China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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Containment was lost at the beginning of this epidemic. All Chinese actions since have been efforts to save face.
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OldAg89er said:

Here is a canary in the mine for you:

The Mormon Church is set to remove all of their missionaries from South Korea -- following self-quarantining all of their missionaries from Hong Kong.

I point this canary out because Mormons have very powerful people in positions in D.C., and certainly have inside information not available to the public about this virus. Additionally, their Church leader is a world-renowned medical doctor that certainly would have insight into this virus that few others would have.

So, if the Mormons are packing up and leaving.....


The Mormon leader is a freaking heart surgeon. He wouldn't have any more insight into this then other doctors. Stop making **** up.
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After following annoucements put out by CDC, they need to pull this guy out of retirement, currently living in the UAE.
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Does TexAgs get enough traffic as a politics forum such that it is really is legitimately likely that there are paid posters, whether by Russia or someone else?

I may have to hit mini mike up
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GE said:

Does TexAgs get enough traffic as a politics forum such that it is really is legitimately likely that there are paid posters, whether by Russia or someone else?

I may have to hit mini mike up
If there is Russia created coronavirus stuff online, it is not being posted here. It would be on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit, and the like.

And it would be no surprise if they are doing it. Russia likes nothing better than to sow chaos.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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I'm too lazy to post the "You guys are getting paid?" Meme.
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mpl35 said:

OldAg89er said:

Here is a canary in the mine for you:

The Mormon Church is set to remove all of their missionaries from South Korea -- following self-quarantining all of their missionaries from Hong Kong.

I point this canary out because Mormons have very powerful people in positions in D.C., and certainly have inside information not available to the public about this virus. Additionally, their Church leader is a world-renowned medical doctor that certainly would have insight into this virus that few others would have.

So, if the Mormons are packing up and leaving.....


The Mormon leader is a freaking heart surgeon. He wouldn't have any more insight into this then other doctors. Stop making **** up.


I said that, as a Doctor, he would have more insight on the virus than "others". Did I say "other doctors"? Nope.

So, nice straw man followed by low information blue stars that fell for it.

I looked up his wiki, he is an M.D., Ph.D.

World renowned for his work.

So, are you asserting that you have more insight than he does into medical issues like a virus? Or, does he have more insight?

So, stop making yourself look pretty stupid. I will concede you have more insight into that than others.

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We need to start a betting pool on this stuff. I would have never guessed Italy would lock down villages before South Korea.

My money is still on SK to lock down at least 1 city before Iran.
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Honestly. Is that too dark. Can you imagine if i wrote a page and gave out the address here.... i wonder...
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OldAg...you think there are 300,000 dead today?
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Quote:

I said that, as a Doctor, he would have more insight on the virus than "others". Did I say "other doctors"? Nope.
That is a lie. You said he "would have insight into this virus that few others would have." Here, I will refresh your memory with your exact quote:

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Additionally, their Church leader is a world-renowned medical doctor that certainly would have insight into this virus that few others would have.

By saying "few others would have" you implied more than just "others." There are 1.1 million medical doctors. So that isn't an elite group. You are also ignoring a large number of Phd types that study these diseases that aren't medical doctors. So the pool of people that he would have to have more insight than is quite large.

So no straman here except for your follow post!

Let's keep going. Being world renowned for his work inventing a heart lung bypass machine to do the first open heart surgery in Utah isn't the same as being an expect in corona-viruses. Nice try though. I have never claimed to have more insight. I didn't venture an opinion on that. That is your strawman. But you dropped him in there to back up your tin foil hat BS. So that is YOUR problem.

But wait - it get's better. You had to look him up (on Wiki no less) AFTER you posted about him as an authority! So you were obviously regurgitating BS you picked up elsewhere without verifying it. Now who looks pretty stupid?

As for my bona fides? I don't have the training in science. However, I don't post BS from my bunker in Texas that I pull from the internet. I do work with numerous people that are actual experts in viruses. Several study corona-viruses in particular. One is one of the few people in the US that studies corona-viruses in bats. He has a bat symposium he is hosting this summer and has done so before. We have a bat colony at work. Several more were at a meeting a month or more ago where the CDC director came and gave them an update on this outbreak. I have a couple of them that received funding to start working on the current outbreak. [My people have done Zika and West Nile as well. I know a guy that was in Africa for Ebola. I know several CDC employees as well.] What I don't do is take everything I see online and freak out and post unsubstantiated BS on texags.

But thanks for playing.

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https://i.imgur.com/McngqWL.mp4

Nice animated graph. Worth a look
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For those who have more expertise in all this, are we encouraged, indifferent or discouraged by the Recovered number in China? (just going off their reported numbers, whether we believe them or not)
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rcb said:

For those who have more expertise in all this, are we encouraged, indifferent or discouraged by the Recovered number in China? (just going off their reported numbers, whether we believe them or not)
We need an accruate body count versus infected rate. That is, we need the mortality rate.

And, as we have read from several reports -- the virus comes back for seconds. So, you may recover the first time -- seems rather deadly when it gets you the second time. Is there a third time? Do people survive a 3rd time?

Unfortunately, the body count is literally up in smoke in China.
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You keep making straw men and simply have no clue. *ignored.
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Madman said:

https://i.imgur.com/McngqWL.mp4

Nice animated graph. Worth a look


That graph scares me.

That's not a joke.
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Teflon Don. said:

Really unfortunate that you have to be a premium member to be able to ignore users.


Oldag must get a commission on premium memberships sold on his threafs
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Old89 quoted own post for 2x the burn
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JJMt said:

PJ, remind me again where you were getting those graphs. I thought you said worldometer, but I cannot find them there.

The information is from worldometer - Sometimes data from the day before gets combined with current day's data but I sort it out within the hour. It's fixed now.
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JJMt said:

PJ, remind me again where you were getting those graphs. I thought you said worldometer, but I cannot find them there.

This is the current corrected data. For about an hour Worldmeter had today's partial data and yesterday's combined. Timezone mix up I'm sure.








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223 vs 3 months in prison....hmm
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Does prison give free medical care?
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So, break quarantine, then go to jail and get everyone sick? Or will they have a special Corona jail?
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JaneDoe02 said:

Madman said:

https://i.imgur.com/McngqWL.mp4

Nice animated graph. Worth a look


That graph scares me.

That's not a joke.

Damn. Ebola had 60+% death rate. Indiscriminate killer there.
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lead said:

JaneDoe02 said:

Madman said:

https://i.imgur.com/McngqWL.mp4

Nice animated graph. Worth a look


That graph scares me.

That's not a joke.

Damn. Ebola had 60+% death rate. Indiscriminate killer there.

I thought Ebola is closer to 90% in Africa. I know the mortality rate for health care workers was 50%.

At least that's what I remember from Pandemic on Netflix.
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PJYoung said:

lead said:

JaneDoe02 said:

Madman said:

https://i.imgur.com/McngqWL.mp4

Nice animated graph. Worth a look


That graph scares me.

That's not a joke.

Damn. Ebola had 60+% death rate. Indiscriminate killer there.

I thought Ebola is closer to 90% in Africa. I know the mortality rate for health care workers was 50%.

At least that's what I remember from Pandemic on Netflix.
Yes, it can be up to 90% depending on the particular strain, which is why it makes a poor pandemic virus. It tends to incapacitate and kill most of its hosts and does spread easily like other viruses (flu, norovirus, rhinovirus, coronavirus, etc.). While Ebola is a nasty bugger, part of what makes it's death rate so high is a complete lack of medical care in areas where it often appears, along with a complete lack of trust in modern medicine, even when it is available. The local witch doctor is often trusted more than an actual medical doctor.
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Charlie Kelley said:

Do all you nut jobs have your bunkers built out yet? Don't forget your air ventilation system

Have you bought your cruise ticket to China yet? Heard you can pick one up real easy. Crazy value for a one month extended...
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