Dan Patrick on Tucker right now talking sensibly.

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I believe the first part but not necessarily the 2nd part.

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I believe the asymptomatic numbers are much much much higher than people think. I also believe it is fair to assume that the virus has been in the US a lot longer than we believe. Virus dates back to mid-November and we didn't get a case in the US until January 20th. Over two months during some of the busiest travel seasons of the year. It doesn't add up.

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I saw the original 80% asymptomatic stat, but thought it had been walked back to around 15%

It's kind of shocking. The most sensible I have ever heard Dan Patrick speak.

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I thought he was well reasoned yesterday, but seems he's a little less reasonable today.

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I cant take the chicken little **** anymore.

sorry I'm not saying what you'd prefer to hear

and yet no serology study

Scott Gottlieb is probably ****ting a brick right now

agdaddy04 said:

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Stay at home order now in Denver starting tomorrow night. Liquor stores closing as well, so I guess I may be considered a hoarder now. April 10th is a long time away.

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Well that didn't last long, they made liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries exempt now. They were experiencing too many people in the stores at once. Hmm, imagine that. Never would've guessed.

So you think the rate is higher? I'm taking from that quote that the overall rate is much lower.

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and yet no serology study

Scott Gottlieb is probably ****ting a brick right now

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My money is on Birx. You want to run off with your sky is falling ****, go right ahead. Those are the words out of the mouth of the woman that has been the most reasoned during all of this. Even when the Pres. Spray Tan won't shut up when he needs to.

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So you think the rate is higher? I'm taking from that quote that the overall rate is much lower.

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I'm not sure what the rate is, I was just thinking the prevailing thinking was that the minority were asymptomatic not the majority

IrishTxAggie said:

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IrishTxAggie said:

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I believe the first part but not necessarily the 2nd part.

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I believe the asymptomatic numbers are much much much higher than people think. I also believe it is fair to assume that the virus has been in the US a lot longer than we believe. Virus dates back to mid-November and we didn't get a case in the US until January 20th. Over two months during some of the busiest travel seasons of the year. It doesn't add up.

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the cruise ship is still the best handle on asymptomatic cases. 50 % of positive test were from people with no symptoms.

the final numbers were closer to 20% asymptomatic on the ship

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IrishTxAggie said:

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Exsurge Domine said:

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IrishTxAggie said:

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I believe the first part but not necessarily the 2nd part.

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I believe the asymptomatic numbers are much much much higher than people think. I also believe it is fair to assume that the virus has been in the US a lot longer than we believe. Virus dates back to mid-November and we didn't get a case in the US until January 20th. Over two months during some of the busiest travel seasons of the year. It doesn't add up.

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They have already traced the origins of the disease in all 3 areas of major breakout. It appeared in January in all 3 places.

Why do you guys keep on posting the same exact disproven opinions?

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People want to believe they are logical, but most act based on emotion.

In this case, people are stating their hopes as fact and ignoring actual facts.

The freaking irony of y'all beating me over the head for weeks about trusting Chinese and WHO numbers and data not being able to be trusted, but now you'll clutch to them like they're your bible and infallible.

Hey cone, I drink WhistlePig Rye. I'll let you out of your 50k number bet now if you'd rather just give me a bottle of Basil Hayden.

Missed it, mind giving a quick recap?

Too small of a sample size to say one way or the other.

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The freaking irony of y'all beating me over the head for weeks about trusting Chinese and WHO numbers and data not being able to be trusted, but now you'll clutch to them like they're your bible and infallible.

Hey cone, I drink WhistlePig Rye. I'll let you out of your 50k number bet now if you'd rather just give me a bottle of Basil Hayden.

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What? I don't believe their numbers at all and I don't trust the WHO. The information about where the disease started in the US came from American studies and tracing.

I'd give almost anything to make this nightmare end

whatever alcohol you need

IrishTxAggie said:

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The freaking irony of y'all beating me over the head for weeks about trusting Chinese and WHO numbers and data not being able to be trusted, but now you'll clutch to them like they're your bible and infallible.

Hey cone, I drink WhistlePig Rye. I'll let you out of your 50k number bet now if you'd rather just give me a bottle of Basil Hayden.

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WhistlePig Rye is the *****

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I'd give almost anything to make this nightmare end

whatever alcohol you need

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For some reason I don't believe you

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IrishTxAggie said:

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IrishTxAggie said:

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I believe the first part but not necessarily the 2nd part.

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I believe the asymptomatic numbers are much much much higher than people think. I also believe it is fair to assume that the virus has been in the US a lot longer than we believe. Virus dates back to mid-November and we didn't get a case in the US until January 20th. Over two months during some of the busiest travel seasons of the year. It doesn't add up.

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The 90% negative test rate disproves the "large number of asymptomatic" myth.

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The biggest surprise from China was when WHO went in there looking for this large population of asymptomatic cases and didn't find them. The second biggest was when their lead in the expedition said if I get covid-19 I would want to be treated here in China. It was my 'oh ****' moment because it flipped what I thought was the reality of the situation. Backwards China etc etc

They are backwards in so many ways but they are ultimately prepared for a novel outbreak like this and they threw all of their resources at the problem until it was snuffed out completely.

I read recently that any visitor to their country gets put into a 14 day mandated strict quarantine. How strict? They put a seal on your door strict.

if you get a false positive and don't develop symptoms then the data set considers you asymptomatic

you put faith in that WHO presser?

it's become pretty clear they're just a Chinese puppet

they said with confidence that China found all their cases and a new study shows they underestimated the number of cases by a factor of five

Actually not having a lot of asymptomatic cases is good because that means people are less likely to spread not knowing they have it.

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IrishTxAggie said:

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IrishTxAggie said:

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I believe the first part but not necessarily the 2nd part.

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I believe the asymptomatic numbers are much much much higher than people think. I also believe it is fair to assume that the virus has been in the US a lot longer than we believe. Virus dates back to mid-November and we didn't get a case in the US until January 20th. Over two months during some of the busiest travel seasons of the year. It doesn't add up.

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The 90% negative test rate disproves the "large number of asymptomatic" myth.

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The biggest surprise from China was when WHO went in there looking for this large population of asymptomatic cases and didn't find them. The second biggest was when their lead in the expedition said if I get covid-19 I would want to be treated here in China. It was my 'oh ****' moment because it flipped what I thought was the reality of the situation. Backwards China etc etc

They are backwards in so many ways but they are ultimately prepared for a novel outbreak like this and they threw all of their resources at the problem until it was snuffed out completely.

I read recently that any visitor to their country gets put into a 14 day mandated strict quarantine. How strict? They put a seal on your door strict.

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You sound like you are getting aroused here? If you want to live in a commie country who locks you ina room for 14 days to make sure you don't have coronavirus its that way >. Oh and 8===D

not necessarily

you can get the worst of both worlds

asymptomatic spread during incubation prior to symptoms

Did anyone hear what Dr Brix actually said? Like a quote? I'm very curious.

Essentially, continued economic destruction will far outweigh any impacts from the chinese virus.

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Now death rate doesn't matter. The goalpost moving is pretty fascinating to watch.

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I don't think death rate matters either, raw deaths seem to be the most accurate metric right now

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Missed it, mind giving a quick recap?

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