China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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swimmerbabe11
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Is it a suggestion or a ban?
The news article says ban.. so I'm curious about how that can legally be enforced.
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k2aggie07 said:

Some preliminary good news

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3551767

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we find, under a linear regression framework for 100 Chinese cities, high temperature and high relative humidity significantly reduce the transmission of COVID-19, respectively, even after controlling for population density and GDP per capita of cities. One degree Celsius increase in temperature and one percent increase in relative humidity lower R by 0.0383 and 0.0224, respectively. This result is consistent with the fact that the high temperature and high humidity significantly reduce the transmission of influenza. It indicates that the arrival of summer and rainy season in the northern hemisphere can effectively reduce the transmission of the COVID-19.

Not peer reviewed, grain of salt, etc etc


See, global warming is a good thing!
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KorbinDallas said:



We need to refocus on active cases not total cases. This is more of a barometer for what's going on. You can see the dip after China peaked and before Europe and the Middle East picked up. Note that it is rising again and will probably peak over China's number. Everyone wants to focus on total confirmed cases, but half of those are recovered.

Source: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
This has been my favorite site on the outbreak and i've been following it for about 2 weeks now. Pretty fascinating stuff if you like numbers like I do.

Unfortunately focusing on active cases doesn't tell the complete story since 91% of the recovered patients are in China. Maybe everybody's curve will look like China's and this will all be done with soon, but that seems optimistic given the slow playing that everybody has been doing until the last week. Total cases is more important because that's where you see the exponential growth rate (or if it's peaked). Right now that number is a straight line and once capacity gets overwhelmed you have cascading failures of the health care system (see: Italy).
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Only 10 of the current US cases are considered serious....what is going on in Italy?
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swimmerbabe11 said:

Is it a suggestion or a ban?
The news article says ban.. so I'm curious about how that can legally be enforced.
It's a ban.



I'd heard it was going to be banning everything above 250 so either they revised the numbers up to 500 with just a warning for 250 or my info was off.
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swimmerbabe11 said:

Is it a suggestion or a ban?
The news article says ban.. so I'm curious about how that can legally be enforced.


We shall see.... the only group I see more likely to sue than Episcopalians are the Catholics. I doubt the Rector will receive this ban well at all due to his insistence of continuing services intelligently. i.e. see below

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Dear brothers & sisters in Christ,

I wanted to update you on the latest precautions we are taking to slow the spread of novel coronavirus, and to ask your prayers for those who are directly affected.

Please pray daily for those who work in our hospitals and nursing homes, and of course for the sick and their families who support them. If you know anyone who is self-isolating at the moment, do pick up the phone to encourage them. Please keep an eye out for your elderly neighbors who may need your practical assistance with shopping or other needs. Let them know you are available to help.

As we enter this new phase of Coronavirus spreading within our city, we are making additional changes to our life together (you can find the previously announced changes to our Sunday worship below). These changes are in accord with the response plan we have been preparing for the last several weeks.

This Sunday we are asking our older parishioners and those with health problems seriously to consider staying home. We will be providing an online way of participating in Sunday worship so you can join in prayer and hear the sermon and music. You may watch the Uptown/North Contemporary Worship Service at 9 am on Facebook or the Traditional Worship Service at 11:15 am on Facebook.

Also, out of charity to others, please stay home from church if you are sick or are experiencing symptomseven minor ones.

Beginning at noon tomorrow, Friday, March 13, we are suspending all MondaySaturday in person meetings and activities through at least April 4. This includes all weekday worship services, committee meetings, Growth Groupseverything on our parish calendar both on and off campus. Doing so will help keep our community as safe as possible.

At this time, all Sunday activities and programs will continue.

Finally, in accordance with our response plan, we have engaged our cleaning service to do a deeper clean of all surfaces in our facilities.

As you know, panic is getting tangible in the Metroplex. Our calling is to make the love of Christ more tangible still. Jesus said that "perfect love drives out fear," and we can all play our part in supporting one another through this crisis.

"Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid."


In Christ,

Bishop Tony Burton
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the last of the bohemians said:

Only 10 of the current US cases are considered serious....what is going on in Italy?
I don't think you can take those numbers at face value when they are low. Iran clearly has more than 0 critical cases given their death toll.

Critical cases are not being updated very frequently.
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OMG we aren't testing!!!
OMG!!! There aren't enough beds!!!!
OMG!!!! HEB is shutting down!!!

What will it be 2 hours from now?
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deddog said:

OMG we aren't testing!!!
OMG!!! There aren't enough beds!!!!
OMG!!!! HEB is shutting down!!!

What will it be 2 hours from now?



Missed the memo on heb today. Can i go tomorrow or should I just off myself?
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Mordred said:

the last of the bohemians said:

Only 10 of the current US cases are considered serious....what is going on in Italy?
I don't think you can take those numbers at face value when they are low. Iran clearly has more than 0 critical cases given their death toll.

Critical cases are not being updated very frequently.


Also, while still the same novel coronavirus there are variations in new strains which can make it worse. Let's hope the US strains aren't worse than the original wuhan virus
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Having done hours of research using the Plague Inc resource, I have concluded that since the virus did not originate in Greenland or Madigascar, humanity will survive.
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JesusQuintana said:

deddog said:

OMG we aren't testing!!!
OMG!!! There aren't enough beds!!!!
OMG!!!! HEB is shutting down!!!

What will it be 2 hours from now?



Missed the memo on heb today. Can i go tomorrow or should I just off myself?


Potential positive, obese people might have difficulty in purchasing the quantities and same items they have come accustomed to consuming in excess.
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My guess ....






The carnage created by this moronic panic will be exponentially worse than the human toll due to actual coronavirus infection.

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For years the libs have railed on about how global warming is going to kill us, that we need single payer/socialized medicine to save us, and that globalization and open borders are good for us.

My takeaway from Covid-19 is just the opposite. I think we can effectively say that each of those are wrong, higher temps and humidity seem to limit the transmission, Italy's healthcare system is literally cratering during this epidemic, and increasing our interaction with China/Asia is killing/killed our citizens.
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I would imagine that the US does a little better job of stat collection for serious hospital stays than the honorable Iranian regime.
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deddog said:

OMG we aren't testing!!!
OMG!!! There aren't enough beds!!!!
OMG!!!! HEB is shutting down!!!

What will it be 2 hours from now?



Strip clubs and massage parlors closing
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the last of the bohemians said:

I would imagine that the US does a little better job of stat collection for serious hospital stays than the honorable Iranian regime.


Not when we only had ****ing 77 CDC tests run yesterday
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the last of the bohemians said:

I would imagine that the US does a little better job of stat collection for serious hospital stays than the honorable Iranian regime.
Yes, but I've been following this site almost 2 weeks now, and the US number has been at 10 for the last several days, and people keep dying. Either dying people aren't critical, there's only one new critical case for every death, or the number isn't being reported accurately.

There's a reason critical cases aren't listed on the country page.
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the last of the bohemians said:

I would imagine that the US does a little better job of stat collection for serious hospital stays than the honorable Iranian regime.
You would be wrong.
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the last of the bohemians said:

I would imagine that the US does a little better job of stat collection for serious hospital stays than the honorable Iranian regime.
We have people who have died that they are doing autopsy's on and finding they died of the virus. Those are not counted, and that is just one example. We have many other examples of people who have all the symptoms and have been exposed but are they counted? NO, why? No freaking tests.

How can you have accurate numbers when you can't test?
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Mordred said:

the last of the bohemians said:

I would imagine that the US does a little better job of stat collection for serious hospital stays than the honorable Iranian regime.
Yes, but I've been following this site almost 2 weeks now, and the US number has been at 10 for the last several days, and people keep dying. Either dying people aren't critical, there's only one new critical case for every death, or the number isn't being reported accurately.

There's a reason critical cases aren't listed on the country page.


Has anyone seen any info or studies on how long people are staying critical?
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covid-19 made it to Alaska today... thoughts and prayers please.

In all seriousness im curious how things play out here if/when it makes its way to remote communities and/or our already small capacity medical system gets over burdened.
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online confession....i take back everything i've said about this in the last minute
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Mordred said:

swimmerbabe11 said:

Is it a suggestion or a ban?
The news article says ban.. so I'm curious about how that can legally be enforced.
It's a ban.



I'd heard it was going to be banning everything above 250 so either they revised the numbers up to 500 with just a warning for 250 or my info was off.
Will be interesting to see them try and enforce this. Woefully understaffed to even handle normal police activity and now you add this on top of it. Sure. Go for it.
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C@LAg said:

Seattle public libraries now closed for a month.

Where will the homeless go to ****, pee, masturbate, look at porn, steal from people and sleep inside during the day?
They'll just spread further down south on 3rd Ave.
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TAMUallen said:

the last of the bohemians said:

I would imagine that the US does a little better job of stat collection for serious hospital stays than the honorable Iranian regime.


Not when we only had ****ing 77 CDC tests run yesterday
And we had 1300 run at UW, and California is close to 1000. What's up with being so reliant on the Feds for everything? Are you from the US? You do realize that the vast majority of our laws and powers are delegated to the states, right?
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BTHOthatguy said:

It's a suggestion for public health. DPD isn't walking in to break up worship.

It's telling churches take a couple weeks off. Broadcast on the internet. Listen to the President.


I asked my preacher if he knows any good catacombs where we can meet to hide from Johnny Law
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I'd really like to know this.

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Snap E Tom said:

TAMUallen said:

the last of the bohemians said:

I would imagine that the US does a little better job of stat collection for serious hospital stays than the honorable Iranian regime.


Not when we only had ****ing 77 CDC tests run yesterday
And we had 1300 run at UW. What's up with being so reliant on the Feds for everything? Are you from the US? You do realize that the vast majority of our laws and powers are delegated to the states, right?


I'm very state's rights oriented. Our government is not. For instance, zero state tax in Texas. A pandemic is a global issue, thus federal. For our CDC to be such a failure is a complete shame. As such, our ridiculous federal spending better go over the top right now on giving money to state institutions or private institutions that can meet the federal need which they are unable to satisfy instead of compromising the entire health of the nation
swimmerbabe11
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I'm really not trying to be obtuse... how can we be banning assembly when that is an obvious first amendment violation.

Banning assembly is specifically prohibited in the constitution.
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BallerStaf2003 said:

I'd really like to know this.




There does seem to be a disproportionate number of celebrities, athletes and high profile individuals being tested.
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swimmerbabe11 said:

I'm really not trying to be obtuse... how can we be banning assembly when that is an obvious first amendment violation.

Banning assembly is specifically prohibited in the constitution.


The freedoms in the Constitution are not absolute.
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mugwurt said:

swimmerbabe11 said:

I'm really not trying to be obtuse... how can we be banning assembly when that is an obvious first amendment violation.

Banning assembly is specifically prohibited in the constitution.


The freedoms in the Constitution are not absolute.


Perhaps that's the entire purpose of Bill of Rights and Amendments, particularly the 2nd? Your rights and freedoms are not determined by a government that doesn't represent you or one that completely fails to do its job
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