe masks can help keep a hospital from being overwhelmed in the meantime, but it isn't going to reduce the spread enough to control it like the burnout theory seems to suggest.