China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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going to make silver bullets I see

you'd be better off making bets in exchange for Amazon stock
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Madman said:

https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/04/10/136131/chinese-scientists-have-put-human-brain-genes-in-monkeysand-yes-they-may-be-smarter/



China......

Get your hands off of me, you damn dirty Chinaman!
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I think it is time to bring this back and look at what some of the ideas and theories that were espoused in real time and try to gain some real intelligence from them.

I, for one, thought things could become apocalyptic the way China was handling things.

Now, we have way more information and need to look into the past to help this state and country move into the future.


For instance: 1 in 4 people in the Capital of India have the antibodies already. How many in the US?
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3094033/coronavirus-latest-philippines-ramps-testing-australia
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Almost one in four people in New Delhi have been infected with the

coronavirus a study testing antibodies of a random sample of people in the Indian
capital published on Tuesday showed. This came as cases continued to rise across elsewhere in Asia.
According to the result of the survey, 23.48 per cent of the 21,387 people whose blood samples were tested had Covid-19 antibodies, a government statement said.

The study, which was conducted by the National Centre for Disease Control, showed that the infection rate in New Delhi was much higher than the number of confirmed cases indicated. For a city with an approximate population of 20 million, the total number of cases at a 23.4 per cent rate should stand around 4.7 million. But Delhi currently has a total of 123,747 cases, less than 1 per cent of its population.
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One year ago today TexAgs first learned about Covid.
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Big Al 1992 said:

One year ago today TexAgs first learned about Covid.


And it was about to change the world and wreck our nation.

Totally not a Chinese attack
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Without COVID, the events of today would've been much different.

Good game, China. Good game.
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CinchAG97 said:

Without COVID, the events of today would've been much different.

Good game, China. Good game.
If we had managed a better response to COVID, or at least there was more of a public perception that Trump took the virus more seriously(especially early on), I'm pretty sure he would've won.
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**** China
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C@LAg said:

traxter said:

CinchAG97 said:

Without COVID, the events of today would've been much different.

Good game, China. Good game.
If we had managed a better response to COVID, or at least there was more of a public perception that Trump took the virus more seriously(especially early on), I'm pretty sure he would've won.
ballot printer go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
exactly. The Dems were going to create enough fake ballots to win the swing states no matter what Trump did. The "if only Trump had done this, he would have won" comments are BS
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JamesE4 said:

C@LAg said:

traxter said:

CinchAG97 said:

Without COVID, the events of today would've been much different.

Good game, China. Good game.
If we had managed a better response to COVID, or at least there was more of a public perception that Trump took the virus more seriously(especially early on), I'm pretty sure he would've won.
ballot printer go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
exactly. The Dems were going to create enough fake ballots to win the swing states no matter what Trump did. The "if only Trump had done this, he would have won" comments are BS
Yep. only thing that would have changed was the slope of the 4am ballot dumps.
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Que Te Gusta Mas said:

https://medium.com/@siradrianbond/coronavirus-2019-ncov-part-1-d6a338eed7c5

An hour long article on the the theory this came from the Chinese lab.

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Chinese scientists, researchers, and doctors examining the emergent 2019-nCoV Coronavirus report that the new viral menace appears to be "a recombinant virus between the bat coronavirus and an origin-unknown coronavirus. The recombination occurred within the viral spike glycoprotein, which recognizes cell surface receptor." But Prof. Zhengli appears to have worked with recombinant Coronavirus derivations involving viral spike proteins for over a decade at Wuhan Institute of Virology, all the way back to 2006 and up to as recently as December, 2019 the very month that 2019-nCoV Coronavirus was first reported as having infected visitors at Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market just down the road from her laboratory!

In fact, on the day before the new coronavirus would find its first victims just 8.6 miles away at the market on December 12, 2019, Prof. Zhengli and her team published the study entitled Molecular mechanism for antibody-dependent enhancement of coronavirus entry on December 11, 2019.



And immediately after this study was published literally the following day the first victims became infected with what would soon be named Coronavirus 2019-nCoV began to get infectedjust a few miles away from Prof. Zhengli's laboratory. And as The Sun reports, victims of the new coronavirus are infected via a strong binding affinity to a human protein called ACE2," in precisely the identical manner as Prof. Zhengli's just-discovered "novel molecular mechanism" identified (or engineered) literally weeks if not days before. Do you believe in coincidences?

Let's say that's just a coincidence Prof. Zhengli published a study or two specifically on bat coronaviruses. Have there been others?

How much time you got? The above study, specifically relating to human host cell binding and entry of coronavirus infection, and published the day before the first viral infections were reported at a location adjacent Prof. Zhengli's laboratory, is far from the only study in which she has directed on the subject. The scientist's entire virology history is rife with hands-on experience with coronaviruses, with especial attention devoted to understanding their spike protein properties, as related to potentiality of human cell entry and infection.


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So we are left with the following pressing, unanswered questions about Prof. Zhengli, the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, and the Coronavirus 2019-nCoV outbreak in Wuhan:

Why are the Chinese authorities seemingly ignoring the Wuhan Institute Virology's contemporaneous coronavirus study (culminating in a Dec. 11, 2019 report, published the day before the outbreak) conducted at the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, located just 8.6 miles distant from the claimed epicenter of pandemic origin, Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market? Why is the media not reporting this?

Why are most media reports covering the coronavirus still misreporting the source of the virus' genome sequence as snakes instead of bats?

Since the Wuhan Institute of Virology has already isolated live, novel SARS-like Coronavirus SL-CoV-WIV1 from bat droppings in 2016, and such virus has been confirmed to invade the host cells through the ACE2 of human beings just like the new, emergent Coronavirus 2019-nCoV have the two coronaviruses been compared with each other? Was there a vaccine developed from Coronavirus SL-CoV-WIV1 that can be tested on victims of the latest outbreak? After all, it's been about four years now.

Has any formal investigation been launched into any role the Wuhan Institute of Virology (and specifically, its Classification P4 Biosafety Laboratory) may have played in the pandemic outbreak?

Did the new coronavirus penetrate the biosecurity measures of Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory? Did some bats mount a successful escape?

Did any scientists, researchers, professors, observers, students, or other staff persons working at or visiting the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory visit the Huanan Seafood Market in the first twelve days of December, 2019?
Since the original technology for viral confinement at the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory was developed in France, and since most of its actual, functional equipment was imported from France has the laboratory received ongoing certification inspections from French officials, given its lengthy, ongoing activities using Class 4 pathogens (P4) the most virulent viruses that pose the highest risk of aerosol-transmitted person-to-person infections? If so, where are the certification test results?

Has the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory been regularly inspected and audited by Chinese government health officials, especially by Li Bin, minister of the National Health and Family Planning Commission? If so, where are the inspection and audit results?

Could there have been either a staff person or visitor who smuggled out the coronavirus from the laboratory? (After all, a Chinese national was just arrested at Harvard University for attempting to smuggle research vials back to China at the same time when the Coronavirus 2019-nCoV outbreak started.)

At any time did Prof. Zhengli Shi who simultaneously currently holds the multiple titles of Senior Scientist and Principal Investigator, Director of the Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases, Director of BSL-3 Labatory, Director of the Committee of Biosafety, Director of Chinese Academy Sciences (CAS) Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, and Vice Director of BSL-4 Laboratory at Wuhan Institute of Virology, CAS ever work directly or indirectly for the CCP military services or military intelligence community?

Did Prof. Zhengli previously or does she currently co-conduct, coparticipate, collaborate, or collude with CCP military service members or military intelligence members?
Do members of the CCP military services or military intelligence contribute or participate in any manner or conduct viral research at the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory?

Did Prof. Zhengli or any other faculty member at the Wuhan Institute of Virology take possession, either illicitly or officially, of any biological substance, whether pathogen, vaccine, or other biomatter, originating from the United States or Canada?

Why did the US National Institute of Health (NIH) grant Prof. Zhengli $665,000 in 2014 to fund her study, The ecology of bat coronaviruses and the risk of future coronavirus emergence? What did the US receive in return?

Why did the United States Agency of International Development grant Prof. Zhengli $559,500 to fund her study, Emerging Pandemic Threats PREDICT 2_China? What did the US receive in return?

Why did Prof. Zhengli receive funding from U.S. Department of Defense, the U.S. Defense Threat Reduction Agency (the agency which deals specifically with Weapons of Mass Destruction), the U.S. Biological Defense Research Directorate of the Naval Medical Research Center, and the Department of Atomic of the Government of India?

What other professional relationships with U.S. defense agencies does Prof. Zhengli have currently, or previously, in any capacity?

When Prof. Zhengli received a visa to the United States to present at the Cell Symposium: Emerging and Re-emerging Viruses 2017 conference in Arlington, Virginia, did she visit the Pentagon or meet with Pentagon officials, since it was less than a mile away?

When Prof. Zhengli received a visa to the United States to present at the US-China Workshop on Frontiers in Ecology and Evolution of Infectious Diseases conference at UC Berkeley in 2018, did she visit Federal research facility, Lawrence-Berkeley-Livermore Laboratory in particular, the Department of Energy's Joint Genome Institute or meet with government officials, since it was only a mile and a half away?

Prof. Zhengli's C.V. indicates she received a visa to the United States to present at the U.S.-China Dialogue on the Challenges of Emerging Infections, Laboratory Safety and Global Health Security conference on January 17, 2018, in Galveston, Texas. However, such a conference appears to not have existed. For what purpose did she really come to Galveston perhaps to visit the Galveston National Laboratory, a high security National Biocontainment Laboratory housing several Biosafety Level 4 research laboratories, one of the only 15 biosecurity Level 4 facilities in the United States and the largest one in the world located on an academic campus? Was this apparently imaginary conference merely a ruse for a surreptitious rendezvous?

Of Prof. Zhengli's 130 published scientific studies, 5 of them are not to be found anywhere. Why are they not public? Are they classified?

Has Prof. Zhengli (or any other staff, resident or guest scientists, researchers, students, visitors, or others) at the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, or at Wuhan Institute of Virology in general, collaborated, participated with, colluded with, or in any way professionally acted in concert or collusion with, or in any way worked with or for, the World Economic Forum, the U.S. Center for Disease Control, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Pilbright Institute, the European Commission, the World Health Organization, the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council, or the John Hopkins Center for Health Security?

Prof. Zhengli recently (January 23, 2020) claimed to know very little about the latest epidemic outbreak, including basic biology, animal source, or any specific treatment, and indicated she doesn't know if ACE2 targeting drugs could treat Coronavirus 2019-nCoV infected victims. How can this be the case, given that she has studied human ACE2/coronavirus interaction for many years even most recently in her study immediately preceding the outbreak as reported in Prof. Zhengli's study published the day immediately preceding the outbreak? "The full-length genes of MERS-CoV spike (GenBank accession number 415 AFS88936.1), SARS-CoV spike (GenBank accession number AFR58742), human DPP4 416 (GenBank accession number NM_001935.3) and human ACE2 (GenBank accession 417 number NM_021804) were synthesized (GenScript Biotech)."
Considering Prof. Zhengli is the recipient of millions of dollars in grants and salaries, commands one of the world's leading, most advanced biosafety laboratories, has performed innumerable research studies into coronaviruses for three decades and counting what vaccines, to date, has she successfully produced? Has she produced any successful coronavirus vaccines at all? If so, where are they and how have they been publicly administered?


There's a lot more info in there as well.

So I'm probably just chasing a wild goose down into a rabbit hole

The account that published this article is banned.
Here is an archive of the article.
http://archive.is/QIBmE

At the time it was entirely a conspiracy theory.

I was digging up information on Peter Daszak
https://news.yahoo.com/researcher-tied-wuhan-lab-thanked-201433387.html

In the process of looking I found a couple of deleted Tweets. He never hid his association with Chinese virologist Shi Zhengli even calling her a friend. I wonder if he is hiding something. I don't see anything here that stands out as an issue but maybe other eyes would shed more light. The Archive link has both tweets. There may be others deleted as well, this is the only archived one I could find.

https://archive.vn/DADvy

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IrishTxAggie said:

It's the flu. Know how many people died of the flu in the US last year; About 56,000... This is nothing. Just fear mongering.
I can't express how much I love this. No edits, he called it from the beginning.
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OK the tweet above that was deleted was referenced here


This is the full tweet thread



As best I can tell the author is using the tweet to show a possible tie to COVID-19 and research with the Nipah virus. Both SARS and Nipah were being worked on in the suspect Wuhan facility.


https://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2020/12/04/bat-borne-nipah-virus-could-help-explain-covid-19/
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Still just the flu.
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******* pimping this donkey show confiscated a 15-months of peoples' lives for absolutely no gd reason.

I hope people remember this ****.

You'll never convince me that this wasn't 100% orchestrated.
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IrishTxAggie said:

It's the flu. Know how many people died of the flu in the US last year; About 56,000... This is nothing. Just fear mongering.


Good lord
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IrishTxAggie said:

It's the flu. Know how many people died of the flu in the US last year; About 56,000... This is nothing. Just fear mongering.


And now?
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rgag12 said:

Still just the flu.


Still a Chinese bio-weapon that, thanks to our government, we helped fund. Then they now have enough data points from this worldwide human experiment to develop the next strain, depending on what effect the Chicoms want
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Amazing how many doctors and scientists toed the party line.

I raised some of these issues early on with some of the most credentialed people I know.

All I got in return was a blank stare.

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That's the thing. You know more than thousands of trained health professionals. Weird they gave you just a blank stare. Mystery, really.
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blacksox said:

That's the thing. You know more than thousands of trained health professionals. Weird they gave you just a blank stare. Mystery, really.
You aren't a good troll. We all know what you're doing, but you aren't good at it.

Maybe try to actually contribute to the conversation rather than failing to be a troll.
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OP was InfectionAg wasn't he?

Edit: never mind it was someone named "Mr Infectious"
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FriscoKid said:

OP was InfectionAg wasn't he?

Edit: never mind it was someone named "Mr Infectious"
I wish the TA developers would make our profiles list previous usernames. It drives me nuts when posters change names.
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blacksox said:

That's the thing. You know more than thousands of trained health professionals. Weird they gave you just a blank stare. Mystery, really.
Nobody spoke out.

Its clear to everybody now that the Covid numbers were being wildly inflated.
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leachfan said:

Yeah - do you want a q-tip up your pee-hole and wait for the results? Or, just take the 7 days of antibiotics and move on?
I'll go with the antibiotics.
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Burnsey said:

I'm buying more ammo for zombies and the the infectious hoard.


What do you call a zombie that cooks stir-frys?

Dead Man Wok-ing.
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There's some real solid gold in this thread.

An hour-by-hour account of the biggest donkey show of all time.
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Coming up on 3yrs ago the toilet paper lockdowns
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IrishTxAggie said:

It's the flu. Know how many people died of the flu in the US last year; About 56,000... This is nothing. Just fear mongering.
Winner from Page 1.
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IrishTxAggie said:

DifferenceMaker Ag said:

If China is reporting 139 cases, then you better believe that the real number is closer to 10,000 plus.


Which means the mortality ratio is overblown too
Hot dog....nailed it on Page 2
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Kudos to the hive mind of Texags f16

Medal for Irishtexag logic and erudite's effort unveiling data.

Covid board kneecapped truth.
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Wtf happened to to COVID board? Should be left up there at the top. Forever.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

blacksox said:

That's the thing. You know more than thousands of trained health professionals. Weird they gave you just a blank stare. Mystery, really.
Nobody spoke out.

Its clear to everybody now that the Covid numbers were being wildly inflated.



Not all docs failed us, but a significant number showed us that if it comes to championing truth or going along with the lie out of fear of losing their license, they'll support the lie. Sad times in America.
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Covid definitely exposed Dr. As just rule followers. They Re just flowing the playbook on everything.
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