China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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Sid Farkas said:

I gotta remember to wear my tinfoil hat when I check in on this thread


Sorry tinfoil doesn't seal very well. I'd suggest a full body cover of saran wrap...3 layers.
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TAMUallen said:

I don't think that it is that simple. If doctors and nurses are dying AND there is this surge of patients then there's a lack of people available to provide care.

It will be interesting to see how China deals with it. Are they going to seclude and wait for people to die or is there going to be a push to provide care in the newly constructed hospital?


What this looks like is a sacrifice 1 to save many situation, as is a communism tradition. This holding center, looks like a save face move for the Chinese govt and I'm guessing the infected/sick docs are the ones who are going to be treated first (so they can go back and treat others).

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Sid Farkas said:

I gotta remember to wear my tinfoil hat when I check in on this thread
That wont protect you from nCOV-2019.
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Who remembers the FEMA coffins conspiracies?
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Johnny2Fan said:

Who remembers the FEMA coffins conspiracies?


Is that what they called the formaldehyde soaked mobile homes?
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Sid Farkas said:

I gotta remember to wear my tinfoil hat when I check in on this thread
It's not really tin foil. They are very much shutting down factories right now.
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javajaws said:

Sid Farkas said:

I gotta remember to wear my tinfoil hat when I check in on this thread


Sorry tinfoil doesn't seal very well. I'd suggest a full body cover of saran wrap...3 layers.


Dont forget to fully cover mouth nose and eyes. Virus may also transmit via dioxide inhalation.
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will25u said:

If anyone is interested. It is kind of long, but in their opinion WHO has botched this whole situation and has been pandering to the CCP.

I believe these guys are from the USA, but live in China and put out weekly videos on a variety of subject. But this week they tackled the Corona virus.


One is from South Africa, one is from the U.S. And I don't think either one is actually in China right now, but both lived there for many years until recently.
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dallasiteinsa02 said:

The Chinese are sucking wind right now. This virus may get Trump the trade deal he wants.
Or maybe they'll try to leverage it to guilt-trip Trump / the U.S. into more favorable terms.
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2/6 Calculated vs Actual case/death reports





Today's calculated reported was 31,649 cases and 661 deaths.

Actual reported is 30,811 cases and 635 deaths.

Delta of 838 (2.6%) and 26 (4%)

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For those wondering what is in the disinfectant they have been spraying...

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Bleach. And?
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From a medic in GA.

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So honest question...

Why do some of y'all think this is no big deal?

This is spreading way faster than the flu. The precautions people are taking are an order of magnitude greater than precautions taken for the flu.

I don't see shutting out whole countries over the flu. But yet with Corona they are.

Maybe I am just ignorant. But I have been following this thread since the beginning.

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will25u said:

So honest question...

Why do some of y'all think this is no big deal?

This is spreading way faster than the flu. The precautions people are taking are an order of magnitude greater than precautions taken for the flu.

I don't see shutting out whole countries over the flu. But yet with Corona they are.

Maybe I am just ignorant. But I have been following this thread since the beginning.
Sounds like you got it all figured out then.
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will25u said:

So honest question...

Why do some of y'all think this is no big deal?

This is spreading way faster than the flu. The precautions people are taking are an order of magnitude greater than precautions taken for the flu.

I don't see shutting out whole countries over the flu. But yet with Corona they are.

Maybe I am just ignorant. But I have been following this thread since the beginning.




Sounds like we need some poopslap bets in here.
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We did some stupid stuff when swine flu was going around.
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Nothing to this magnitude. Military bases and posts were not being identified asquarantine facilities.
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Civil.Savage said:

Bleach. And?
Benzene?

I had a teacher during a HAZWOPER class that visited China for an Environmental/Health Safety conference. Pretty high strung OSHA type guy. He told a story he was walking around the conference building between sessions and he smelt benzene and started freaking out looking around for a chemical spill. Turns out the Chinese janitor was cleaning the floor with benzene....

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Mr.Infectious said:

Civil.Savage said:

Bleach. And?
Benzene?

I had a teacher during a HAZWOPER class that visited China for an Environmental/Health Safety conference. Pretty high strung OSHA type guy. He told a story he was walking around the conference building between sessions and he smelt benzene and started freaking out looking around for a chemical spill. Turns out the Chinese janitor was cleaning the floor with benzene....




I mean I would laugh but honestly not surprised. I am actually more surprised that they were using something even more dangerous like acrylonitrile or some sort of cyanide compound.
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will25u said:

So honest question...

Why do some of y'all think this is no big deal?

This is spreading way faster than the flu. The precautions people are taking are an order of magnitude greater than precautions taken for the flu.

I don't see shutting out whole countries over the flu. But yet with Corona they are.

Maybe I am just ignorant. But I have been following this thread since the beginning.


Most of us think it is a very big deal in China, but are optimistic that outbreaks in the U.S. will be managed properly.

When we start seeing large numbers of virus transmission between strangers outside of China, with accompanying hospitalizations and deaths, it will be time to follow emergency plans (hopefully everyone has one).
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Thats almost as gross as the reaction you'll find in the mens room at the chicken. Whh would you spray that hell hole down with bleach. Do people not realize bleach and urine bad for baby?
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India is on deck- if they really have 5k+ suspected cases as reported earlier today, then it's going to get real weird real fast.
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On the positive side, if India is about to have an outbreak the number of spam calls I get in a day should drastically reduce.
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will25u said:

So honest question...

Why do some of y'all think this is no big deal?

This is spreading way faster than the flu. The precautions people are taking are an order of magnitude greater than precautions taken for the flu.

I don't see shutting out whole countries over the flu. But yet with Corona they are.

Maybe I am just ignorant. But I have been following this thread since the beginning.
Few have said it is nothing.

What gets mocked is the hysteria and tin foil hat type stuff. Just a few examples are the claims of a 100%/99% kill rate; it is a Soviet/Chinese bio weapon; hundreds of thousands or millions already dead; 4-6+ billion will die; and believing every single thing posted to Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Reddit, etc. no matter how outrageous and without even a shred of evidence to back it up. All someone has to do is post a video to YouTube or Twitter, use a lot of big words and numbers along with some pretty graphs, and people swallow the click bait hook, line, and sinker. No doubt some people are making nice $$$ from their YouTube videos, and laughing all the way to the bank.

There is no rational thought or critical thinking allowed on this topic. I think there is an element which enjoys trying to incite fear and hysteria, and when called out for it, they lose their ***** To use the popular phrase, some just want to watch the world burn.

A example on this page is the supposed medic from Atlanta saying the procedure is "not normal". That is the same procedure that was in place during the Ebola outbreak. So it might not be "normal" under day to day operations, but it is not unprecedented by any means. I went to Scott and White when Ebola was in Dallas and was asked if I had a fever (wasn't sick, hurt my wrist), had been to the areas of Africa where Ebola was active, or if I had been in contact with anyone who had and was now sick.

Of course this reply will draw the same crap I just commented on, which I will not respond to because I refuse to give people an excuse to get flag happy.
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All for show. Wouldn't you be blasting this throughout the interior of a building (where people actually interact) to be more effective.

Let's learn from the Chinese, what not to do.....
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Nuclear Scramjet said:

erudite said:

Zemira said:

If the buildings are near the river, might it be the river that is burning in the photographs?
I highly doubt that.

The Yangtze is not as polluted as the Ohio river.. It's also responsible for like 60% of water supply for China. The gov spends a ton of money cleaning that river.

If someone let that happen heads would roll in the CCP. IF it was someone aligned with Xi he would not survive the leadership challenge...

Let's say theoretically if it was some terrorist group (Let's say Hui or Uyghur since they hate the gov and are the bogeymen there because they are pretty violent at times... Even then I think they are not that dumb). That poisoned/screwed with the river. The amount of dead on both sides would be tremendous, said ethnic group would no longer exist, and the violence would make any genocide in modern history look like child's play. Vlad III Dracula would look like a saint in comparison.

It would be like if Iranians (Randomly chosen, substitute with bogeyman group) burned D.C, shot the president, and burned the constitution on national television and threatened to kill anyone who was not aligned with their cause right after the embassy siege.


The Yangtze is much more polluted than the Ohio river, what an absolute joke to even make this statement. China has zero water quality standards. I do water and air quality permitting all over the US as part of my job and know well just how strict the water quality standards in the US are in comparison to the rest of the world.

It's one thing to claim it's not the Yangtze but it's quite another to make a claim that it's less polluted than US rivers with zero data to back that up. There are regular algae blooms on the Yangtze River and that river is responsible for 55% of the global total of oceanic plastic. The Chinese don't give a damn about the environment and they prove it every day with the massive ecological disaster they are creating. Standards are meaningless in that country.
I should have mentioned that it was a joke. I forget how many times the Ohio has caught fire.

But no, they do pour tons of money in attempting to rectify the situation. How effective that is... Is another story.
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Rapier108 said:

will25u said:

So honest question...

Why do some of y'all think this is no big deal?

This is spreading way faster than the flu. The precautions people are taking are an order of magnitude greater than precautions taken for the flu.

I don't see shutting out whole countries over the flu. But yet with Corona they are.

Maybe I am just ignorant. But I have been following this thread since the beginning.
Few have said it is nothing.

What gets mocked is the hysteria and tin foil hat type stuff. Just a few examples are the claims of a 100%/99% kill rate; it is a Soviet/Chinese bio weapon; hundreds of thousands or millions already dead; 4-6+ billion will die; and believing every single thing posted to Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, Reddit, etc. no matter how outrageous and without even a shred of evidence to back it up. All someone has to do is post a video to YouTube or Twitter, use a lot of big words and numbers along with some pretty graphs, and people swallow the click bait hook, line, and sinker. No doubt some people are making nice $$$ from their YouTube videos, and laughing all the way to the bank.

There is no rational thought or critical thinking allowed on this topic. I think there is an element which enjoys trying to incite fear and hysteria, and when called out for it, they lose their ***** To use the popular phrase, some just want to watch the world burn.

A example on this page is the supposed medic from Atlanta saying the procedure is "not normal". That is the same procedure that was in place during the Ebola outbreak. So it might not be "normal" under day to day operations, but it is not unprecedented by any means. I went to Scott and White when Ebola was in Dallas and was asked if I had a fever (wasn't sick, hurt my wrist), had been to the areas of Africa where Ebola was active, or if I had been in contact with anyone who had and was now sick.

Of course this reply will draw the same crap I just commented on, which I will not respond to because I refuse to give people an excuse to get flag happy.


Thank you for the reply.

It just seems to me that this thing is not your normal run of the mill "flu" type bug. It seems to be spreading a lot fast than flu, and possibly is much deadlier.

I am not freaking out or anything, I just don't feel like this is just a normal"flu" like virus.
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NyT thoughtyhey would help WHO curb misinformation.... along woth some tech giants...


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/health/coronavirus-misinformation-social-media.html
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Japan is really hitting the medal count hard. Must be sweeping all of the Judo and Karate weight classes.
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