Does that mean stopping all flights from Asian-ish countires?
China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission
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The military prepares for the worst. It is their job.Nuclear Scramjet said:Schu in Mizzou said:
Sen. Josh Hawley was briefed twice yesterday on COVID-19 and he just publicly stated that the Chi-coms are severely under reporting the cases and deaths and have therefore put the rest of the world at much greater risk. He said the US government is preparing for the worst by taking all measures necessary to accomplish that.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/02/13/us-military-prepping-for-coronavirus-pandemic/
The US Military is now prepping for a corona virus pandemic. How often do things like this happen?
Nuclear Scramjet said:Schu in Mizzou said:
Sen. Josh Hawley was briefed twice yesterday on COVID-19 and he just publicly stated that the Chi-coms are severely under reporting the cases and deaths and have therefore put the rest of the world at much greater risk. He said the US government is preparing for the worst by taking all measures necessary to accomplish that.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/02/13/us-military-prepping-for-coronavirus-pandemic/
The US Military is now prepping for a corona virus pandemic. How often do things like this happen?
Bases / Mil always plan for major events even if they don't make headlines.... the fact that all the quarantine locations are on US Mil installations this makes makes sense.
Wfaa is live streaming on facebook.
Press conference starting soon.
Press conference starting soon.
It's a fair point. I'll try to do so when I see something not already posted.KorbinDallas said:Beat40 said:
Outside of economic impact, why is this thread still so focused on China?
How about you know, contributing some news from outside of China yourself?
que es?nhamp07 said:
Wfaa is live streaming on facebook.
Press conference starting soon.
1. This stuff gets loose in North America, it will end up "walking" over a border without containment.
2. The media is already covering supplier mask shortages for medical and dental services in the US. I imagine China was a major manufacturer and supplier. Rationing has begun.
2. The media is already covering supplier mask shortages for medical and dental services in the US. I imagine China was a major manufacturer and supplier. Rationing has begun.
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/nation-world/us-confirms-15th-coronavirus-case-first-in-texas-evacuee/287-930f81ad-4784-4c6b-a285-630fdf553fa0GE said:que es?nhamp07 said:
Wfaa is live streaming on facebook.
Press conference starting soon.
SIAP, Arc GIS view of the known cases:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
It's no secret nor is there a coverup.Quote:
2. The media is already covering supplier mask shortages for medical and dental services in the US. I imagine China was a major manufacturer and supplier. Rationing has begun.
The shortage was triggered by panic buying such as my sister ordering hundreds of dollars in masks from a medical supply company who now has a 1-3 month back order on everything. 3M has actually stopped shipping masks completely because of this.
Looks like the Great Wall is protecting Mongolia, instead of its original intent of keeping them out of China :-)flakrat said:
SIAP, Arc GIS view of the known cases:
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
Nuclear Scramjet said:Schu in Mizzou said:
Sen. Josh Hawley was briefed twice yesterday on COVID-19 and he just publicly stated that the Chi-coms are severely under reporting the cases and deaths and have therefore put the rest of the world at much greater risk. He said the US government is preparing for the worst by taking all measures necessary to accomplish that.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/02/13/us-military-prepping-for-coronavirus-pandemic/
The US Military is now prepping for a corona virus pandemic. How often do things like this happen?
Based on this quote from the article, this has never happened before.
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This includes ensuring that the plans contain procedures for "response, isolation, quarantine, restriction of movement and community based intervention" as well as developing measures to contain and treat those possibly exposed.
I'm afraid the military would find it extremely difficult to quarantine large chunks of populations effectively.
Some very good news, SIAP - the linked WFAA article above says the first evacuation flight from Whahn had 195 people on it. All tested negative and were released from quarantine after 14 days.
You sure that isn't in reference to the military itself? If those first few items were aspects of intervention with the public it doesn't make sense to end with AND community based interventionSchu in Mizzou said:Nuclear Scramjet said:Schu in Mizzou said:
Sen. Josh Hawley was briefed twice yesterday on COVID-19 and he just publicly stated that the Chi-coms are severely under reporting the cases and deaths and have therefore put the rest of the world at much greater risk. He said the US government is preparing for the worst by taking all measures necessary to accomplish that.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/02/13/us-military-prepping-for-coronavirus-pandemic/
The US Military is now prepping for a corona virus pandemic. How often do things like this happen?
Based on this quote from the article, this has never happened before.I'm afraid the military would find it extremely difficult to quarantine large chunks of populations effectively.Quote:
This includes ensuring that the plans contain procedures for "response, isolation, quarantine, restriction of movement and community based intervention" as well as developing measures to contain and treat those possibly exposed.
The deniers are starting to look real bad in this thread.
I didn't say coverup. I said they are covering it, I.e. it is significant enough that it is being reported. The issue is of course hoarders plus a sudden increase in demand on all fronts, but the problems it will cause for even routine medical treatment are very real.
This CDC lady seems a little overly accommodating and sweet. Don't trust her.PJYoung said:https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/nation-world/us-confirms-15th-coronavirus-case-first-in-texas-evacuee/287-930f81ad-4784-4c6b-a285-630fdf553fa0GE said:que es?nhamp07 said:
Wfaa is live streaming on facebook.
Press conference starting soon.
By the time the military enforces its first quarantine on a community here, it will be too late to have prepared.
Do not listen to the 'just the flu' posse.
Do not listen to the 'just the flu' posse.
Because people with PhDs in this field including the more alarmist ones, people who are doing the math, and including the PM of Singapore peg it at 2% at worse. That Nunziato guy is either an idiot or purposely spreading BS.ttu_85 said:Could be. Do you know for sure ?Forum Troll said:Who is this guy, what are his sources, and why should we care how he analyzes things?Nuclear Scramjet said:
Singapore and Japan are going to be the places to watch since their medical systems are top notch.
Postulating a death rate of 16 to 18% at this stage is just fear mongering.
Sorry, too early and need caffeine.
It is on purpose, because they know certain people will lap it up.Snap E Tom said:Because people with PhDs in this field including the more alarmist ones, people who are doing the math, and including the PM of Singapore peg it at 2% at worse. That Nunziato guy is either an idiot or purposely spreading BS.ttu_85 said:Could be. Do you know for sure ?Forum Troll said:Who is this guy, what are his sources, and why should we care how he analyzes things?Nuclear Scramjet said:
Singapore and Japan are going to be the places to watch since their medical systems are top notch.
Postulating a death rate of 16 to 18% at this stage is just fear mongering.
Hell, I have no doubt there are some who want to see a would wide pandemic with billions dead from it.
claym711 said:
The deniers are starting to look real bad in this thread.
Suck an egg till it gets out of control in the US
Wash you d amn hands after taking a leak or pooping
The guy in Washington was released late last week for home recovery and isolation. He was mild. I believe the Chicago cases were released, too.GE said:
Any news on the 14 positive cases in the US? I thought I remembered hearing a couple released from hospital to be monitored at home but not sure.
The Johns Hopkins map, if you click on the dots in the US, will show them as "recovered" if they are. It won't remove them from the map or remove the count from "cases" though, so visually, without details, it makes it look a bit worse than it is.
Interesting to compare this thread's first page with the last several pages.
Snap E Tom said:Because people with PhDs in this field including the more alarmist ones, people who are doing the math, and including the PM of Singapore peg it at 2% at worse. That Nunziato guy is either an idiot or purposely spreading BS.ttu_85 said:Could be. Do you know for sure ?Forum Troll said:Who is this guy, what are his sources, and why should we care how he analyzes things?Nuclear Scramjet said:
Singapore and Japan are going to be the places to watch since their medical systems are top notch.
Postulating a death rate of 16 to 18% at this stage is just fear mongering.
Everywhere outside China is weeks behind them on having an accurate CFR. When people show up with serious symptoms, it's still 2-3 weeks after for it to run it's course on way or the other (recovery or death).
We're still a week to ten days out in Singapore from knowing where those early cases will fall in the live/die column.
Good, like 2 people look bad.claym711 said:
The deniers are starting to look real bad in this thread.
Most people are taking a pretty reasonable wait and see approach with a watchful eye. Why is that a bad thing?
2% in a pandemic is really, really bad.
A really bad flu is 0.1% fatal.
This also seems to acutely affect about 10- 15% of the infected people, meaning 2 or more weeks convalescing, hospitalization, possibly even oxygen. That is weeks not at work, not able to be in public, etc.
A really bad flu is 0.1% fatal.
This also seems to acutely affect about 10- 15% of the infected people, meaning 2 or more weeks convalescing, hospitalization, possibly even oxygen. That is weeks not at work, not able to be in public, etc.
You should go ahead and move to your bunker then.claym711 said:
By the time the military enforces its first quarantine on a community here, it will be too late to have prepared.
Do not listen to the 'just the flu' posse.
Singapore airshow started on 2/11; this is a huge show for the entire region. I know some US companies pulled out. We did not.
https://www.singaporeairshow.com/
https://www.singaporeairshow.com/
What are these "deniers" supposedly denying?claym711 said:
The deniers are starting to look real bad in this thread.
Antivaxers seem to tie in with people who are conspiracy theorists on this whole deal.
I would suggest a Global pandemic with a R0=~2-3 and Death Rate of 2%- 3%. People would state that is crazy speak.
But don't worry, we can go back and quote people....for now lets wait and see if Singapore, Japan, & SAN ANTONIO produce any real data.
But don't worry, we can go back and quote people....for now lets wait and see if Singapore, Japan, & SAN ANTONIO produce any real data.
The 35-year-old guy in Washington almost died. As a last resort, they used an experimental antiviral drug, remdesivir, to treat him.Snap E Tom said:The guy in Washington was released late last week for home recovery and isolation. He was mild. I believe the Chicago cases were released, too.GE said:
Any news on the 14 positive cases in the US? I thought I remembered hearing a couple released from hospital to be monitored at home but not sure.
The Johns Hopkins map, if you click on the dots in the US, will show them as "recovered" if they are. It won't remove them from the map or remove the count from "cases" though, so visually, without details, it makes it look a bit worse than it is.
I mean, yeah, 2% is nothing to dismiss, either. This is pretty freakin' serious.MouthBQ98 said:
2% in a pandemic is really, really bad.
A really bad flu is 0.1% fatal.
This also seems to acutely affect about 10- 15% of the infected people, meaning 2 or more weeks convalescing, hospitalization, possibly even oxygen. That is weeks not at work, not able to be in public, etc.
Also, mind you the death rate might not be as bad here. We know two common things about the acute cases:
1) The elderly
2) Smokers.
There's far less #2 here than in China.
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