Pure speculation but I think we wind up where something like 30-40% of sub 40 somethings are asymptomatic. You saw it with the pro basketball players, and the Spanish soccer team, and the chadbro's on spring break.
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of course, small study
but circles back to the 1T dollar question - how many people have already got this bug?
the WHO's guidance on asymptomatic % feels deeply misleading at this point and actively harmful with regard to mask adoption
but circles back to the 1T dollar question - how many people have already got this bug?
the WHO's guidance on asymptomatic % feels deeply misleading at this point and actively harmful with regard to mask adoption
There's already been a study showing a large symptomatic susceptibility by age. Also from early Wuhan outbreak data (but included some expats) so who knows.
See fig 2b
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0822-7.pdf
See fig 2b
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0822-7.pdf
Their cure is quick as a bullet!goodAg80 said:
Is North Korea still at 0 cases and 0 deaths? Amazing health care system.
Correct. I have no problem with Costco being protective of their customers. My point was we can pump our own gas.ABATTBQ11 said:
They don't know where that glove has been
“It ain’t like it used to be.”
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Posted this in another thread, but figured I'd have better luck getting peoples' thoughts here. I really want to get some feedback from the people who seem to be almost exclusively focused on the biological impact of the virus itself...
Are we just delaying the inevitable? Heat and humidity doesn't seem to phase this thing and it would take months of doing this to have a hope of choking it out. I get that it was smart to implement measures to help protect us and "flatten the curve" and keep hospitals from being overwhelmed...but the reality is that our economy will crash and this country may never be the same if we keep this up into May, or God forbid, June.
At some point, society has to start functioning again if we want to avoid a true Great Depression 2.0 and wide scale devastation the likes of which none of us has ever seen in our lifetimes.
Say we start easing back into things May 1...hell, lets say June 1, after millions of businesses have gone under or had to fire employees and tens of millions are unemployed. How will this virus not start spreading like wildfire again? Seems like we're just kicking the can down the road. When we re-open things, we need to tell people to try to be clean, companies can voluntarily let people work from home etc....but the primary focus needs to be telling elderly and immune compromised that they need to take extra precaution to protect themselves...however long that takes.
And lastly...F F F China. They better pay for this and we better learn our lesson. They are good for a worldwide epidemic every 5-10 years, they're communist and have never played fair or truthfully, and they don't give a single bat turd about their own people, let alone the world. I will GLADLY pay extra for better quality products and services.
Are we just delaying the inevitable? Heat and humidity doesn't seem to phase this thing and it would take months of doing this to have a hope of choking it out. I get that it was smart to implement measures to help protect us and "flatten the curve" and keep hospitals from being overwhelmed...but the reality is that our economy will crash and this country may never be the same if we keep this up into May, or God forbid, June.
At some point, society has to start functioning again if we want to avoid a true Great Depression 2.0 and wide scale devastation the likes of which none of us has ever seen in our lifetimes.
Say we start easing back into things May 1...hell, lets say June 1, after millions of businesses have gone under or had to fire employees and tens of millions are unemployed. How will this virus not start spreading like wildfire again? Seems like we're just kicking the can down the road. When we re-open things, we need to tell people to try to be clean, companies can voluntarily let people work from home etc....but the primary focus needs to be telling elderly and immune compromised that they need to take extra precaution to protect themselves...however long that takes.
And lastly...F F F China. They better pay for this and we better learn our lesson. They are good for a worldwide epidemic every 5-10 years, they're communist and have never played fair or truthfully, and they don't give a single bat turd about their own people, let alone the world. I will GLADLY pay extra for better quality products and services.
ABATTBQ11 said:
They don't know where that glove has been
Prob made in Wuhan China.
aggiehawg said:
Louisiana's numbers for today.
LINK
Not good.
Anecdotal note, but we received word yesterday that someone we knew in the NO area who contracted it died. Two days prior he was placed in a medically induced coma. He was in his early 40's and as far as I know didn't have major underlying health issues.
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White House predicts 100,000 to 240,000 will die in US from coronavirus
PUBLISHED TUE, MAR 31 2020 5:49 PM EDT
President Donald Trump prepared Americans for a coming surge in coronavirus cases, calling COVID-19 a plague and saying the U.S. is facing a "very, very painful two weeks."
"This could be a hell of a bad two weeks. This is going to be a very bad two, and maybe three weeks. This is going to be three weeks like we've never seen before," Trump said at a White House press conference Tuesday. White House officials are projecting between 100,000 and 240,000 deaths in the U.S. with coronavirus fatalities peaking over the next two weeks. "When you look at night, the kind of death that has been caused by this invisible enemy, it's incredible."
The U.S. has more coronavirus cases than any other country in the world with 184,000 confirmed infections, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. New York has now become the new epicenter of the outbreak in the world with 75,795 confirmed cases as of Tuesday morning, more reported infections than China's Hubei province where the coronavirus emerged in December.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/31/trump-says-the-coronavirus-surge-is-coming-its-going-to-be-a-very-very-painful-two-weeks.html
I'm assuming the powers that be are hoping (maybe blindly) that we identify an effective, wide scale treatment in the next 30 to 60 days at which point we can turn the country back on.Boo Weekley said:
Posted this in another thread, but figured I'd have better luck getting peoples' thoughts here. I really want to get some feedback from the people who seem to be almost exclusively focused on the biological impact of the virus itself...
Are we just delaying the inevitable? Heat and humidity doesn't seem to phase this thing and it would take months of doing this to have a hope of choking it out. I get that it was smart to implement measures to help protect us and "flatten the curve" and keep hospitals from being overwhelmed...but the reality is that our economy will crash and this country may never be the same if we keep this up into May, or God forbid, June.
At some point, society has to start functioning again if we want to avoid a true Great Depression 2.0 and wide scale devastation the likes of which none of us has ever seen in our lifetimes.
Say we start easing back into things May 1...hell, lets say June 1, after millions of businesses have gone under or had to fire employees and tens of millions are unemployed. How will this virus not start spreading like wildfire again? Seems like we're just kicking the can down the road. When we re-open things, we need to tell people to try to be clean, companies can voluntarily let people work from home etc....but the primary focus needs to be telling elderly and immune compromised that they need to take extra precaution to protect themselves...however long that takes.
And lastly...F F F China. They better pay for this and we better learn our lesson. They are good for a worldwide epidemic every 5-10 years, they're communist and have never played fair or truthfully, and they don't give a single bat turd about their own people, let alone the world. I will GLADLY pay extra for better quality products and services.
If we don't, we absolutely have to make the tough decision to quarantine old people and move on. We can't destroy everyone and move to a totalitarian state trying to save one demographic.
Democrats will be pleased ...... they care for nothing but the removal of Trump , no matter the cost ....
I pray those numbers are wrong , but this is our time for our generation to put our our big boy pants on and work together through this . Just like the greatest generation did
I pray those numbers are wrong , but this is our time for our generation to put our our big boy pants on and work together through this . Just like the greatest generation did
Oh Stop. Nobody is happy about any of this.
China must pay dearly for what they have caused!!!
EXACTLY.
Trump ain't going anywhere.raiderjay said:
Democrats will be pleased ...... they care for nothing but the removal of Trump , no matter the cost ....
I pray those numbers are wrong , but this is our time for our generation to put our our big boy pants on and work together through this . Just like the greatest generation did
And the numbers are based on current data. They can change for the better ... easily.
Dude, totally unnecessary.
Some are. Some want to see the world burn. It is a very small minority but there are people that want chaos. It's not dems or repubs it's people who love chaos. They aren't really political.
There are also some extreme environmentalists who said the world was overpopulated and we needed a plague. I don't know how serious they were but they got it.
There are also some extreme environmentalists who said the world was overpopulated and we needed a plague. I don't know how serious they were but they got it.
No kidding, he was warning stupid. Funny how you picked up on this. Ummmmmm
Man, cmon. I'm a President Trump supporter.
That wasn't a warning. That was a downplay.
That wasn't a warning. That was a downplay.
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You consider Trump to be an idiot. Fine. We get that. It is not out of the realm that he was repeating the best case scenario provided by his virus experts at that moment.Shanked Punt said:
With a minimum estimate of 100,000 dead (and that figure only by shutting everything down), I guess its not just the common flu.
Sure you are. You realize that was after shutting down travel, daily task force in place, and projections being made. Maybe context and placement of statements has a SLIGHT BEARING on what this statement was meant to say at the time.
Integrity. Yeah, you lie about being a "supporter" then go with the gotcha line. You're the model of integrity
At least I don't have to control myself into a knot of cognitive dissonance. Telling the truth isn't gotcha.
He's a human being. He had an opinion. His opinion changed as he got new information. That's a good thing, not a bad one.
That was in the middle of a barrage of tweets about the stock market. He said the drop was due to the oil war (which was at minimum partially true) and to consider that the flu does xyz and no one worries.
He was saying the market wasn't pricing in covid19. It wasn't a warning, and in hindsight it was a bad take. That's alright.
He's a human being. He had an opinion. His opinion changed as he got new information. That's a good thing, not a bad one.
That was in the middle of a barrage of tweets about the stock market. He said the drop was due to the oil war (which was at minimum partially true) and to consider that the flu does xyz and no one worries.
He was saying the market wasn't pricing in covid19. It wasn't a warning, and in hindsight it was a bad take. That's alright.
Hindsight is a beotch of a way to live your life.
Excuses and rationalization are worse. Live and learn, move on, but don't fudge the truth.
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Who'd of thunk it. ScienceDaily of all places.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda: The haunting regret of failing our ideal selves
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180529153106.htm
Woulda, coulda, shoulda: The haunting regret of failing our ideal selves
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180529153106.htm
They're starting to feel the pressure... good, but wake me up when we see the real number of deaths reported.
Why does the media think every state will follow the same curve as NYC? NYC has a very different lifestyle and is completely urbanized with many people living next to each other in apartments, in transportation and in virtually every other facet of their lifestyle. We here in Texas are spread out and drive in separate cars and have a lot more space to keep our distance. I highly doubt we will come anywhere close to what they are going through with this virus. I'm tired of hearing many in the media saying we should be doing the same type of shutdown as NYC.
Or we can just ignore the truth until it's too late.k2aggie07 said:
Excuses and rationalization are worse. Live and learn, move on, but don't fudge the truth.
I like it, but why did he use a staphylococcus, a bacteria-****e and an amoeba? He should have used a corona virus. [/nerd]TelcoAg said:
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