China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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aginlakeway said:

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Mr.Infectious said:


Sounds like he got a call from the Governor's office.
Backtracking?
Abbott said his EO is the maximum of what cities can impose.

Dallas saying May 20th goes beyond what Abbott approved, so Jenkins is still on his power trip.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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I think Abbott will have a statewide "lockdown" in place within a few days. Something like what MO did today. Texas is doubling casualties every 3 days. Nothing like exponential growth to panic a politician.
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Thomas Ford 91 said:

I think Abbott will have a statewide "lockdown" in place within a few days. Something like what MO did today. Texas is doubling casualties every 3 days. Nothing like exponential growth to panic a politician.
Does this local gov overreach make you moist in your panties? Seriously. Wash your hands and find your nuts.
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Thomas Ford 91 said:

I think Abbott will have a statewide "lockdown" in place within a few days. Something like what MO did today. Texas is doubling casualties every 3 days. Nothing like exponential growth to panic a politician.
Compared to most lefty run states Texas is doing fantastic. Just take a look at Michigan, Ill, Cali, Conn, NY, NJ, etc, etc,

Dont let the numbers hit you in the ass.
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https://www.coronavirusintexas.org/mobile.html


I'm moving to Freestone County...0 cases.
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Sweden model appears to be the best.
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Kozmozag said:

Sweden model appears to be the best.

Can confirm
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Kozmozag said:

Sweden model appears to be the best.


Rule #1
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It's been 75 days since OP on Jan 20.......339 confirmed cases in China.
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Mr.Infectious said:


N. Korea

Bawahahahahahahahahaahahahhaah

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Mr.Infectious said:


It's been 75 days since OP on Jan 20.......30,390,000 actual cases in China.
FIFY
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A list of highly stable, democratic regimes
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Mr.Infectious said:

Buck stops on his desk. Killing the economy for 100K deaths? Will the electorate accept that?

Killing the economy for millions of dead could be justified IMO.

He won't be able to run on a ticket of "I saved millions of lives", sorry you lost your business, job, home, car, etc....


He was dealt an incredibly ****ty hand. Not his fault. Bad to terrible options with massive unknowns at every turn and decisions that needed to be made quickly.

Now that the picture is clearer, it appears like he made the absolutely wrong decision.
For that to be true, the economy would have to be killed. It hasn't been.
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Bump this at the end of April......we'll discuss then.
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I'm sure they have some cases, but isn't the country essentially on lockdown as normal operating procedure? Their streets always look desolate.
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SJEAg said:

I'm sure they have some cases, but isn't the country essentially on lockdown as normal operating procedure? Their streets always look desolate.
Good point but the big May Day parade is next month. Its where the commies show their tiny peens in mass. Numbers should skyrocket a week or so later.
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ttu_85 said:

Mr.Infectious said:


N. Korea

Bawahahahahahahahahaahahahhaah


huge spike in lead poisoning.

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Let's all go to Lesotho!
Thomas Ford 91
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ttu_85 said:

Thomas Ford 91 said:

I think Abbott will have a statewide "lockdown" in place within a few days. Something like what MO did today. Texas is doubling casualties every 3 days. Nothing like exponential growth to panic a politician.
Compared to most lefty run states Texas is doing fantastic. Just take a look at Michigan, Ill, Cali, Conn, NY, NJ, etc, etc,

Dont let the numbers hit you in the ass.


I don't understand your point. Texas is doing the same as most states. Deaths are 1.7% of confirmed cases. The range for most states seem to be 1.5% to 2.1%. That excludes WA and NY, which are much higher.

Are you just looking at the total deaths and thinking we're doing fantastic because we're in 15th place? We're just farther down the slope.
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I'm not sure we're handling the virus better than the states you mentioned, it's more of a geographical advantage. All those states have areas of high population density and are heavily reliant on public transportation.

Also, one of the best models being used right now anticipates us having a higher death toll than every state except NY and Florida.
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Bullpen Chias said:

I'm not sure we're handling the virus better than the states you mentioned, it's more of a geographical advantage. All those states have areas of high population density and are heavily reliant on public transportation.

Also, one of the best models being used right now anticipates us having a higher death toll than every state except NY and Florida.
Best models according to who. Does the model take into account all known variables ? is it tied to a political agenda ?. Is it proven ? - I can answer this one, no.

And I bet you Texas does better than this model is forecasting. Remember your density point. And all coronavirus are sensitive to heat and humidiy. But who knows maybe this one is an exception.

We will soon see.
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Hopefully common sense begins to take the place of the panic patrol thinking and we get back to work by April 30th.

It was clumsy for Trump to listen to whoever suggested a one size fits all approach.

He will still get re-elected.
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Flu numbers would look similar if we approached flu cases like the COVIDs.

Many if not most with the COVIDs don't even get tested. They just get told to stay home and don't come in. That's if they know they have it, which with most getting mild symptoms to none, most don't even know.

It's nothing to get a flu test. Even if you think you have the flu you get a test.

Very misleading data.
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I've had the flu probably 6-10 times

I have never been tested.
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84AGEC said:

I've had the flu probably 6-10 times

I have never been tested.

Seems to be the norm. The CDC's estimates of confirmed flu cases is a small fraction of those they estimate to have it every year.

How could I not get it when the CDC estimates that 30M Americans have the flu every year (almost 10% of Americans)? Surely I've had it repeatedly and just struggled through it when I wasn't "feeling well."

Yet, I have never in my life been tested for flu.
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I'm almost 44. I have had a flu shot twice. Based on description of symptoms, I don't think I've had the flu since I was 12. I lived in suburban Houston area for most of my life. I had to have been exposed numerous times.

Either I am extremely lucky or the flu doesn't necessarily have symptoms of aches, chills, fever, etc with everyone, and I thought I had allergies or a cold.

I haven't run a fever since I was in college that I can remember.
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Bullpen Chias said:

I'm not sure we're handling the virus better than the states you mentioned, it's more of a geographical advantage. All those states have areas of high population density and are heavily reliant on public transportation.

Also, one of the best models being used right now anticipates us having a higher death toll than every state except NY and Florida.
As the 2nd largest state (29 Million), TX will likely have a high death total. Doesn't make sense that the largest state CA (39.5 Million) is modeled to have fewer deaths than TX.
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Best in what sense? Has tracked closest to actual data? With complex multi factor logistic curves, I don't trust any model for this more than a few days out. The error margins would necessarily make them nearly useless beyond that.

The input data is terrible.

We don't test neatly enough.
Testing conditions and type of test vary greatly.
What qualifies as a confirmed positive has changed with that.
Testing of suspected cases is radically insufficient.
We have insufficient population test data on asymptomatic cases.
Tested and confirmation of recoveries is completely inadequate.
Testing of recoveries necessarily lags testing of deaths by 1-2 weeks in total numbers.
And deaths for those who test positive for the virus but aren't necessarily dying from the virus primarily or even at all are being counted as caused by the virus.

Our mortality and recovery estimates could be grossly inaccurate, and most of the errors would create and artificially high mortality number.
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Will the EU be a victim of corona viris?




More here
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More Cali insanity.

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Of course "with the help of FEMA," so they are using federal $$$
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Free hotels for all homeless, paid for by the federal taxpayer.

Lunacy.
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