Ahh 10-4, just letting you know first hand that products are coming out of China after a month or so of delays. A lot is coming via air freight to make up for the losses so be prepared to see newly infected around DFW and Bush airports...IrishTxAggie said:You may not fully understand my passive aggressive comment because I don't believe I've seen you post much. The reason I made the comment is because I've been saying since about Feb. 10th-ish that my plants in the mainland were back open and I had cargo on ships headed for N. America from Zhuhai (Port of Gaolan) and posters told me that I was just believing the Chinese government and didn't know what my own plant and employees were doing.P.U.T.U said:
We are actually getting product from China now and a few manufactures said they are back up to full speed. I really do not believe it but it is China so if they want to save their economy I can see them forcing people back to work.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/03/trumps-baffling-coronavirus-vaccine-event/Quote:
As a private citizen and presidential candidate, Donald Trump was a proponent of vaccine skepticism ignoring the scientific consensus on stuff like how vaccines don't cause autism. As president, he is now surrounded by experts on the subject, including on Monday when he held a coronavirus roundtable with his task force and the heads of several pharmaceutical companies.
Yet despite the increasingly scary situation involving the disease and preparations having been underway for weeks, he still appears rather clueless on the subject.
At the event Monday, Trump peppered the drug companies with questions that were some variant of "How fast can you get it done?" But despite this having been a focal point in recent weeks, he still didn't seem to process the fact that producing a vaccine means conducting months and months of trials before it can be deployed. He even at one point asked whether the flu vaccine could be used to combat coronavirus.
After Leonard Schleifer, the founder and chief executive of Regeneron, said his company aimed to have 200,000 doses ready by August, Trump asked him, "That means you'd be able to use the vaccine that early?" He added, "So that process would be faster than John's?" referring to another CEO.
After another CEO took a turn, Trump asked him, "So you're talking over the next few months, you think you could have a vaccine?"
The CEO clarified that it would be ready only for phase two of testing at that point. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, added: "Yeah. You won't have a vaccine. You'll have a vaccine to go into testing."
"And how long would that take?" Trump asked. The CEO said it would take months and then head into phase three. "All right. So you're talking within a year."
"A year to a year and a half," Fauci again clarified.
"Well, but, Lenny is talking about two months, right?" Trump said, incorrectly referring to Schleifer's August estimate.
"A little a little longer," Schleifer again clarified. "A little longer."
"A couple of months, right?" Trump pressed. "I mean, I like the sound of a couple of months better, I must be honest with you."
That's when Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar cut in, again emphasizing the difference between being ready for testing and ready to deploy.
"But when you say June phase one initiation, though right? in June, it's not a completed vaccine," Azar said.
David Brooks said on the Sunday shows that the Democrats were going to use the Kung Flu again Trump, and it usually takes them 48 hours to really get going so this is right on time.Furlock Bones said:
it's actually not baffling at all. that's exactly how CEOs operate. he's pushing them hard to get it done faster.
unimboti nkum said:
Trump's baffling coronavirus vaccine eventhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/03/trumps-baffling-coronavirus-vaccine-event/Quote:
As a private citizen and presidential candidate, Donald Trump was a proponent of vaccine skepticism ignoring the scientific consensus on stuff like how vaccines don't cause autism. As president, he is now surrounded by experts on the subject, including on Monday when he held a coronavirus roundtable with his task force and the heads of several pharmaceutical companies.
Yet despite the increasingly scary situation involving the disease and preparations having been underway for weeks, he still appears rather clueless on the subject.
At the event Monday, Trump peppered the drug companies with questions that were some variant of "How fast can you get it done?" But despite this having been a focal point in recent weeks, he still didn't seem to process the fact that producing a vaccine means conducting months and months of trials before it can be deployed. He even at one point asked whether the flu vaccine could be used to combat coronavirus.
After Leonard Schleifer, the founder and chief executive of Regeneron, said his company aimed to have 200,000 doses ready by August, Trump asked him, "That means you'd be able to use the vaccine that early?" He added, "So that process would be faster than John's?" referring to another CEO.
After another CEO took a turn, Trump asked him, "So you're talking over the next few months, you think you could have a vaccine?"
The CEO clarified that it would be ready only for phase two of testing at that point. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, added: "Yeah. You won't have a vaccine. You'll have a vaccine to go into testing."
"And how long would that take?" Trump asked. The CEO said it would take months and then head into phase three. "All right. So you're talking within a year."
"A year to a year and a half," Fauci again clarified.
"Well, but, Lenny is talking about two months, right?" Trump said, incorrectly referring to Schleifer's August estimate.
"A little a little longer," Schleifer again clarified. "A little longer."
"A couple of months, right?" Trump pressed. "I mean, I like the sound of a couple of months better, I must be honest with you."
That's when Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar cut in, again emphasizing the difference between being ready for testing and ready to deploy.
"But when you say June phase one initiation, though right? in June, it's not a completed vaccine," Azar said.
OverSeas AG said:
LOL... everyone wants 'out of the box' thinking. They praise Silicon Valley for it, they want it from every board room, companies at least give lip service to it. When Trump tries to press people and ask them for out of the box thinking on this... He is a bad guy.
SMH... What is wrong with him asking questions and pushing people to see if there is some other way that things could be done?
This is baffling only if you are a student, an educator or work in government. Or are affected by TDS, which does tend to affect a lot of students, educators and government workers.unimboti nkum said:
Trump's baffling coronavirus vaccine eventQuote:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/03/03/trumps-baffling-coronavirus-vaccine-event/
How many of them are projects involving human subjects?Furlock Bones said:
in fact, i bet most people on this board have worked for a CEO that constantly pushed project deadlines forward.
No, but I will adopt all the cats from the neighborhood shelter and let them be tested on. Followed by any neighborhood cats I can find.Tanya 93 said:How many of them are projects involving human subjects?Furlock Bones said:
in fact, i bet most people on this board have worked for a CEO that constantly pushed project deadlines forward.
Would you let your child be a first to get the vaccine in June?
Quote:
The streets of Tehran, the capital, are deserted as panicky residents stick to their homes for fear of contagion. But in the holy city of Qom, the site of the first and most significant outbreak in Iran, mosques and shrines are still holding mass worship services for visiting pilgrims despite the Health Ministry's advice.
"Frankly, the unwillingness of the Islamic Republic of Iran to restrict large-scale visits to these shrines is criminal in the case of this illness," said Amir A. Afkhami, a medical doctor and historian at George Washington University who has studied the Iranian response to previous epidemics.
"The government is putting religious prestige and public image ahead of public safety," he said of the leadership's overall response. "It is unprecedented even in the annals of the Islamic Republic."
Dr. Mohsen Basiri, an Iranian physician now in Houston, said that in a conference call on Sunday about emergency supplies his colleagues in Iran had said that security agents forced doctors to fill out false certificates for deaths that appeared to be coronavirus, ascribing them instead to lung or heart failure in order to avoid acknowledging fatalities linked to the epidemic.
"They don't have the means, equipment, money, management or trust of the public to combat an epidemic of this scope," Dr. Basiri said.
At least two Iranian lawmakers have publicly raised similar claims that the authorities are seeking to hide fatalities from the coronavirus by listing other causes on death certificates.
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Gholamali Jaffarzadeh Imanabadi, a lawmaker from Gilan Province near the Caspian Sea, told the Iranian news media on Monday that more than 20 people in his constituency had died, hospitals had reached full capacity and the designated center for treatment of the virus was now turning away patients. In some cases, he also claimed, the local authorities had recorded an alternate cause of death for the victims.
"Based on the numbers, testimonies and proof that we have received, the number of dead and infected people is far higher than what is announced," he complained, calling the official figures "a joke."
"Our officials are not revealing the whole truth about the situation."
Ahmad Amirabadi Farahani, a lawmaker from Qom, raised similar complaints last week, saying in a Twitter posting that staff at two hospitals were falsifying death certificates to minimize the epidemic.
"The doctors at Kamkar and Foghani hospitals are writing that cause of death is respiratory failure," Mr. Farahani wrote, "but they know very well that the deaths are happening in the coronavirus quarantine ward."
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This time, though, Iran's health authorities appeared to have let their guard down, he said.
Reliant on China as its most essential trading partner in the face of the American sanctions, Iran was slow to restrict travel to and from the country after the first reports of the breakout in the central Chinese city of Wuhan in December.
Then Tehran boasted of having sent supplies of domestically produced hospital masks to China, depleting Iranian supplies as other countries were quietly stockpiling their own. Now, Dr. Afkhami said, "its shortage of face masks is self-inflicted."
Am I supposed to care about the cats and the Bernie supporters?flown-the-coop said:No, but I will adopt all the cats from the neighborhood shelter and let them be tested on. Followed by any neighborhood cats I can find.Tanya 93 said:How many of them are projects involving human subjects?Furlock Bones said:
in fact, i bet most people on this board have worked for a CEO that constantly pushed project deadlines forward.
Would you let your child be a first to get the vaccine in June?
We can then move to Bernie supporters.
So Italy or a Washington nursing home?The Fall Guy said:
https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/aph-says-at-least-one-being-tested-for-coronavirus-in-travis-co-risk-is-low-for-spread/
AUSTIN made THE list biayches!!!
And asking the question over and over again when being repeatedly told the same thing doesn't change the time line.OverSeas AG said:I get that... but there is nothing wrong with asking the questions, looking to see if there are better faster ways to do things. That doesn't mean you do them or you ignore the risks. But asking the questions SOMETIMES leads to new way of doing things, and sometimes it does not.Tanya 93 said:How many of them are projects involving human subjects?Furlock Bones said:
in fact, i bet most people on this board have worked for a CEO that constantly pushed project deadlines forward.
Would you let your child be a first to get the vaccine in June?
The people that want to cancel SXSW were right!The Fall Guy said:
https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/aph-says-at-least-one-being-tested-for-coronavirus-in-travis-co-risk-is-low-for-spread/
AUSTIN made THE list biayches!!!
Tanya 93 said:Am I supposed to care about the cats and the Bernie supporters?flown-the-coop said:No, but I will adopt all the cats from the neighborhood shelter and let them be tested on. Followed by any neighborhood cats I can find.Tanya 93 said:How many of them are projects involving human subjects?Furlock Bones said:
in fact, i bet most people on this board have worked for a CEO that constantly pushed project deadlines forward.
Would you let your child be a first to get the vaccine in June?
We can then move to Bernie supporters.
Why wouldn't you let your child be the first in line to be tested?
He is just acting like a CEO and wants things faster. Nothing could go wrong.
That perhaps our President should let the people who know this better than him do what they do.k2aggie07 said:
Would you let your child be first in line to test any drug? No? So what is your point exactly?
God, I need a shower after opening that leftwing **** show link. KXAN has gone to hellThe Fall Guy said:
https://www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/aph-says-at-least-one-being-tested-for-coronavirus-in-travis-co-risk-is-low-for-spread/
AUSTIN made THE list biayches!!!
Incorrect. The mortality rate of the seasonal flu is 0.1%.CDub06 said:
Seasonal flu is closer to .01%. And most of those 3,000 cases don't have outcomes yet. So, no.
You'd actually be surprised. Asking the same thing over and over on schedule often gets people into at least a "well, maybe" mindset. Many people are so confident that they refuse to even think about it unless pushed hard.Tanya 93 said:And asking the question over and over again when being repeatedly told the same thing doesn't change the time line.OverSeas AG said:I get that... but there is nothing wrong with asking the questions, looking to see if there are better faster ways to do things. That doesn't mean you do them or you ignore the risks. But asking the questions SOMETIMES leads to new way of doing things, and sometimes it does not.Tanya 93 said:How many of them are projects involving human subjects?Furlock Bones said:
in fact, i bet most people on this board have worked for a CEO that constantly pushed project deadlines forward.
Would you let your child be a first to get the vaccine in June?
He does seem quite clueless on how this magically can't be produced in a matter of weeks.
