Not eating Hunan chicken, Hunan beef and not riding that Hunan bus.
China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission
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Dude musta been coughing nastiness errwhere.
But that may not be quite right. He might have gotten on the front and cough crop-dusted his viral load on everyone as he walked past.
But that may not be quite right. He might have gotten on the front and cough crop-dusted his viral load on everyone as he walked past.
And the testing process will go from medical provider to city/county/state health labs and some FDA approved medical laboratories throughout the country.
I don't know if it has been linked but there is a presumptive positive test in Collin County. Getting closer to lots of us.
wow
Shack165 said:PJYoung said:leakypipes said:
I thought a "presumptive" case was a positive test, but not confirmed because that test has to be verified by the CDC.
Do I have that wrong?
Exactly correct.
Actually, the CDC does not use "presumptive". If they did then anyone with cold and flu symptoms could be considered "presumptive". There's a huge difference between being tested and a confirmation. The CDC refers to individuals to be tested as Patients Under Investigation(PUIs) for covid-19.
My point was that the media should not be reporting on the unconfirmed. It serves no other purpose than to cause panic.
They have to do something ... case load has been growing 20% per day consistently. But still, that's shocking.
If they don't get a handle on it they'll pass China in ~13 days.
If they don't get a handle on it they'll pass China in ~13 days.
Shack165 said:PJYoung said:leakypipes said:
I thought a "presumptive" case was a positive test, but not confirmed because that test has to be verified by the CDC.
Do I have that wrong?
Exactly correct.
Actually, the CDC does not use "presumptive". If they did then anyone with cold and flu symptoms could be considered "presumptive". There's a huge difference between being tested and a confirmation. The CDC refers to individuals to be tested as Patients Under Investigation(PUIs) for covid-19.
My point was that the media should not be reporting on the unconfirmed. It serves no other purpose than to cause panic.
Actually leakypipes is correct. CDC uses presumptive exactly as he described above.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-orders-all-arrivals-from-abroad-into-two-week-quarantine/
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Israel on Monday evening drastically ratcheted up its measures to close off the country from the coronavirus threat, requiring all those arriving from abroad to go into quarantine.
All Israeli citizens returning to from overseas were ordered to self-quarantine for 14 days with immediate effect.
Non-Israeli citizens will be allowed into the country for another 72 hours. But after that, they will be barred completely unless they can demonstrate that they have a place to quarantine here for 14 days.
what happened in Italy is what I thought was going to happen to Japan two weeks ago
so i wonder what the difference is between the two
so i wonder what the difference is between the two
Goodness. We are in unprecedented territory here.
Well then...that's stupid and I like the use of PUI better!
Guess I'll just go get some toilet paper.
I still say the media shouldn't report them until they're confirmed...
Guess I'll just go get some toilet paper.
I still say the media shouldn't report them until they're confirmed...
Spain almost doubled their cases today to over 1,200.
555 new positive infections today
555 new positive infections today
cone said:
what happened in Italy is what I thought was going to happen to Japan two weeks ago
so i wonder what the difference is between the two
Well, we all know Japan is a much cleaner and orderly place for starters.
Japan also took much more proactive steps to try and contain it.cone said:
what happened in Italy is what I thought was going to happen to Japan two weeks ago
so i wonder what the difference is between the two
Italy decided to pull a Nero and fiddle.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Probably caught it on flight back to India.Quote:
It is believed the patient developed symptoms about five or six days after leaving Austin.
Japanese are freakishly clean - and they obey orders
much higher population density
mass transit
is this really about hygiene and proactive distancing?
japan hasn't been doing the SoKo testing
mass transit
is this really about hygiene and proactive distancing?
japan hasn't been doing the SoKo testing
Japan has not been aggressively testing
i do think they are cleaner and more easily cowed than europeans
i do think they are cleaner and more easily cowed than europeans
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I have a rental house on VRBO. Today we had our first rental cancellation because of the corona virus. A couple from Houston had to cancel because their neighbor came back from Egypt with it. The neighbor is now just fine after being treated by doctors, but you will never hear that from the media. Unfortunately, our renters are quarantined for the next two weeks.
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All of Italy will be placed under the lockdown conditions thus far imposed upon the so-called "red zone" in the north of the country, the Italian prime minister Giuseppe Conte has said.
The restrictions will include banning all public gatherings and preventing all movement other than for work and emergencies. According to the Reuters news agency, he has said the decision was necessary to protect Italy's most vulnerable citizens and that the right course of action now is for people to stay at home.
Thinks look rather dire in Italy.
So I have a question about these underlying conditions? Are these untreated conditions? Say you are 48 and have high blood pressure that is treated, or an 11 year old that has asthma that is controlled through inhalers? Asking for a couple of friends.
NoYouBet said:who?mikejones said:
This is FRISCO man?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
cone said:
Japan has not been aggressively testing
i do think they are cleaner and more easily cowed than europeans
Japan has doubled their cases to 530 in the last 8 days so they're not exactly out of the woods yet.
their first community spread case was what day?
first death was report Feb 12
either they are hiding the deaths or something is slowing it down there compared to Italy
first death was report Feb 12
either they are hiding the deaths or something is slowing it down there compared to Italy
Went to school multiple days while sick.PJYoung said:
Just like that ****ing lawyer in New York City. Idiots like this are what spread the virus more than anything else.
None of the news stories say how she got it. Usually that comes out a little bit later, or they'll say they don't know. It's being looked into.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
A few more stories like this will really get people into a fever pitch.
cone said:
what happened in Italy is what I thought was going to happen to Japan two weeks ago
so i wonder what the difference is between the two
From a report about a week ago, apparently there are two different strains of the virus floating around....Mutations occur in these things.
L strain and S strain from what I remember.
See, the problem is one has a few symptoms and thinks "hmm wonder if I'm sick". Like right now, I have a little bit of sinus drainage, which is almost certainly due to hay fever.
OR IS IT!
See, that's the point. Every time I have a little cough or sinus drainage, I can't self-quarantine for two weeks.
And that's not necessarily people being a-holes. We all waffle on how sick is too sick to go to work.
OR IS IT!
See, that's the point. Every time I have a little cough or sinus drainage, I can't self-quarantine for two weeks.
And that's not necessarily people being a-holes. We all waffle on how sick is too sick to go to work.