It's in Africa. No telling what will happen with that.

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It's in Africa. No telling what will happen with that.

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Oh boy

andyv94 said:

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cbr said:

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It's in Africa. No telling what will happen with that.

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Oh boy

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There are no confirmed cases in Africa at this time.

Some suspected cases have come back negative, others are pending.

Number of sick with Corona virus on Japanese cruise ship almost doubled in past day to 135 cases, up 65 new cases from previous day.


https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/10/804440928/diamond-princess-cruise-ship-has-65-more-coronavirus-cases-in-japan

OldAg89er said:

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Number of sick with Corona virus on Japanese cruise ship almost doubled in past day to 135 cases, up 65 new cases from previous day.


https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/10/804440928/diamond-princess-cruise-ship-has-65-more-coronavirus-cases-in-japan

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I sort of think a bunch will be infected, but I don't think it will be fatal for more than a handful.

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"Wake-up, McFly" Award Winner...

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andyv94 said:

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It's in Africa. No telling what will happen with that.

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Oh boy

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There are no confirmed cases in Africa at this time.

Some suspected cases have come back negative, others are pending.

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Am I the only one that thinks that can't be right? When you have roughly one million Chinese working in Africa which for the most part has horrendous standards of living and sanitation is an afterthought?!

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Rapier108 said:

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andyv94 said:

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It's in Africa. No telling what will happen with that.

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Oh boy

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There are no confirmed cases in Africa at this time.

Some suspected cases have come back negative, others are pending.

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Am I the only one that thinks that can't be right? When you have roughly one million Chinese working in Africa which for the most part has horrendous standards of living and sanitation is an afterthought?!

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There are none reported. Feel free to believe whatever you want.

It's not like facts really matter on this thread anyway.

There were 200,000 air passengers alone between China and Africa in November and December. They may be a asymptomatic, but it's there. The numbers don't seem to be causing problems outside of China though. At least so far.

Those Chinese working in Africa aren't exactly in a position to take frequent weekend holidays back home. They're pretty much stuck there so kind of hard to get infected.

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Rapier108 said:

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andyv94 said:

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cbr said:

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It's in Africa. No telling what will happen with that.

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Oh boy

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There are no confirmed cases in Africa at this time.

Some suspected cases have come back negative, others are pending.

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Am I the only one that thinks that can't be right? When you have roughly one million Chinese working in Africa which for the most part has horrendous standards of living and sanitation is an afterthought?!

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There are none reported. Feel free to believe whatever you want.

It's not like facts really matter on this thread anyway.

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I'm simply stating that in the worse continent (regarding hygiene and living standards) where you have a large influx of Chinese ( I'm sure there are/were lots of Chinese coming and going to Africa on a daily bases) there are no cases at all.

You don't find it odd? I sure as hell do!

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andyv94 said:

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andyv94 said:

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It's in Africa. No telling what will happen with that.

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Oh boy

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There are no confirmed cases in Africa at this time.

Some suspected cases have come back negative, others are pending.

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Am I the only one that thinks that can't be right? When you have roughly one million Chinese working in Africa which for the most part has horrendous standards of living and sanitation is an afterthought?!

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There are none reported. Feel free to believe whatever you want.

It's not like facts really matter on this thread anyway.

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I'm simply stating that in the worse continent (regarding hygiene and living standards) where you have a large influx of Chinese ( I'm sure there are/were lots of Chinese coming and going to Africa on a daily bases) there are no cases at all.

You don't find it odd? I sure as hell do!

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Unless they are in one of the parts of Africa westernized medicine and a hospital laboratory they cannot test for the virus. Only something like 180 labs worldwide that have the resting capability right now.

Sine poena nulla lex.

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Zemira said:

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there is some discussion that Africa could be spared sum effects of CV due to the warmer temps and humidity, which make it harder for the virus to survive and propagate.

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And summer in Houston is looking like a good thing for once in my life.

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summer is Houston is NEVER a good thing.

Under any condition.

I would pick coronavirus over summer in Houston.

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If heat and humidity stop the coronavirus from spreading in Houston, I can learn to deal better.

Sine poena nulla lex.

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C@LAg said:

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Zemira said:

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C@LAg said:

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there is some discussion that Africa could be spared sum effects of CV due to the warmer temps and humidity, which make it harder for the virus to survive and propagate.

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And summer in Houston is looking like a good thing for once in my life.

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summer is Houston is NEVER a good thing.

Under any condition.

I would pick coronavirus over summer in Houston.

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If heat and humidity stop the coronavirus from spreading in Houston, I can learn to deal better.

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slow/limit, not stop. you are still at risk.

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Of course I'm still at risk. I'm the poster child for people who have crazy immune systems. I will take anything that helps limit this nutty virus we don't know much about since it freaks me the **** out. I had pneumonia vaccines and flu shots but I can't do much about this, and I am not hiding in my house.

China only counting individuals who are showing symptoms in their new/suspected cases. So even if they test someone exposed and they come back positive, unless they are hacking up a lung and running a fever, they won't be counted.

Neat.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51453848

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The party secretary for the Hubei Health Commission, and the head of the commission, were among those who lost their jobs.
They are the most senior officials to be demoted so far.
The deputy director of the local Red Cross was also removed for "dereliction of duty" over "handling of donations".
The two Hubei party officials will be replaced by a national figure - the deputy director of China's National Health Commission, Wang Hesheng.

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Bold mine. Power play in motion here folks. It is extremely rare for local officials to be directly appointed by the CPC, even more so when the NHC deputy director (still appears) to hold his previous position.
Look at this too:

Reshuffle of the leadership in emergency response.

EDIT: "Handling of donations" implies embezzlement/corruption.

Sine poena nulla lex.

They do. But we are not privy to the inner communist part workings. Therefore we usually do not know these people in the US. Sometimes you can find their names and their previous positions held on the site of their current posting.

Minor officials are usually "elected" from the local communist party (Province, city, district, etc) and thus not likely to make news unless you are watching news from said area.

http://www.nhc.gov.cn/xcs/yqfkdt/202002/4a611bc7fa20411f8ba1c8084426c0d4.shtml
Also google translate since I'm tired. But mostly correct grammatically.

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At 04:00 on February 10, 31 provinces (autonomous regions, municipalities) and the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps reported that 2478 new cases were diagnosed (2097 in Hubei), 849 cases were severely added (839 in Hubei), and new There were 108 deaths (103 cases in Hubei, 1 in Beijing, Tianjin, Heilongjiang, Anhui, and Henan), and 3536 suspected cases (1814 in Hubei).
On the same day, 716 new cases were cured and discharged (427 cases in Hubei), and 26,724 close contacts were lifted from medical observation.
As of 20:00 on February 10, according to reports from 31 provinces (autonomous regions, municipalities) and the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps, there were 37,726 confirmed cases (among them, 7333 severe cases), and a total of 3,996 discharged patients were cured (1 in Zhejiang Province). A total of 1,016 deaths have been reported, 42,638 confirmed cases have been reported (12 cases in Zhejiang nuclear reduction, 1 case in Jiangxi nuclear increase), and 21,675 suspected cases. A total of 428,438 close contacts were tracked, and 187,728 close contacts were still in medical observation.
A total of 70 confirmed cases were reported from Hong Kong, Macao, and Taiwan: 42 cases in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region (1 death), 10 cases in the Macau Special Administrative Region (1 case was cured and discharged), and 18 cases in Taiwan (1 case was cured and discharged).

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Zemira said:

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C@LAg said:

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C@LAg said:

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there is some discussion that Africa could be spared sum effects of CV due to the warmer temps and humidity, which make it harder for the virus to survive and propagate.

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And summer in Houston is looking like a good thing for once in my life.

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summer is Houston is NEVER a good thing.

Under any condition.

I would pick coronavirus over summer in Houston.

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If heat and humidity stop the coronavirus from spreading in Houston, I can learn to deal better.

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Yep. There's a reason that there hasn't been person-to-person transmissions in the Southern Hemisphere right now. It's Summer there.

It will be interesting to see if things slow down by March, especially in Hong Kong where, climate-wise, it's basically Houston. If warmer temperatures weakens the virus, like it does for flu and colds, we'll have a few months reprieve. I do think it's very possible that it will never really go away. It will stay around forever as a super flu.

So, basically, do your stockpiling in the Summer. Get all your electronics before Winter comes back around. It'll probably take a few more coronavirus cycles, but hopefully businesses will get their act together and diversify manufacturing out of China.

It will thin the herd until we all have had exposure to it and develop antibodies across the population or have been vaccinated if one is developed.

This thing might really stick it to the population that is immune compromised or taking drugs that rely on immune system suppression as a mechanism, even the developed world. The danger is always a mass breakout event that overwhelms local medial resources, such as in Wuhan.

nm.

Africa may be spared due to:

1) Heat & humidity
2) Good air quality outside of metros
3) Low population density in general-
4) poor transportation systems and less mobile.
5) Relatively YOUNG population. This virus mostly seems to get ugly in 50+ and the life expectancy in Africa is so bad they don't have as many elderly people.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/805644/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-sub-saharan-africa/

60 years life expectancy in subsaharan Africa.

India on the other hand....

KidDoc said:

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Africa may be spared due to:

1) Heat & humidity
2) Good air quality outside of metros
3) Low population density in general-
4) poor transportation systems and less mobile.
5) Relatively YOUNG population. This virus mostly seems to get ugly in 50+ and the life expectancy in Africa is so bad they don't have as many elderly people.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/805644/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-sub-saharan-africa/

60 years life expectancy in subsaharan Africa.

India on the other hand....

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Kinda ironic that because they are 3rd world countries the virus probably won't infect as many there.

I would guess the higher population centers who are more westernized be more affected.

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Indonesia Has No Reported Coronavirus Cases. Is That the Whole Picture?

Experts find it astonishing that Indonesia has yet to announce a case despite hosting some 5,000 Chinese tourists a day in Bali before halting flights last week.

The family from Shanghai was vacationing in Singapore last month when they learned that the new coronavirus had arrived there from China.

So they packed up and flew to the world's largest country yet to report a single case of the deadly virus: Indonesia. They landed in Bali, a major destination for Chinese tourists, on Jan. 30 and have no plans to leave.

"People in Bali treat us nicely and are friendly," said Eva Qin, 36, who is traveling with her mother, husband and son. "We weren't given any health test."

Health experts have questioned why Indonesia has not yet reported a single case of novel coronavirus, even though officials were slow to halt nonstop flights from China. Indonesia receives about 2 million Chinese tourists a year, most of them in Bali

China's consul general in Bali said last week that about 5,000 Chinese tourists remained in Bali, including 200 from Wuhan, where the outbreak started.

Indonesia's closest neighbors have all reported cases, including the Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia and Australia.

Five researchers at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health concluded in a study last week that Indonesia and Cambodia, which has reported only one case, should quickly intensify its monitoring of potential cases. Based on a statistical analysis, the disease could have arrived in Indonesia already, the authors concluded.

"So far, Indonesia is the only major country in Asia that does not have a corona case," Indonesia's security minister, Mohammad Mahfud MD, told reporters on Friday. "The coronavirus does not exist in Indonesia."

"Indonesia has many islands," he said. "We have many port cities. They all have different capabilities. I think good hospitals in Jakarta can detect it. But what about the community health center in Flores? Or in Sulawesi? Surely the capability is limited."

Indonesia's health care system is considered underfunded by international standards, with insufficient facilities and too few doctors, nurses and midwives, according to a 2018 report by the World Health Organization.
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[url] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/11/world/asia/coronavirus-indonesia-bali.html[/url]


Must be the tropical environment.....

Interesting video of investigator talking to funeral home director in Wuhan.



Screenshots of translated conversation: