IrishTxAggie said:

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Have had "can't trust the Chinese" drum beaten more here than Tina Turner after Ike went on a coke bender, so what about the WHO?? Can y'all trust WHO or would some of y'all like to keep posting random twitter feeds?

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Considering the WHO was repeating constant Chinese propaganda for weeks? Why would we trust them, ever? I don't even trust the CDC on this.

IrishTxAggie said:

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Have had "can't trust the Chinese" drum beaten more here than Tina Turner after Ike went on a coke bender, so what about the WHO?? Can y'all trust WHO or would some of y'all like to keep posting random twitter feeds?

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I 100% trust the WHO to accept the Chinese numbers without question.

Take that for what it's worth.

They are also accepting Iran's claim of 150+ recovered. Do you trust that number? For reference, that's double South Korean recovered in 1/4 the time.

Is the San Antonio incident indicative of an unreliable virus test or that we still don't understand the incubation period? Tested clean, but...........

k2aggie07 said:

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To me, the primary reason for containment efforts is so that the spread of the virus goes more slowly than it would organically, so that healthcare resources don't get as overwhelmed by an explosion of cases all at the same time.

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Spot on.

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This is exactly correct

The real problem for China:

what happens when you let everyone out but there isn't a cure, vaccine or an effective way to contain it? Wash, rinse, repeat????

I don't think CRISPR or anything about CRISPR babies is even remotely relevant to this.

gigemJTH12 said:

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Have a trip to Vegas planned in a few weeks. I'm assuming this thing is going to be so blown up by then that my wife is not going to let that happen. Vegas is probably the worst place to be right now.

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I'm not going to freak out about this thing when no one on my family is high risk, but I definitely wouldn't take a trip to Vegas. That's just asking for trouble, and will probably be right around the time this thing is really hitting the US hard. I would expect Vegas to be on the leading edge of infections with all the Asian tourists. Be surprised if there's not already quite a bit of cornavirus floating around the strip.

74OA said:

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Is the San Antonio incident indicative of an unreliable virus test or that we still don't understand the incubation period? Tested clean, but...........

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Almost certainly unreliable test. The report yesterday suggested that the positive result was on a sample that has been retained from the subject. She did not come back for a new test after realease.

I was just using CRISPR as a placeholder for gene modification research in China because it is a case we know as factual and already occurred.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8056301/American-supermarket-shelves-stripped-bare-coronavirus-panic.html

I'm really disappointed that no one is panic buying twinkies.

TexasAggie_02 said:

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wasn't something about ACE2 mentioned early on in that smokers were more susceptible? If so, smoking is not as prevalent here as it once was. It might hit the boomers and greatest generation the hardest. Perhaps all the potheads as well.

Does vaping have any effect on ACE2?

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Maybe, but don't know. ACE2 is a cell receptor that is used by coronaviruses as an entry point. A quick search finds a few articles suggesting increased expression of ACE2 in smokers and former smokers, but I don't know if that's well vetted or related to propensity for infection.

More likely, I'd guess that severity in smokers would be related to respiratory compromise in general.

It's a bad placeholder.

Not from a news source but there's a preliminary case in DFW (Ft. Worth, specifically). Tested positive with local test kit, samples sent to CDC for CDC confirmation.

San Antonio Press Conference on Patient that was released:

• Stayed at Hotel by the Airport
• Visited Mall near Airport (North Star Mall)
• Mall officials notified this morning
• Went to food court, ordered food sat by herself
• Exposure assessment based on two criteria
• 1 Time of Exposure
• 2 Distance of Persons at Risk to Exposure
• 18 people identified at local Hospital she was in contact with
• 16-low risk/ 2 Med Risk
• 3 exposures at the hotel - low risk
• Covid Test encompasses 2 tests of individual- upper respiratory and lower, one test came back positive, one test negative.
• Absolutely confident Hotel exposure is confined and contained.
• Holiday Inn at the Airport has been notified and people released.
• CDC plan was to release people who met criteria to be released today
• Received letter from CDC to test a 3rd time and not release people in quarantine
• CDC test results take 48-72 hours for results from CDC
• Advising hospitals to use masks for any patients coming in with upper respiratory symptoms.
• Know how many people were exposed at Holiday Inn, not possible to know exposure at mall
• She did use hotel shuttle
• Went to Mall at 5:30 exited at 7:30..spent most of her time at food court eating by herself.
• [San Antonio blaming CDC for releasing patient "should not have happened"]

AG 2000' said:

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Not from a news source but there's a preliminary case in DFW (Ft. Worth, specifically). Tested positive with local test kit, samples sent to CDC for CDC confirmation.

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I begin to wonder if it is possible the test kits are throwing false positives due to the that the genius it belongs also contains viruses that cause the common cold?

BTW all of China except Hubei is back to work right now.

There are rumors that the virus was supposedly originated from Africa because Wuhan had a military expo. I've not come across any evidence to disprove it but I do remain doubtful.

Oh and if you play any Chinese video games... I think the government is 'requesting' them to give a few more promotions then usual, I've been hit with a deluge of "free" stuff from one of the games I've played starting with the quarantine dates... Bread and circuses

MouthBQ98 said:

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There is a middle ground between total disregard and panic.

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This is 'Merica... pick a side... dafuq outta here with this middle-ground even-keeled BS! /s

annie88 said:

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Yep.

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Yet another "Hai guyz, look at the damage this less serious disease that nobody prepares for does. Don't worry about that more serious disease..."

Can someone please point out ONE vector that the flu is not surpassed by COVID-19.

MouthBQ98 said:

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There is a middle ground between total disregard and panic.

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Where exactly does trolling an online forum lay?

tysker said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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There is a middle ground between total disregard and panic.

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Where exactly does trolling an online forum lay?

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Between asking your favorite color and the airspeed of an unladen swallow of course!

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Can someone please point out ONE vector that the flu is not surpassed by COVID-19.

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Until we have more data it's hard to know, right? Most of the data we've collected is tainted and/or unreliable.

So because of the San Antonio case - the people that have been quarantined at Lackland for last 14 days are not being allowed to leave. They were packed up and ready to go - busses ready to take them and now they are not getting much info and busses have gone away empty. Folks talking to lawyers about unlawful confinement.

See the honeymooners blog on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/fadknz/part_5_im_a_quarantined_diamond_princess/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

annie88 said:

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Yep.

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Or you know we're trying to prevent another serious illness from becoming another seasonal flu? I would much rather deal with only the flu instead of multiple serious respiratory illnesses every damn year. If this means we have to do things we normally wouldn't do for the flu then so be it.

I understood that reference

scottimus said:

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San Antonio Press Conference on Patient that was released:

• Stayed at Hotel by the Airport
• Visited Mall near Airport (North Star Mall)
• Mall officials notified this morning
• Went to food court, ordered food sat by herself
• Exposure assessment based on two criteria
• 1 Time of Exposure
• 2 Distance of Persons at Risk to Exposure
• 18 people identified at local Hospital she was in contact with
• 16-low risk/ 2 Med Risk
• 3 exposures at the hotel - low risk
• Covid Test encompasses 2 tests of individual- upper respiratory and lower, one test came back positive, one test negative.
• Absolutely confident Hotel exposure is confined and contained.
• Holiday Inn at the Airport has been notified and people released.
• CDC plan was to release people who met criteria to be released today
• Received letter from CDC to test a 3rd time and not release people in quarantine
• CDC test results take 48-72 hours for results from CDC
• Advising hospitals to use masks for any patients coming in with upper respiratory symptoms.
• Know how many people were exposed at Holiday Inn, not possible to know exposure at mall
• She did use hotel shuttle
• Went to Mall at 5:30 exited at 7:30..spent most of her time at food court eating by herself.
• [San Antonio blaming CDC for releasing patient "should not have happened"]

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this person was free for like a day and a half and managed to spend 2 hours at a mall food court spreading it. Un****ingbelievable.

Ignorance and foresight are bad bedfellows.

Big Al 1992 said:

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So because of the San Antonio case - the people that have been quarantined at Lackland for last 14 days are not being allowed to leave. They were packed up and ready to go - busses ready to take them and now they are not getting much info and busses have gone away empty. Folks talking to lawyers about unlawful confinement.

See the honeymooners blog on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/fadknz/part_5_im_a_quarantined_diamond_princess/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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SA just had a Presser on It. Read my report.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3090341/replies/56095434

CDC is retesting everyone that was scheduled to leave which will take 48-72 hours for the tests.

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this person was free for like a day and a half and managed to spend 2 hours at a mall food court spreading it. Un****ingbelievable.

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I know; who goes to malls nowadays?

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this person was free for like a day and a half and managed to spend 2 hours at a mall food court spreading it. Un****ingbelievable.

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I know; who goes to malls nowadays?

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Bioterrorists

Makes sense as Sbarro pizza is just another form of bioterrorism

scottimus said:

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Big Al 1992 said:

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So because of the San Antonio case - the people that have been quarantined at Lackland for last 14 days are not being allowed to leave. They were packed up and ready to go - busses ready to take them and now they are not getting much info and busses have gone away empty. Folks talking to lawyers about unlawful confinement.

See the honeymooners blog on Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/fadknz/part_5_im_a_quarantined_diamond_princess/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

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SA just had a Presser on It. Read my report.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3090341/replies/56095434

CDC is retesting everyone that was scheduled to leave which will take 48-72 hours for the tests.

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What a selfish schmuck (the one talking about getting lawyers involved). Oh well, go ahead and file. Congrats, you're on the docket in two weeks, back to your bunks.

AG 2000' said:

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Not from a news source but there's a preliminary case in DFW (Ft. Worth, specifically). Tested positive with local test kit, samples sent to CDC for CDC confirmation.

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What is the source?