China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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Not sure I trust gnews.org to break a story like that
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Has there been any talk on this thread of Dr. Charles Lieber?
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Nuclear Scramjet said:

https://gnews.org/89749/

China to admit they are at fault and the disease came from their level 4 lab? Wow.

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A reliable source told Miles Guo today that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) will admit to the public of an "accidental" leak of lab-created virus from a P4 lab in Wuhan to put blames on "human errors". But the official announcement is still being finalized.

Initially, the Chinese communist's propaganda machines were blaming the virus on wild animals like bats by showing many videos of people eating bats.

(Please click here to view the bat-eating images which are too disturbing to be shown here. )


If so then they deserve massive economic punishment for this. Having a level 4 biolab and having procedures this lax is unacceptable. What an absolute joke this country is.
If this is the case and tens of millions die, they deserve your username.
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Nuclear Scramjet said:

https://gnews.org/89749/

China to admit they are at fault and the disease came from their level 4 lab? Wow.

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A reliable source told Miles Guo today that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) will admit to the public of an "accidental" leak of lab-created virus from a P4 lab in Wuhan to put blames on "human errors". But the official announcement is still being finalized.

Initially, the Chinese communist's propaganda machines were blaming the virus on wild animals like bats by showing many videos of people eating bats.

(Please click here to view the bat-eating images which are too disturbing to be shown here. )


If so then they deserve massive economic punishment for this. Having a level 4 biolab and having procedures this lax is unacceptable. What an absolute joke this country is.
Holy Chernobyl! The sequencing of the virus must have been shown to be identical to the one they were doing research on.
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Yeah I'm not buying that story one bit. No way they will admit it unless there is irrefutable proof that they can't cover up.
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Wheatables02 said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:

https://gnews.org/89749/

China to admit they are at fault and the disease came from their level 4 lab? Wow.

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A reliable source told Miles Guo today that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) will admit to the public of an "accidental" leak of lab-created virus from a P4 lab in Wuhan to put blames on "human errors". But the official announcement is still being finalized.

Initially, the Chinese communist's propaganda machines were blaming the virus on wild animals like bats by showing many videos of people eating bats.

(Please click here to view the bat-eating images which are too disturbing to be shown here. )


If so then they deserve massive economic punishment for this. Having a level 4 biolab and having procedures this lax is unacceptable. What an absolute joke this country is.
If this is the case and tens of millions die, they deserve your username.
Wow if this proves true, if you do business with China in any way and you didn't move it yesterday the economic impact is going to be bad. You think Trump was fighting with everything bin the trade war with tariffs? Trump is not going to a happy President.
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If that's true, they'll come out with a vaccine in record time (bc it was already developed).
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claym711 said:

If that's true, they'll come out with a vaccine in record time (bc it was already developed).


Only reason they would admit it. To become the saviors.
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claym711 said:

If that's true, they'll come out with a vaccine in record time (bc it was already developed).


You think they're that responsible?
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wessimo said:

Yeah I'm not buying that story one bit. No way they will admit it unless there is irrefutable proof that they can't cover up.


I think that is what is happening. The proof keeps growing such that it's becoming impossible for them to deny it.
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claym711 said:

If that's true, they'll come out with a vaccine in record time (bc it was already developed).


If they were so incompetent that they released it accidentally then do you think they will develop a vaccine for it? Their program is a joke.
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I think they're corrupt enough to release it on purpose then save the public from it In an attempt to destroy public unrest
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China to admit they are at fault and the disease came from their level 4 lab? Wow.


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Kind of long thread (click to open) but short version is 8 doctors were arrested in early January for spreading rumors of a new kind of pneumonia. Turns out it was ncov

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Well this doesn't sound good-- a domestic flight in Australia.

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claym711 said:

I think they're corrupt enough to release it on purpose then save the public from it In an attempt to destroy public unrest


Perhaps, but I'm pretty sure the only thing China appears to care about nationally with regards to medicine is whether you can grind it up, if it comes from an endangered animal, and if it gives you sexual power.
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LMAO
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What the hell is gnews? Has this been backed up by any reputable source or are y'all just running with **** flung on the wall?
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Is the g silent? Pronounced 'news?'
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7,811 cases out of 7,500,000,000 people, is only 0.000104% of the world population. Go to bed yall
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JJMt said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:


If that data is accurate, doesn't that indicate that the growth rate is slowing? The virus has been growing at the rate of 50% confirmed cases per day, but from yesterday to today it only grew by about 25-30%.
The problems are:

1. We don't know how many are waiting to tested.
2. We don't know how many have been testing and are waiting to get results back.
3. We don't know if China has enough test kits to test everyone they suspect of having it.
4. We don't know how many have already died that China either recorded a different cause of death for, disposed of without even recording their deaths, or are dead somewhere that no one knows about.

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AG 2000' said:

JJMt said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:


If that data is accurate, doesn't that indicate that the growth rate is slowing? The virus has been growing at the rate of 50% confirmed cases per day, but from yesterday to today it only grew by about 25-30%.
The problems are:

1. We don't know how many are waiting to tested.
2. We don't know how many have been testing and are waiting to get results back.
3. We don't know if China has enough test kits to test everyone they suspect of having it.
4. We don't know how many have already died that China either recorded a different cause of death for, disposed of without even recording their deaths, or are dead somewhere that no one knows about.


Don't worry re #4. I'm sure they're keeping a close eye on all those they welded into their homes.
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Illuminaggie said:

AG 2000' said:

JJMt said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:


If that data is accurate, doesn't that indicate that the growth rate is slowing? The virus has been growing at the rate of 50% confirmed cases per day, but from yesterday to today it only grew by about 25-30%.
The problems are:

1. We don't know how many are waiting to tested.
2. We don't know how many have been testing and are waiting to get results back.
3. We don't know if China has enough test kits to test everyone they suspect of having it.
4. We don't know how many have already died that China either recorded a different cause of death for, disposed of without even recording their deaths, or are dead somewhere that no one knows about.


Don't worry re #4. I'm sure they're keeping a close eye on all those they welded into their homes.


Or listed as dying from pneumonia and creamating.
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crowman2010 said:

7,811 cases out of 7,500,000,000 people, is only 0.000104% of the world population. Go to bed yall


I found one of the people who doesn't understand exponents
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MouthBQ98 said:

Humans think linearly and relatively few of us are intelligent enough to appreciate the implications of exponential functions.
Some of these projections are Bull **** they assume the rate exponential growth will be constant over time. It wont. Counter measures will slow the RATE of growth.
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Feel free to believe this or not, here it goes.

Just got off the phone with my best friend (great Aggie, and 100% american) who spent significant time in China (both business and missionary work) and my friend is fluent in mandarin. Friend has maintained connections in China, one is a low level member of the communist party and one is a doctor. (This is purposefully vague to protect from any possible retaliation)

From the doctor who is from a major city (not Wuhan), they are working more than 24 hour shifts to keep up with patients and are completely overwhelmed. Doctors are being pulled from other cities and assigned to Wuhan. You can say no, but it's the equivalent of going AWOL. The cases are being underreported by several times. The internet is being censored like never before, and they claim restrictions are getting tighter by the hour.

From the party member, he substantiated the story that the virus did come from one of the level 4 labs. He did say that he doesn't believe that the party would ever admit to this fact. If someone from the party did publicly come out, they would be in a world of trouble

Take it for what you will, I trust my direct source with my life and any of my family members.
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EKUAg said:

Illuminaggie said:

AG 2000' said:

JJMt said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:


If that data is accurate, doesn't that indicate that the growth rate is slowing? The virus has been growing at the rate of 50% confirmed cases per day, but from yesterday to today it only grew by about 25-30%.
The problems are:

1. We don't know how many are waiting to tested.
2. We don't know how many have been testing and are waiting to get results back.
3. We don't know if China has enough test kits to test everyone they suspect of having it.
4. We don't know how many have already died that China either recorded a different cause of death for, disposed of without even recording their deaths, or are dead somewhere that no one knows about.


Don't worry re #4. I'm sure they're keeping a close eye on all those they welded into their homes.


Or listed as dying from pneumonia and creamating.
#5 China has a history of lying out its ass. See SARS
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crowman2010 said:

7,811 cases out of 7,500,000,000 people, is only 0.000104% of the world population. Go to bed yall


So if the number is 20,000 in two days is it still a nothing burger? What about 100,000 in a week from now? I'm not panicking or anything but still worth following.
Whoop!
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crowman2010 said:

7,811 cases out of 7,500,000,000 people, is only 0.000104% of the world population. Go to bed yall
Yep it will stop right here at 7,811. Nothing to see.
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https://medium.com/@siradrianbond/coronavirus-2019-ncov-part-1-d6a338eed7c5

An hour long article on the the theory this came from the Chinese lab.

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Chinese scientists, researchers, and doctors examining the emergent 2019-nCoV Coronavirus report that the new viral menace appears to be "a recombinant virus between the bat coronavirus and an origin-unknown coronavirus. The recombination occurred within the viral spike glycoprotein, which recognizes cell surface receptor." But Prof. Zhengli appears to have worked with recombinant Coronavirus derivations involving viral spike proteins for over a decade at Wuhan Institute of Virology, all the way back to 2006 and up to as recently as December, 2019 the very month that 2019-nCoV Coronavirus was first reported as having infected visitors at Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market just down the road from her laboratory!

In fact, on the day before the new coronavirus would find its first victims just 8.6 miles away at the market on December 12, 2019, Prof. Zhengli and her team published the study entitled Molecular mechanism for antibody-dependent enhancement of coronavirus entry on December 11, 2019.



And immediately after this study was published literally the following day the first victims became infected with what would soon be named Coronavirus 2019-nCoV began to get infectedjust a few miles away from Prof. Zhengli's laboratory. And as The Sun reports, victims of the new coronavirus are infected via a strong binding affinity to a human protein called ACE2," in precisely the identical manner as Prof. Zhengli's just-discovered "novel molecular mechanism" identified (or engineered) literally weeks if not days before. Do you believe in coincidences?

Let's say that's just a coincidence Prof. Zhengli published a study or two specifically on bat coronaviruses. Have there been others?

How much time you got? The above study, specifically relating to human host cell binding and entry of coronavirus infection, and published the day before the first viral infections were reported at a location adjacent Prof. Zhengli's laboratory, is far from the only study in which she has directed on the subject. The scientist's entire virology history is rife with hands-on experience with coronaviruses, with especial attention devoted to understanding their spike protein properties, as related to potentiality of human cell entry and infection.


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So we are left with the following pressing, unanswered questions about Prof. Zhengli, the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, and the Coronavirus 2019-nCoV outbreak in Wuhan:

Why are the Chinese authorities seemingly ignoring the Wuhan Institute Virology's contemporaneous coronavirus study (culminating in a Dec. 11, 2019 report, published the day before the outbreak) conducted at the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, located just 8.6 miles distant from the claimed epicenter of pandemic origin, Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market? Why is the media not reporting this?

Why are most media reports covering the coronavirus still misreporting the source of the virus' genome sequence as snakes instead of bats?

Since the Wuhan Institute of Virology has already isolated live, novel SARS-like Coronavirus SL-CoV-WIV1 from bat droppings in 2016, and such virus has been confirmed to invade the host cells through the ACE2 of human beings just like the new, emergent Coronavirus 2019-nCoV have the two coronaviruses been compared with each other? Was there a vaccine developed from Coronavirus SL-CoV-WIV1 that can be tested on victims of the latest outbreak? After all, it's been about four years now.

Has any formal investigation been launched into any role the Wuhan Institute of Virology (and specifically, its Classification P4 Biosafety Laboratory) may have played in the pandemic outbreak?

Did the new coronavirus penetrate the biosecurity measures of Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory? Did some bats mount a successful escape?

Did any scientists, researchers, professors, observers, students, or other staff persons working at or visiting the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory visit the Huanan Seafood Market in the first twelve days of December, 2019?
Since the original technology for viral confinement at the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory was developed in France, and since most of its actual, functional equipment was imported from France has the laboratory received ongoing certification inspections from French officials, given its lengthy, ongoing activities using Class 4 pathogens (P4) the most virulent viruses that pose the highest risk of aerosol-transmitted person-to-person infections? If so, where are the certification test results?

Has the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory been regularly inspected and audited by Chinese government health officials, especially by Li Bin, minister of the National Health and Family Planning Commission? If so, where are the inspection and audit results?

Could there have been either a staff person or visitor who smuggled out the coronavirus from the laboratory? (After all, a Chinese national was just arrested at Harvard University for attempting to smuggle research vials back to China at the same time when the Coronavirus 2019-nCoV outbreak started.)

At any time did Prof. Zhengli Shi who simultaneously currently holds the multiple titles of Senior Scientist and Principal Investigator, Director of the Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases, Director of BSL-3 Labatory, Director of the Committee of Biosafety, Director of Chinese Academy Sciences (CAS) Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, and Vice Director of BSL-4 Laboratory at Wuhan Institute of Virology, CAS ever work directly or indirectly for the CCP military services or military intelligence community?

Did Prof. Zhengli previously or does she currently co-conduct, coparticipate, collaborate, or collude with CCP military service members or military intelligence members?
Do members of the CCP military services or military intelligence contribute or participate in any manner or conduct viral research at the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory?

Did Prof. Zhengli or any other faculty member at the Wuhan Institute of Virology take possession, either illicitly or officially, of any biological substance, whether pathogen, vaccine, or other biomatter, originating from the United States or Canada?

Why did the US National Institute of Health (NIH) grant Prof. Zhengli $665,000 in 2014 to fund her study, The ecology of bat coronaviruses and the risk of future coronavirus emergence? What did the US receive in return?

Why did the United States Agency of International Development grant Prof. Zhengli $559,500 to fund her study, Emerging Pandemic Threats PREDICT 2_China? What did the US receive in return?

Why did Prof. Zhengli receive funding from U.S. Department of Defense, the U.S. Defense Threat Reduction Agency (the agency which deals specifically with Weapons of Mass Destruction), the U.S. Biological Defense Research Directorate of the Naval Medical Research Center, and the Department of Atomic of the Government of India?

What other professional relationships with U.S. defense agencies does Prof. Zhengli have currently, or previously, in any capacity?

When Prof. Zhengli received a visa to the United States to present at the Cell Symposium: Emerging and Re-emerging Viruses 2017 conference in Arlington, Virginia, did she visit the Pentagon or meet with Pentagon officials, since it was less than a mile away?

When Prof. Zhengli received a visa to the United States to present at the US-China Workshop on Frontiers in Ecology and Evolution of Infectious Diseases conference at UC Berkeley in 2018, did she visit Federal research facility, Lawrence-Berkeley-Livermore Laboratory in particular, the Department of Energy's Joint Genome Institute or meet with government officials, since it was only a mile and a half away?

Prof. Zhengli's C.V. indicates she received a visa to the United States to present at the U.S.-China Dialogue on the Challenges of Emerging Infections, Laboratory Safety and Global Health Security conference on January 17, 2018, in Galveston, Texas. However, such a conference appears to not have existed. For what purpose did she really come to Galveston perhaps to visit the Galveston National Laboratory, a high security National Biocontainment Laboratory housing several Biosafety Level 4 research laboratories, one of the only 15 biosecurity Level 4 facilities in the United States and the largest one in the world located on an academic campus? Was this apparently imaginary conference merely a ruse for a surreptitious rendezvous?

Of Prof. Zhengli's 130 published scientific studies, 5 of them are not to be found anywhere. Why are they not public? Are they classified?

Has Prof. Zhengli (or any other staff, resident or guest scientists, researchers, students, visitors, or others) at the Wuhan National Biosafety Laboratory, or at Wuhan Institute of Virology in general, collaborated, participated with, colluded with, or in any way professionally acted in concert or collusion with, or in any way worked with or for, the World Economic Forum, the U.S. Center for Disease Control, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Pilbright Institute, the European Commission, the World Health Organization, the Biotechnology and Biological Sciences Research Council, or the John Hopkins Center for Health Security?

Prof. Zhengli recently (January 23, 2020) claimed to know very little about the latest epidemic outbreak, including basic biology, animal source, or any specific treatment, and indicated she doesn't know if ACE2 targeting drugs could treat Coronavirus 2019-nCoV infected victims. How can this be the case, given that she has studied human ACE2/coronavirus interaction for many years even most recently in her study immediately preceding the outbreak as reported in Prof. Zhengli's study published the day immediately preceding the outbreak? "The full-length genes of MERS-CoV spike (GenBank accession number 415 AFS88936.1), SARS-CoV spike (GenBank accession number AFR58742), human DPP4 416 (GenBank accession number NM_001935.3) and human ACE2 (GenBank accession 417 number NM_021804) were synthesized (GenScript Biotech)."
Considering Prof. Zhengli is the recipient of millions of dollars in grants and salaries, commands one of the world's leading, most advanced biosafety laboratories, has performed innumerable research studies into coronaviruses for three decades and counting what vaccines, to date, has she successfully produced? Has she produced any successful coronavirus vaccines at all? If so, where are they and how have they been publicly administered?


There's a lot more info in there as well.
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KorbinDallas said:

Feel free to believe this or not, here it goes.

Just got off the phone with my best friend (great Aggie, and 100% american) who spent significant time in China (both business and missionary work) and my friend is fluent in mandarin. Friend has maintained connections in China, one is a low level member of the communist party and one is a doctor. (This is purposefully vague to protect from any possible retaliation)

From the doctor who is from a major city (not Wuhan), they are working more than 24 hour shifts to keep up with patients and are completely overwhelmed. Doctors are being pulled from other cities and assigned to Wuhan. You can say no, but it's the equivalent of going AWOL. The cases are being underreported by several times. The internet is being censored like never before, and they claim restrictions are getting tighter by the hour.

From the party member, he substantiated the story that the virus did come from one of the level 4 labs. He did say that he doesn't believe that the party would ever admit to this fact. If someone from the party did publicly come out, they would be in a world of trouble

Take it for what you will, I trust my direct source with my life and any of my family members.


I don't think anyone is shocked by this. It's pretty much confirming what we all believe. Probably why zero citizen videos have come out in more than 48 hours.
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There are lots of - like, many many many - low level communist party members. A low level communist party member wouldn't know something like that. If they did, it would simply be common knowledge.
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k2aggie07 said:

There are lots of - like, many many many - low level communist party members. A low level communist party member wouldn't know something like that. If they did, it would simply be common knowledge.


The low level stuff came from me. I don't know enough about the structure of the government over there to know his precise level. He's not a street sweepers and he's not a mayor but works in the government.
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