Can the government please force everyone to wear masks

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1872walker said:

jjay91 said:

It is what it is. Listen to the experts. They are experts for a reason. Govt can force citizens to wear a mask even if it's their local leaders. I asked that in my op. It's happening because it saves lives despite what the non experts want you to believe. Embrace it because it's not going away. Otherwise deal with with the consequences.


You mean the experts that say that homemade masks, scarves, bandanas and handkerchiefs are completely useless? These are all things which Harris County are saying are sufficient for the order.
They all will protect to a certain degree. Some very little as you say. It's best to make them with cloth with a high thread count. The higher the better obviously. Throw in a coffee filter even better.
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If you can't get masks, you can't force your citizens to wear homemade crop that will likely exacerbate the issue.
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jjay91 said:

1872walker said:

jjay91 said:

It is what it is. Listen to the experts. They are experts for a reason. Govt can force citizens to wear a mask even if it's their local leaders. I asked that in my op. It's happening because it saves lives despite what the non experts want you to believe. Embrace it because it's not going away. Otherwise deal with with the consequences.


You mean the experts that say that homemade masks, scarves, bandanas and handkerchiefs are completely useless? These are all things which Harris County are saying are sufficient for the order.
They all will protect to a certain degree. Some very little as you say. It's best to make them with cloth with a high thread count. The higher the better obviously. Throw in a coffee filter even better.


No
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96ags said:

Don't forget the refrigerated trucks that our county judge has contracted for that are sitting waiting for all the dead bodies.
I applaud our mitigation and preparation efforts thus far.
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jjay91 said:

I don't care if it is a freaking thong over your face. It is better than nothing. Look at Hong Kong which resembles New York. They all do and their infected numbers are considerably lower. I read an article about someone in China having coronavirus on a bus and everyone got infected except for the 13 or so wearing masks. I'm too tired to post links but if you want to verify the advantages of wearing them, just google it!!!

I get there is not enough so save the surgical and n95 masks for the medical fields.

Mandate that all clothing companies start making the best masks they can for everyone else. This is an untapped market and probably where we are headed anyways. They can make masks of all kinds appealing to the masses, ATM masks, Metallica masks, Justin Beaver masks etc...I don't care what they look like. Just freaking make them. Please, pretty please.
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raiderjay said:

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Thank you Harris county. Better late than never. I applaud you for making a sensible decision that I pushed for 3 weeks ago. More counties will follow suit.

How bout instead of taking the easy way out. You participate with something factual.
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jjay91 said:

BigRobSA said:

jjay91 said:

Thank you Harris county. Better late than never. I applaud you for making a sensible decision that I pushed for 3 weeks ago. More counties will follow suit.


Idiotic move with no teeth or significance

Care to explain with factual information rather than opinion.


This is why, comrade, and also why you are behind. You were too busy flogging your dolphin over the authoritarianism that you missed the rebuttal.



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Urban Ag said:

I live in Williamson Co. We have 600,000 residents. We have about 45 confirmed cases. Out of 600,000. I have three in my zip code. Three. We are over represented in terms of healthcare providers because of the huge retired/replant crowd who go to the doctor all the time. If people were showing symptoms they'd be going to the doctor. They're not. I'm not wearing a mask.
Good for your numbers. You are one of the lucky ones so far.
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I applaud our mitigation and preparation efforts thus far.

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jjay91 said:

1872walker said:

jjay91 said:

It is what it is. Listen to the experts. They are experts for a reason. Govt can force citizens to wear a mask even if it's their local leaders. I asked that in my op. It's happening because it saves lives despite what the non experts want you to believe. Embrace it because it's not going away. Otherwise deal with with the consequences.


You mean the experts that say that homemade masks, scarves, bandanas and handkerchiefs are completely useless? These are all things which Harris County are saying are sufficient for the order.
They all will protect to a certain degree. Some very little as you say. It's best to make them with cloth with a high thread count. The higher the better obviously. Throw in a coffee filter even better.
A much more effective from of government control, intervention, and overreaction would be to force everyone to stop breathing. No masks needed and saves everyone the money an ineffective mask would cost.
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Maroon Dawn said:

JJay

You like facts so much?

Show me one evidence based study that says a civilian cloth mask can stop aerosolized COVID particles

You won't because they don't exist
No Kidding.

This forum is starting to love big government, mandatory masks, and mandatory vaccines from the look of it.

I thought my fellow Aggie we're predominantly God Fearing, Small Government, and Conservatives values.

Sadly most will listen to anything a Republican says.
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jjay91 said:

It is what it is. Listen to the experts. They are experts for a reason. Govt can force citizens to wear a mask even if it's their local leaders. I asked that in my op. It's happening because it saves lives despite what the non experts want you to believe. Embrace it because it's not going away. Otherwise deal with with the consequences.

The same experts that predicted millions of deaths with their models? The same experts that said flatten the curve but now say that isn't good enough? The same experts that said it originally didn't come from a lab? Yeah, these experts don't know a damn thing and neither do you.
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mazag08 said:

jjay91 said:

mazag08 said:

jjay91 said:

Thank you Harris county. Better late than never. I applaud you for making a sensible decision that I pushed for 3 weeks ago. More counties will follow suit.
You can now safely leave your home. You are not in danger anymore.
Continue to practice guidelines set forth by your local leaders
No thanks.

But I will continue to ignore anything that you think is "for the common good"
Well it's not just me, but it's your life and those around you.
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96ags said:

Don't forget the refrigerated trucks that our county judge has contracted for that are sitting waiting for all the dead bodies.
I've got a walk in cooler an hour from here. I'd have done it for half price.
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Maroon Dawn said:

There is ZERO fact based evidence that a civilian cloth mask does anything to stop the spread of COVID19

this is pure fearmongering by liberal cities to try and keep their police state in tact
Liberal cities? Why does this become an issue of liberal vs conservative. I know many conservative Republicans that want to do their part to help save lives.
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Kozmozag said:

Asians in sw houston are smiling, they have always worn mask.
They've been wearing them here in Katy for years. The masks keep you from RUBBING/TOUCHING your face, not from getting the virus. Just wash your hands and avoid touching your face.
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West Point Aggie said:

The police state of SF started today...my ex college roommate and his wife, currently under "house arrest" hate the idea but have no choice but to obey...drones with speakers likely the next step.

Maybe they can set up a snitch line like NYC did
We definitely don't want the military involved. Hopefully it won't have to get to that point.
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jjay91 said:

Maroon Dawn said:

There is ZERO fact based evidence that a civilian cloth mask does anything to stop the spread of COVID19

this is pure fearmongering by liberal cities to try and keep their police state in tact
Liberal cities? Why does this become an issue of liberal vs conservative. I know many conservative Republicans that want to do their part to help save lives.


You're not a conservative if you give in to every single edict by your local liberal dictatorship
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BigRobSA said:

jjay91 said:

BigRobSA said:

jjay91 said:

Thank you Harris county. Better late than never. I applaud you for making a sensible decision that I pushed for 3 weeks ago. More counties will follow suit.


Idiotic move with no teeth or significance

Care to explain with factual information rather than opinion.


Fact1: This is dumb and people pushing for it are doing it for show and not efficacy.

Fact2: No cop is going to write a ticket for this. I've been to HEBs, convenience stores and other places sans face-chain and have yet to meet a single bit of resistance.
Where
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jjay91 said:

Thank you Harris county. Better late than never. I applaud you for making a sensible decision that I pushed for 3 weeks ago. More counties will follow suit.



I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
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jjay91 said:

West Point Aggie said:

The police state of SF started today...my ex college roommate and his wife, currently under "house arrest" hate the idea but have no choice but to obey...drones with speakers likely the next step.

Maybe they can set up a snitch line like NYC did
We definitely don't want the military involved. Hopefully it won't have to get to that point.


The military can't get involved...only the guard and that's at the behest of the governor and in Texas that won't happen...here in Bexar in only wear the mask at the base commissary because otherwise I'm not allowed in...outside...not once...
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jjay91 said:

BigRobSA said:

jjay91 said:

BigRobSA said:

jjay91 said:

Thank you Harris county. Better late than never. I applaud you for making a sensible decision that I pushed for 3 weeks ago. More counties will follow suit.


Idiotic move with no teeth or significance

Care to explain with factual information rather than opinion.


Fact1: This is dumb and people pushing for it are doing it for show and not efficacy.

Fact2: No cop is going to write a ticket for this. I've been to HEBs, convenience stores and other places sans face-chain and have yet to meet a single bit of resistance.
Where


Bexar county

I even chatted with a policeman at the convenience store.

Both maskless.

Oh, the huge manatee!

All these lib scare tactics over yet another weakass superflu from Ghi-nah
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Thread killer. OP pull your head out

Spoiler : Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data
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CDUB98 said:

jjay91 said:

BigRobSA said:

jjay91 said:

Thank you Harris county. Better late than never. I applaud you for making a sensible decision that I pushed for 3 weeks ago. More counties will follow suit.


Idiotic move with no teeth or significance

Care to explain with factual information rather than opinion.


This is why, comrade, and also why you are behind. You were too busy flogging your dolphin over the authoritarianism that you missed the rebuttal.






Bwwwahhhhaaaaa! Looks like HPOU & Harris Co Sheriff's union listens to Michael Berry show. Their letters use the exact same arguments he made at 8AM this morning...


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If masks are so effective, why is the Harris County order allowing people to forego them when they are exercising - you know, when they are breathing hardest? Seems like that would be the time to wear one, if not double up on them.
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jjay91 said:


Well it's not just me, but it's your life and those around you.
I'll pass.
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Shooter McGavin said:

Thread killer. OP pull your head out

Spoiler : Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data

**** Disclaimer: I am not smart, so please consider that when responding. ****


Dude, be ready to be shot down by the smart people. Your data means nothing. The CDC says masks are good - see here: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html (but you will have to look very hard to find where they say masks are effective - hint: they don't say that.)


(edited because I forgot my disclaimer)


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Shooter McGavin said:

Thread killer. OP pull your head out

Spoiler : Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data
Cloth masks aren't to protect me from you. They are to protect you from me. This article is missing that point.
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jjay91 said:

I don't care if it is a freaking thong over your face. It is better than nothing. Look at Hong Kong which resembles New York. They all do and their infected numbers are considerably lower. I read an article about someone in China having coronavirus on a bus and everyone got infected except for the 13 or so wearing masks. I'm too tired to post links but if you want to verify the advantages of wearing them, just google it!!!

I get there is not enough so save the surgical and n95 masks for the medical fields.

Mandate that all clothing companies start making the best masks they can for everyone else. This is an untapped market and probably where we are headed anyways. They can make masks of all kinds appealing to the masses, ATM masks, Metallica masks, Justin Beaver masks etc...I don't care what they look like. Just freaking make them. Please, pretty please.
BIG NO
Plus Big Rob Big Head has a certain disability protected by civil rights.
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Plus this will turn Big Rob Big Head into disabled without enjoyment of the futile gesture needed to protect that civil right. Right now, the opportunity to see a head too big for a bandanna mask is still possible.
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BTHOthatguy said:

Shooter McGavin said:

Thread killer. OP pull your head out

Spoiler : Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data
Cloth masks aren't to protect me from you. They are to protect you from me. This article is missing that point.


Then me not wearing one only effects me, and since I have a working immune system...I'll pass.
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jjay91 said:

Urban Ag said:

I live in Williamson Co. We have 600,000 residents. We have about 45 confirmed cases. Out of 600,000. I have three in my zip code. Three. We are over represented in terms of healthcare providers because of the huge retired/replant crowd who go to the doctor all the time. If people were showing symptoms they'd be going to the doctor. They're not. I'm not wearing a mask.
Good for your numbers. You are one of the lucky ones so far.
If 99.999% are lucky, then there will be a lot of money made at the casinos when they open back up.
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law-apt-3g said:

jjay91 said:

I don't care if it is a freaking thong over your face. It is better than nothing. Look at Hong Kong which resembles New York. They all do and their infected numbers are considerably lower. I read an article about someone in China having coronavirus on a bus and everyone got infected except for the 13 or so wearing masks. I'm too tired to post links but if you want to verify the advantages of wearing them, just google it!!!

I get there is not enough so save the surgical and n95 masks for the medical fields.

Mandate that all clothing companies start making the best masks they can for everyone else. This is an untapped market and probably where we are headed anyways. They can make masks of all kinds appealing to the masses, ATM masks, Metallica masks, Justin Beaver masks etc...I don't care what they look like. Just freaking make them. Please, pretty please.
BIG NO
Plus Big Rob Big Head has a certain disability protected by civil rights.


ADA *****es!
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Social Distanced said:

Drones can be shot down...at least in Texas
No, this is incorrect. However, if they are shooting video they can be criminally charged.
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jjay91 said:

mazag08 said:

jjay91 said:

mazag08 said:

jjay91 said:

Thank you Harris county. Better late than never. I applaud you for making a sensible decision that I pushed for 3 weeks ago. More counties will follow suit.
You can now safely leave your home. You are not in danger anymore.
Continue to practice guidelines set forth by your local leaders
No thanks.

But I will continue to ignore anything that you think is "for the common good"
Well it's not just me, but it's your life and those around you.
Wow scary stuff !!!!!!!

This bug must be a real killer in your parallel universe. In this one its running well below all projections despite hard hit "shut it all Down" states like NT, NJ, Con, Mich, Pa. Just wait until the eco impact follows up for those 'shutter ups'
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BTHOthatguy said:

Shooter McGavin said:

Thread killer. OP pull your head out

Spoiler : Masks-for-all for COVID-19 not based on sound data
Cloth masks aren't to protect me from you. They are to protect you from me. This article is missing that point.
Boom see Shooter - you are dumb you missed the point. Carry on - masks are essential. So essential that the Harris County order does not go into effect until 5 days from now.


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