China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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scottimus said:

Imagine if Xi died...what would happen to China?

Winnie the Pooh is unbanned?
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rilloaggie said:

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EMY92 said:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-may-transmit-through-digestive-tract

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The novel coronavirus that has sickened thousands globally may transmit through the digestive tract, specifically the fecal-oral route, according to a report.

Scientists from the Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University and the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Science recently discovered "virus genetic material" in stool samples and rectal swabs from some patients, Chinese state media reported, according to Bloomberg.

Some patients infected with the novel coronavirus, 2019-nCoV, had reported diarrhea when they first fell ill, and not a fever, which has been a more common sign of the pneumonia-like illness. The finding is significant because researchers have largely focused on transmission via respiratory droplets from an infected person.

The first of the now 11 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the U.S. had suffered from diarrhea before falling ill with the disease, according to Bloomberg.
I am skeptical of reports from Chinese scientists, but this may be something that corroborates the spread is due to the lack of good hygiene practices.

Also, never get a mint from the mint bowl in a restaurant. You might now get corona-virus.
Is that why some stand on the toilets to drop a deuce?


And others just because they find the "plop" sound more satisfying after a 3 foot drop!
Legends speak of one who can produce a deuce that extends the length of the 3-foot drop, end to end, with no breakage and no "plop", but simply a gentle slide into the water as if you were dipping your toes into a comfortable warm bath after a long workday.
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scottimus said:

Imagine if Xi died...what would happen to China?

Who gives a Xi tea?
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What are y'all talking about?


Nevermind I really don't want to know. Anything new, besides it possibly being a bioweapon again?
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2019 nCov how has killed more (Chinese) than SARS and 11 cases confirmed in USA.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/world/asia/coronavirus-china.amp.html

*Added Chinese
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Dr Campbell predicting actual case numbers closer to 200K and interesting comparison with SARS and MERS
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KorbinDallas said:

2019 nCov how has killed more than SARS and 11 cases confirmed in USA.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/02/03/world/asia/coronavirus-china.amp.html
That's not accurate. SARS killed almost 800 with all but about 50 being in Asia. China and Hong Kong accounted for almost 700. 2019 nCov has killed more Chinese, but it has not surpassed SARS death toll globally.
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Fixed my comment. Through there could already be more deaths, it's not official. I have little doubt It will get there eventually.
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Lurking on this post since page 46... 1st post...

This would seem to support some of the information about mild symptoms initially and then progressing to something much worse.

https://www.kron4.com/health/coronavirus/2-coronavrius-patients-hospitalized-in-san-francisco/
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You've got to listen and analyze what they are saying. If the testing is only on those with severe symptoms (pneumonia/respiratory illness), it's going to sweep through the country over the course of the next few months.

Don't panic, not everyone is going to die. Most will feel like crap and have explosive diarrhea for a couple days but live, recover and build immunity. The unfortunate ones (old, very young, extremely unhealthy, homeless, and compromised immune systems) will struggle with it.

I suggest everyone start changing behaviors now to get ready now to be able to fight off the virus when you come in contact with it.

- Boost your immune system.
- eat healthy
- get sleep
- stay hydrated
- take your vitamins
- research home remedies


You have to take action now to save yourself a world of hurt. When this hits full strength, you will not be able to head to the quack shack and get in and out. It will take hours or days of waiting to see a doctor, if ever.


If you are a father, man up. It's time to realize this isn't going away. Your wife and children should be able to depend on your guidance and wisdom.

If you are a mother, research and understand what to do. Become the care-giver of the family.

If you are single and don't have anyone to rely on, start planning now. Communicate with friends, get each others backs.


We can beat this but it's going to take a community effort.



Farmers fight!
Farmers fight!
Fight! Fight!
Farmers, farmers fight!

Whoop!
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lunchbox said:




This is not for a 2% death rate flu.
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cbr said:

lunchbox said:




This is not for a 2% death rate flu.


No, no it's not.

It may not be end of humanity tin foil biological weapon super AIDS, but let's not be naive either folks.
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NPH- said:

rilloaggie said:

EastSideAg2002 said:

EMY92 said:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-may-transmit-through-digestive-tract

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The novel coronavirus that has sickened thousands globally may transmit through the digestive tract, specifically the fecal-oral route, according to a report.

Scientists from the Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University and the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Science recently discovered "virus genetic material" in stool samples and rectal swabs from some patients, Chinese state media reported, according to Bloomberg.

Some patients infected with the novel coronavirus, 2019-nCoV, had reported diarrhea when they first fell ill, and not a fever, which has been a more common sign of the pneumonia-like illness. The finding is significant because researchers have largely focused on transmission via respiratory droplets from an infected person.

The first of the now 11 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the U.S. had suffered from diarrhea before falling ill with the disease, according to Bloomberg.
I am skeptical of reports from Chinese scientists, but this may be something that corroborates the spread is due to the lack of good hygiene practices.

Also, never get a mint from the mint bowl in a restaurant. You might now get corona-virus.
Is that why some stand on the toilets to drop a deuce?


And others just because they find the "plop" sound more satisfying after a 3 foot drop!
Legends speak of one who can produce a deuce that extends the length of the 3-foot drop, end to end, with no breakage and no "plop", but simply a gentle slide into the water as if you were dipping your toes into a comfortable warm bath after a long workday.
I regret reading this while I happened to be eating a sandwich
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I learned a while back to refrain from eating or drinking anything but water when reading Texags. I also tend to have lunch prior to reading Texags.
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New numbers, 2,143 new, 64 reported deaths. 21k suspected cases.

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NPH- said:

rilloaggie said:

EastSideAg2002 said:

EMY92 said:

https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-may-transmit-through-digestive-tract

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The novel coronavirus that has sickened thousands globally may transmit through the digestive tract, specifically the fecal-oral route, according to a report.

Scientists from the Renmin Hospital of Wuhan University and the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Science recently discovered "virus genetic material" in stool samples and rectal swabs from some patients, Chinese state media reported, according to Bloomberg.

Some patients infected with the novel coronavirus, 2019-nCoV, had reported diarrhea when they first fell ill, and not a fever, which has been a more common sign of the pneumonia-like illness. The finding is significant because researchers have largely focused on transmission via respiratory droplets from an infected person.

The first of the now 11 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the U.S. had suffered from diarrhea before falling ill with the disease, according to Bloomberg.
I am skeptical of reports from Chinese scientists, but this may be something that corroborates the spread is due to the lack of good hygiene practices.

Also, never get a mint from the mint bowl in a restaurant. You might now get corona-virus.
Is that why some stand on the toilets to drop a deuce?


And others just because they find the "plop" sound more satisfying after a 3 foot drop!
Legends speak of one who can produce a deuce that extends the length of the 3-foot drop, end to end, with no breakage and no "plop", but simply a gentle slide into the water as if you were dipping your toes into a comfortable warm bath after a long workday.
Funniest thing I've read all day. I've produced 12-14 inchers, but 36 is quite the feat!
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KorbinDallas said:

New numbers, 2,143 new, 64 reported deaths. 21k suspected cases.




Anyone know where these numbers are being pulled from. I appreciate the simple and up to date breakdown in categories, but verification?
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cbr said:

lunchbox said:




This is not for a 2% death rate flu.


Nope. They are cratering their economy and quarantining a good chunk of their population for a very real event.
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I have to note that these nih links have all been down since this outbreak started.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1326447/

Also, its time for everyone here to read this at least ;

https://fas.org/irp/threat/cbw/nextgen.pdf


https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2019/08/chinas-military-pursuing-biotech/159167/
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Eliminatus said:




Anyone know where these numbers are being pulled from. I appreciate the simple and up to date breakdown in categories, but verification?

They provide their source next to each location on their update site.

https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/
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Ah, thanks.
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Mr.Infectious said:



You've got to listen and analyze what they are saying. If the testing is only on those with severe symptoms (pneumonia/respiratory illness), it's going to sweep through the country over the course of the next few months.

Don't panic, not everyone is going to die. Most will feel like crap and have explosive diarrhea for a couple days but live, recover and build immunity. The unfortunate ones (old, very young, extremely unhealthy, homeless, and compromised immune systems) will struggle with it.

I suggest everyone start changing behaviors now to get ready now to be able to fight off the virus when you come in contact with it.

- Boost your immune system.
- eat healthy
- get sleep
- stay hydrated
- take your vitamins
- research home remedies


You have to take action now to save yourself a world of hurt. When this hits full strength, you will not be able to head to the quack shack and get in and out. It will take hours or days of waiting to see a doctor, if ever.


If you are a father, man up. It's time to realize this isn't going away. Your wife and children should be able to depend on your guidance and wisdom.

If you are a mother, research and understand what to do. Become the care-giver of the family.

If you are single and don't have anyone to rely on, start planning now. Communicate with friends, get each others backs.


We can beat this but it's going to take a community effort.



Farmers fight!
Farmers fight!
Fight! Fight!
Farmers, farmers fight!

Whoop!

There are not that many people that remember the polio epidemic that ravaged so many children in the U.S. in the 40's and 50's and before. This new virus may be bad, but it is not something this country cannot overcome, especially with our resources and technology.
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The reason that the Chinese need to act and quarantine their people and entire cities is because of the God awful population density and the horrible hygiene their people have. There's a reason that you're not seeing a mass spread in the developed nations.
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Most people would be fine. Some few might get some permanent disability from it. The issue is even if it is 0.5% fatal, that is a hell of a lot of people, and it seems to take many people out for a couple of weeks. That's a lot of downtime. We can't afford to take this lightly, and it would be much better if we can keep it away from us until a vaccine is in production.
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MouthBQ98 said:

Most people would be fine. Some few might get some permanent disability from it. The issue is even if it is 0.5% fatal, that is a hell of a lot of people, and it seems to take many people out for a couple of weeks. That's a lot of downtime. We can't afford to take this lightly, and it would be much better if we can keep it away from us until a vaccine is in production.
Vaccine? That wont be for years
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/coronavirus-update-vaccine-expected-in-phase-1-trial-within-months-who-to-reconvene-on-thursday-2020-01-29

Trial in a Couple of months
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IrishTxAggie said:

The reason that the Chinese need to act and quarantine their people and entire cities is because of the God awful population density and the horrible hygiene their people have. There's a reason that you're not seeing a mass spread in the developed nations.
Environmental factors like this are what can impact the R0 in one country vs another. It does seem the spread in the United States is lower than China.

However, the US now has 11 cases. That's double the 5 cases we had last Thursday.

Whereas China's official numbers are growing about 40% per day, the US is growing about 20% per day.

Hopefully, that will taper off with aggressive treatment and quarantine, but it's too early to say it can't happen here.
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11 cases for a virus that's been around since mid-December? Seems the spread in the United States is lower than one China?
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IrishTxAggie said:

11 cases for a virus that's been around since mid-December? Seems the spread in the United States is lower than one China?
First case in US was on January 19th (16 days ago).

~20% growth rate per day raised to 16 days = 1.2^16 = 11.97

Actual cases on 2/3 = 11
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I know the math, but the virus itself was first detected in mid-December. How many people have traveled through the Hubei province since then and are in the US?
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IrishTxAggie said:

11 cases for a virus that's been around since mid-December? Seems the spread in the United States is lower than one China?


Not everyone will get infected. Those that may have caught it, may not have insurance or money to go to doctor.

If they did go to the doctor, what was the screening process 14 days ago?
- "Doc, I'm sick"
- " describe your symptoms"
- cough, fever, mucus buildup, sore throat"
- "have you been to China lately"
- "No"
-" you have a cold...."

Then they ride it out at home if the symptoms are mild. Plus it takes time to spread incubate and cause severe symptoms.

Give it time. Once it gets into schools and nursing homes you'll see big jumps. At which time our Govt will slow roll the announcements to quell fear and try to avoid panic (as they should).
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