TXK said:

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aginlakeway said:

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TXK said:

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aginlakeway said:

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TXK said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Shanked Punt said:

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The feds are really going to have to step up and cover any and all cost related to coronavirus. This is just insane.

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Why are the feds responsible? Why wouldn't your insurance pay for it just like any other issue?

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The Federal government is going to have to step up and cover the bill to contain and treat this. More important than dropping a couple million more bombs on some foreign country I would say. I don't see how this is debatable. The Feds could easily start by allowing every physician/hospital to bill them back for testing.

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OK. So should the Feds pay for bills associated with other contagious illnesses? Flu? Pneumonia?

Why this disease?

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Sure. I would say the same for anything classified as a pandemic risk. This is the literal definition of why we have governments.

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OK. But why this one to start that policy? Have you posted this when other, more contagious and prevalent contagious diseases have come up? What about the flu? Pneumonia?

It's a slippery slope asking for the government to pay our medical costs. I'd prefer to handle it myself and with my own insurance.

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I don't post my thoughts on every news item... so doubtful that I did.

As regards to slippery slopes and handling things on your own, pandemics disqualify you and others from being able to make that choice. You do not have the right to risk my life.

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wessimo said:

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The percentage of tests coming back positive is a very important indicator in determining how widespread the outbreak is.

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Shanked Punt said:

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aginlakeway said:

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TXK said:

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aginlakeway said:

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TXK said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Shanked Punt said:

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The feds are really going to have to step up and cover any and all cost related to coronavirus. This is just insane.

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Why are the feds responsible? Why wouldn't your insurance pay for it just like any other issue?

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The Federal government is going to have to step up and cover the bill to contain and treat this. More important than dropping a couple million more bombs on some foreign country I would say. I don't see how this is debatable. The Feds could easily start by allowing every physician/hospital to bill them back for testing.

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OK. So should the Feds pay for bills associated with other contagious illnesses? Flu? Pneumonia?

Why this disease?

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Sure. I would say the same for anything classified as a pandemic risk. This is the literal definition of why we have governments.

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OK. But why this one to start that policy? Have you posted this when other, more contagious and prevalent contagious diseases have come up? What about the flu? Pneumonia?

It's a slippery slope asking for the government to pay our medical costs. I'd prefer to handle it myself and with my own insurance.

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We already have procedures in place for disaster relief. This could follow similar precedence.

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BenFiasco14 said:

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No it's not political. If anything it pokes fun at gullible liberals who submit to insane cultural activities to seem "woke"

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Philip J Fry said:

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I and that's why you take personal responsibility and cover yourself with insurance instead of depending on government to bail you out.

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aginlakeway said:

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TXK said:

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aginlakeway said:

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TXK said:

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aginlakeway said:

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TXK said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Shanked Punt said:

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The feds are really going to have to step up and cover any and all cost related to coronavirus. This is just insane.

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Why are the feds responsible? Why wouldn't your insurance pay for it just like any other issue?

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The Federal government is going to have to step up and cover the bill to contain and treat this. More important than dropping a couple million more bombs on some foreign country I would say. I don't see how this is debatable. The Feds could easily start by allowing every physician/hospital to bill them back for testing.

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OK. So should the Feds pay for bills associated with other contagious illnesses? Flu? Pneumonia?

Why this disease?

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Sure. I would say the same for anything classified as a pandemic risk. This is the literal definition of why we have governments.

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OK. But why this one to start that policy? Have you posted this when other, more contagious and prevalent contagious diseases have come up? What about the flu? Pneumonia?

It's a slippery slope asking for the government to pay our medical costs. I'd prefer to handle it myself and with my own insurance.

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I don't post my thoughts on every news item... so doubtful that I did.

As regards to slippery slopes and handling things on your own, pandemics disqualify you and others from being able to make that choice. You do not have the right to risk my life.

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So if I have pneumonia or HIV or tuberculosis or strep or something much more contagious, you think the government should pay for all of my medical costs?

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wbt5845 said:

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If this is a very infectious disease - and if it's (apparently) already fully introduced into the general population - doesn't that mean we're all going to get it?

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VaultingChemist said:

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wbt5845 said:

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If this is a very infectious disease - and if it's (apparently) already fully introduced into the general population - doesn't that mean we're all going to get it?

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Definitely not. Maybe 40% to 70% of adults as estimated by a Harvard epidemiologist. Probably will be much less due to NPIs.

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wbt5845 said:

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VaultingChemist said:

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wbt5845 said:

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If this is a very infectious disease - and if it's (apparently) already fully introduced into the general population - doesn't that mean we're all going to get it?

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Definitely not. Maybe 40% to 70% of adults as estimated by a Harvard epidemiologist. Probably will be much less due to NPIs.

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What is an NPI?

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Rapier108 said:

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Italy should have been locked down weeks ago.

Almost every new case showing up around the world, other than Seattle and perhaps the rest of the west coast is coming out of there.

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Laser Wolf said:

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Stopped by Costco in Austin today and they are out of the following:

Bottled water
Toilet paper
Paper towels
Most canned foods
Bags of rice

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Mr.Infectious said:

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I was shocked they let it go as far as they did last week. Missed that call. Hopefully you're not taking financial advice from anonymous TexAgs posters.....especially me.


Going forward, the FED has signaled pretty clearly they are going to drop rates and Trump is practically begging for negative rates.

The problem is negative rates are a complete unknown and IMO signal a default of the currency. Think about it, an institutional investor is guaranteed to lose money on his negative rate bond.....are you willing to do the same?

Crazy times we are experiencing.

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Laser Wolf said:

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Stopped by Costco in Austin today and they are out of the following:

Bottled water
Toilet paper
Paper towels
Most canned foods
Bags of rice

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aginlakeway said:

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Philip J Fry said:

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I and that's why you take personal responsibility and cover yourself with insurance instead of depending on government to bail you out.

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BINGO

The government should stay out of health care.

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• The government should stay out of health care 99% of the time
• Except maybe when there is an emerging infectious disease that could be stopped if we stop it early (like SARS) but we have to quarantine everyone who has it and that requires people to self-report, which they are less likely to do if they are worried about cost. (So maybe we should consider options while we still can)
• I'd rather not find out if coronavirus actually kills 2% of all people it infects and is more infectious than the seasonal flu, even if I personally can pay for my treatment because all it takes is 1 irresponsible guy sneezing on me and then I'm missing a month of work at best.

dragmagpuff said:

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aginlakeway said:

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Philip J Fry said:

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I and that's why you take personal responsibility and cover yourself with insurance instead of depending on government to bail you out.

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BINGO

The government should stay out of health care.

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Multiple things can be true:

• The government should stay out of health care 99% of the time
• Except maybe when there is an emerging infectious disease that could be stopped if we stop it early (like SARS) but we have to quarantine everyone who has it and that requires people to self-report, which they are less likely to do if they are worried about cost. (So maybe we should consider options while we still can)
• I'd rather not find out if coronavirus actually kills 2% of all people it infects and is more infectious than the seasonal flu, even if I personally can pay for my treatment because all it takes is 1 irresponsible guy sneezing on me and then I'm missing a month of work at best.

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Laser Wolf said:

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Stopped by Costco in Austin today and they are out of the following:

Bottled water
Toilet paper
Paper towels
Most canned foods
Bags of rice

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DX2011 said:

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Do you know when this data is based on? I haven't seen an age based CMR breakdown other than the ones based on Feb 11th China data. I am curious if that has held up.

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