DirtyMikesBoys said:

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Question: In and around Wuhan ~56,000,000 people were quarantined to varying degrees, some very strict, for a long, long time now. If the hospitals are full and wait times to get tested are hours upon hours of waiting as reported, can someone explain to me how China could possibly know how many people are dead or dying in their homes?

Maybe big brother knocks on the door daily to check roll, which is hardly an unlikely scenario I suppose, but if they don't have a detailed roll/status of the 56,000,000, wouldn't it follow that there's an overwhelmingly high probability their infected/fatal numbers are significantly underreported? Hard to count cases and deaths if they're dead laying on the couch.

On the other hand, even if they were checking roll on everyone in lockdown, it would appear favorable for CCP to simply dispose of elderly, young, whoever they find who've succumbed to the Coronavirus in their own homes unable to make it to the hospital, thus the same result, underreported.

TIA

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If we are going to argue, lets do it above board....

That post is from another thread....You know, one I created so people can throw crap against the wall and discuss without muddying up this one.

It actually says in the OP in bold "pure speculation thread"

The post you are referencing is from 2/8 at 8:25am

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3091528/2


Did you think I would forget I posted it?

Well, where have they gone?

VaultingChemist said:

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Looks like night...I tend not to sleep with the lights on.

No, and neither does that change any of the hyperbolic tweets you posted here about how terrible this is, as though it is the beginning of a modern Black Plague or worse.

Again, this isn't quite the 'end of the world' some want to depict, user names aside. If it were, it would be much, much more widespread at this point. My rebuttal to your other thread theorizing about crazy conspiracy theories, and citation of demographic data on China (which the Chicoms are quite well aware of) is just this; to contextualize this for folks casually reading this one.

Have a nice weekend, I'm done here for the day.

Is the insinuation that if your light is off any night, you're dead?

Come on.

yukmonkey said:

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Is the insinuation that if your light is off any night, you're dead?

Come on.

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Of course that is what they're trying to make everyone think.

This is why random Twitter posts are a joke as proof of anything.

yukmonkey said:

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Is the insinuation that if your light is off any night, you're dead?

Come on.

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Plus, don't you know that everyone's last thought before they die is, man, I need to turn out the lights so people know I'm gone.

Coronavirus drug could start production this month: Peter Navarro

https://www.foxbusiness.com/healthcare/coronavirus-drug-treatment-peter-navarro

yukmonkey said:

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Is the insinuation that if your light is off any night, you're dead?

Come on.

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Dont be so basic.

They are dead or have left despite quarantine.

The concern is beyond the number of dead right now because the R levels show pandemic potential. If a majority of the epicenter has escaped their quarantine then that's a disaster

Rapier108 said:

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yukmonkey said:

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Is the insinuation that if your light is off any night, you're dead?

Come on.

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Of course that is what they're trying to make everyone think.

This is why random Twitter posts are a joke as proof of anything.

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Draw your own conclusions. Those people could have moved to another part of China. If the authorities announced they were quarantining the city, and I was able to move someplace safer, I certainly would.

If you don't think it is newsworthy, fine. I do think it is strange, but it could be anti-CCP propaganda. If I could read Chinese, it would help immensely.

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Mr.Infectious said:

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Guys, please take the demographics debate to another thread....

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Look, I know you're having fun with your little 500K views thread here, but really, you posted this just this month about this;

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What if this was a deadman's switch by Q. Soleimani?

What if he had this virus made in an Iranian bio-lab and had instructions to release if he were assassinated. Releasing in the US, Europe, Japan, Western civilization wouldn't be effective due to advanced health systems to identify and contain the outbreak. Releasing in India or other 3rd world countries wouldn't work because they don't have the economic impacts and travel connections. China is the perfect ground zero due to high speed travel, economy, and super high population density. Plus he's one of those true believers in the return of the Madhi.

Granted we are trying a little to fit a square peg into a round hole but it was an interesting side track discussion. We chalked it up to plausible but unlikely.

2nd one was a little more out there and had a longer time horizon. What if this was a world wide Pearl Harbor shot as the beginning of WW3?

Step 1:Chinese deliberately release the virus to be able to 1) activate their military once the spread is large enough, 2) use the crisis to to eliminate internal dissent and 3) eliminate the useless eater portion of their population that they could no longer feed or care for due to the pig Ebola.
Step 2: The economic impacts of China not producing anything grind the world to a halt.
Step 3: China is way ahead of the curve as far as crisis management goes since hey knew it was coming and has at least a six week start on the rest of the world. Plus the authoritarian iron fist to beat people into submission.
Step 4: China stays within its borders and sits back and watch as the virus spreads like wild fire in the 3rd world and as the economic effects shatter the western world. Chaos and civil war reign in France, US, Europe etc. Places like Africa and South America can't handle the Healthcare impacts and get cut off economically.
Step 5: the world burns and starved over the course of a year or two with massive population reduction due to illness, famine, civil war, violence, and suicide.
Step 6: they use the Belt and Road to pick up the pieces around the world and eliminate pockets of resistance. Sure they may have lost 500million of their own BUT they still have a billion to repopulate the world in their own image.


One shot fired, the Chinese have free reign to do what they want throughout the world.

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I get that you want to position this as some sort of concerned outbreak thread, but this is F16 not a CDC board.

Don't posit all kinds of insane hyperbolic tweets/theories and then get mad (or do, but don't whine about it) when folks post actual statistics (demographics) about why/how some sinister Chicom plan isn't behind this whole thing.

The answer is no, the Chinese Communist rulers did not do this on purpose, and they wish they could kill it off, desperately. They don't really have that many people to spare these days, as in truth their wealth depends on productivity/growth.

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Not to mention, he posted this:

Mr.Infectious said:

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Here's a Friday morning hypothetical, Would you consider shooting a "public health official" if they were trying to take your son or daughter away to a quarantine facility? What burden of proof does the PHO have to make before detaining your family member? Are the scenarios different if your kid is in the hospital ICU, in public school or merely playing with friends in the neighborhood playground?



Before I catch a ban....Staff its merely, a hypothetical in the event Trump is literally Hitler and uses the CV to start rounding up folks. I'm not threatening to or encouraging anyone to go shoot up a public health department.

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And this:

Mr.Infectious said:

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Have you started to wonder if the cops, political figureheads and military are contracting the virus at the same rate as the population?

If they don't or are somehow magical immune to the virus, there could be something else happening in all of this.....

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This morning. Mr. Infectuous jumped the shark weeks ago and just ****ing sucks

Mr.Infectious said:

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If we are going to argue, lets do it above board....

That post is from another thread....You know, one I created so people can throw crap against the wall and discuss without muddying up this one.

It actually says in the OP in bold "pure speculation thread"

The post you are referencing is from 2/8 at 8:25am

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3091528/2


Did you think I would forget I posted it?

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Okay, then keep your pure speculation and insane bull**** over in that thread. The ones I quoted above were from this thread, this morning.

Come on don't you know he started this thread and your not allowed to criticize...lol

Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:

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Come on don't you know he started this thread and your not allowed to criticize...lol

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True. The demographics conversations should stop so we can focus on the real issues like whether you would shoot someone trying to round up your kids or whether chinese police are inoculated against the disease. What a ****ing clown.

A National Geographic article on the effects of COVID-19 on victims.

Here is What Coronavirus Does to the Body

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During the third phase, lung damage continues to buildwhich can result in respiratory failure. Even if death doesn't occur, some patients survive with permanent lung damage. According to the WHO, SARS punched holes in the lungs, giving them "a honeycomb-like appearance"and these lesions are present in those afflicted by novel coronavirus, too.

These holes are likely created by the immune system's hyperactive response, which creates scars that both protect and stiffen the lungs.

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Singapore isn't looking all that great.

Is it time to bug out and live off the grid? I really don't want to die from a Chinese super virus.

Zemira said:

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Is it time to bug out and live off the grid? I really don't want to die from a Chinese super virus.

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You should really stop reading this thread if you think it is time to head to the bunker.

DirtyMikesBoys said:

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Singapore isn't looking all that great.

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And this is the kind of comment which does nothing but try to stoke the hysteria.

Rapier108 said:

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Zemira said:

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Is it time to bug out and live off the grid? I really don't want to die from a Chinese super virus.

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You should stop reading this thread if you really think it is time to head to the bunker.

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I was half joking. By the time I think it's time to head to my non-existent bunker it will be too late.

Rapier108 said:

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DirtyMikesBoys said:

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Singapore isn't looking all that great.

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And this is the kind of comment which does nothing but try to stoke the hysteria.

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I believe the Prime Minister of Singapore when he told his citizens "If the numbers keep growing, at some point we will have to reconsider our strategy. If the virus is widespread, it is futile to try to trace every contact. If we still hospitalise and isolate every suspect case, our hospitals will be overwhelmed. At that point, provided that the fatality rate stays as low as the flu's, we should shift our approach."

But I guess the Prime Minister is a fear monger.

As a side comment, Singapore is hot and humid, which is not generally favorable to the spread of the virus.

Saw on the news today they were debunking ways to stop the spread of coronavirus that are currently popular on social media. One that stuck out to me was the reporter saying, 'No, putting two dabs of sesame seed oil in your nose will not stop the spread of coronavirus.'

Now which one of you nincompoops said that as a joke but your essential oil MLM wife took it seriously?

Also sesame oil? Low key racist right there.

Ok, clown shoes. I'm not a doomsday prepper. You ought to read about the situation before looking foolish up there on your high horse. Tell me how, "things don't look good in Singapore" is fear mongering or in any way sensational hyperbole given the current situation? Don't worry, I'll wait.

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Singapore is battling a "very intense outbreak" of the coronavirus and its economic impact on the island is already more severe than that from SARS in 2003, the Straits Times reported, citing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.

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Singapore on Friday reported nine more cases of the deadly Coronavirus, bringing its total number of cases to 67.This is the largest one-day surge so far after the city state recorded eight cases on Thursday.

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Singapore COVID-19 cases as of Feb.14, 2020
Confirmed cases 67
Cases tested negative 764
Cases pending test results 91
Discharged 17

Two nostril dabs of sesame doesn't actually work?! Oh ****

First European death in France.

Chinese tourist, but still.

VaultingChemist said:

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A National Geographic article on the effects of COVID-19 on victims.

Here is What Coronavirus Does to the Body

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During the third phase, lung damage continues to buildwhich can result in respiratory failure. Even if death doesn't occur, some patients survive with permanent lung damage. According to the WHO, SARS punched holes in the lungs, giving them "a honeycomb-like appearance"and these lesions are present in those afflicted by novel coronavirus, too.

These holes are likely created by the immune system's hyperactive response, which creates scars that both protect and stiffen the lungs.

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Lung scarring protects until scarring kills you

Watch out everybody!!!! It's the sheriff of F16!!!!! Give him/her stars to make her/him happy!!!!!

Rapier has turned into one of the more annoying posters. She lets her high star count get to her head. Sad really. She's a trumper but very annoying.

And the original quarantine ends in 4 days - do they start the count over? They gotta get them in another quarantine that is off the ship.