ccaggie05 said:

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New York serves as another example of what happens when the health system gets overrun. I fear the death numbers we will see out of New York in a week.

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For scale NY now registers 53,000 cases. Italy at 92,000. It'll be interesting to see if NY catches them alone. I really hope now.

cone said:

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then we deserve to fail

it's not asking much

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Keep your distance, don't touch your face, keep your hands clean.

that's not going to be enough

but I'm glad we'll be vain to the end

cone said:

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that's not going to be enough

but I'm glad we'll be vain to the end

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Who is being vain? Be specific.

What more do you want TexAgs posters to do other than what is recommended? Be specific.

cone said:

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that's not going to be enough

but I'm glad we'll be vain to the end

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Front line doctors disagree with you.

I'm really worried about NY. Lots of friends there and a giant portion of our economy.

I thought we wanted to be like Japan?

cone said:

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that's not going to be enough

but I'm glad we'll be vain to the end

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Why is it not going to be enough?

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BoydCrowder13 said:

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Over 500 US deaths already today with a few hours to go.

5 days ago we were at 140 deaths/day.

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NY has a 50% reduction in new ICU cases today vs yesterday. Probably a 1-day blip but would be nice to see it continue.

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They probably just haven't reported it all yet. NY seems to update at least twice a day. Once around lunchtime and another around 11EST.

ccaggie05 said:

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New York serves as another example of what happens when the health system gets overrun. I fear the death numbers we will see out of New York in a week.

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Scary thing is, NY is stressed, but they aren't overrun yet. It could potentially get a lot worse (this not a prediction).

Quote:

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Mexico's deputy health minister Hugo Lopez-Gatell called on Saturday on all residents in Mexico to stay at home for a month, saying it was the only way to reduce the transmission rate of the coronavirus.

Mexican health authorities said there was a total of 848 confirmed cases in Mexico as of Saturday, 131 more than the previous day, and 16 deaths.

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front line doctors don't think wearing a bandanna or DIY mask is better at stopping asymptomatic spread than nothing at all

well that would be news to me

cone said:

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front line doctors don't think wearing a bandanna or DIY mask is better to stopping asymptomatic spread than nothing at all

well that would be news to me

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just saw a front line Dr on Fox News say wash your hands, don't touch your face and social distance. sorry I believe him.

because washing your hands and not touching your face doesn't stop people from spreading it asymptomatically in places where you come in relatively close contact with other people simply by virtue of geometry, like workplace hallways and restaurants

you asked how to get to a new normal. hand washing isn't enough. people are spreading before they are sick and just as infectious as if they were outwardly symptomatic.

the resistance to mask up during a pandemic baffles me. it's a covering for your mouth. that's it.

Looks Asian / weird is about the extent of it.

k2aggie07 said:

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Looks Asian / weird is about the extent of it.

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and my response is grow the **** up

AggieUSMC said:

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New York's hospitalization rate is dropping which is a leading indicator. Their death rate is climbing which is a lagging indicator. This is a good sign.

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I want to believe this is right. I know Cuomo has indicated it....but the numbers NY is putting out as a state aren't agreeing with that statement. Maybe its ICU beds or something that they don't report on.

agdaddy04 said:

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cone said:

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then we deserve to fail

it's not asking much

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Keep your distance, don't touch your face, keep your hands clean.

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It really is that simple.

Wait, so it is airborne now?

People are getting sick because they are touching their face and not washing their hands after not keeping their distance from others.

It's not complicated folks.

I'd do it but:

1. It makes people nervous that you are infected.

2. People can't get masks if they don't already have some.

Cough borne.

That's correct, and isn't that the research behind the 6' distancing?

breath borne

You can soak the mask in bleach solution or alcohol and reuse it. There is a slim chance it will be slightly less effective after you repeat this a few times, but much better than a contaminated mask or running out of masks.

Sort of. If you somehow exhale large droplets containing viral particles. They might remain briefly airborne before settling on a surface. It is not considered to be truly airborne.

I thought it could remain in aerosol form for up to three hours? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Bullpen Chias said:

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I thought it could remain in aerosol form for up to three hours? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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That was when it was aerosolized using a nebulizer as a worst case scenario.

MouthBQ98 said:

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You can soak the mask in bleach solution or alcohol and reuse it. There is a slim chance it will be slightly less effective after you repeat this a few times, but much better than a contaminated mask or running out of masks.

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If you put a mask at 160F for 30 minutes, it will kill all viruses with no damage to the mask.

Here's the Stanford Medicine publication on sanitizing PPE

https://m.box.com/shared_item/https%3A%2F%2Fstanfordmedicine.box.com%2Fv%2Fcovid19-PPE-1-1

Not sure we definitively know still

Many experts have said droplets but some studies of clusters that occurred in public places indicate otherwise

Japan data from a recent thread: