China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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Article is a day old and holy hell take a look at that websites other publishings. I'd say they're not exactly up there on the credibility

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When will China put some damned regulations on their meat disease markets? If not for their citizens, for the rest of us.
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cbr said:

So we still are not getting any news or warnings. Good.

For those inclined to freak out, the latest from lanset appears to give you all you need:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-01-25-coronavirus-hits-15-fatality-rate-83-infection-rate.html



I'll preface this by saying I think it's a good idea to keep aware of the situation and be prepared for the worst. That said, if you are quoting that site as gospel, I'm not sure you can be taken seriously. They quote lancet in this article but another of their trending articles listed below calls lancet outright unscientific. That site is the epitome of click bait.
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I read the lancet article. That is not click bait.

While the numbers are not mature, 83/15 is way into pandemic territory, if they hold up.

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cbr said:

So we still are not getting any news or warnings. Good.

For those inclined to freak out, the latest from lanset appears to give you all you need:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-01-25-coronavirus-hits-15-fatality-rate-83-infection-rate.html
The lancet article was posted on page 14 of this thread by foleyt.
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rilloaggie said:

cbr said:

So we still are not getting any news or warnings. Good.

For those inclined to freak out, the latest from lanset appears to give you all you need:

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-01-25-coronavirus-hits-15-fatality-rate-83-infection-rate.html



I'll preface this by saying I think it's a good idea to keep aware of the situation and be prepared for the worst. That said, if you are quoting that site as gospel, I'm not sure you can be taken seriously. They quote lancet in this article but another of their trending articles listed below calls lancet outright unscientific. That site is the epitome of click bait.


Mike Adams is WAY OUT on the fringe as a source. Take his reporting w a massive dose of salt. Divide those quoted by 3 or 4 and you'll likely get an accurate account.
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Take cover, you're about to get flamed.
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Should i start researching some links of the ridiculous **** he's posted over the years. He's a charlatan.
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I didn't know lancet bf this but it appears to be a reasonable news outlet.
This is a new lancet article iirc.

Who knows whether this will become a big problem here. The lack of news is encouraging so far.
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Given that it's a lack of news form a country that's not known for sharing honest information and closed over 40 million people worth of cities I'm still skeptical. That's like "California's closed, moose out front should've told you."
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I flew from Krabi, Thailand to Yangon, Myanmar last night and there was definitely more health related security than in my previous trips.

In Yangon I had to walk through thermal scanners and fill out a form stating that I had not been in China within the previous 14 days and that I had no symptoms of the flu.

Krabi Airport was a CF as there were two flights headed to Bangkok filled with Chinese returning from New Year at the same time as my flight; dust masks and latex gloves everywhere.

In my opinion, there is no other time where you will appreciate western culture more than when you are in a Southeast Asian airport filled with Chinese.
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foleyt said:


Japanese don't piddle around too much, and they don't have these silly ideas about offending from discriminating. Even so, there are complaints the response should have been faster with two cases only even.
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VaultingChemist said:




So this entire thing has turned into a gigantic nothingburger?
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Ducks4brkfast said:

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So this entire thing has turned into a gigantic nothingburger?
Well I personally think the numbers being released from China are bull***** Do you quarantine 45+ million people for a 100 dead?

So until there is legitimate knowledge about the scope of the virus from outside China I will be worried.
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Zemira said:

Ducks4brkfast said:

VaultingChemist said:




So this entire thing has turned into a gigantic nothingburger?
Well I personally think the numbers being released from China are bull***** Do you quarantine 45+ million people for a 100 dead?

So until there is legitimate knowledge about the scope of the virus from outside China I will be worried.
. Yes. You do if you are China.
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Think the next 7-10 days will be crucial for this thing.

If it's got pandemic potential, then you should see flare ups in the places where people have flown. Then it's game on.
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Ducks4brkfast said:

VaultingChemist said:


So this entire thing has turned into a gigantic nothingburger?
Doesn't look like nothing to me:
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So this entire thing has turned into a gigantic nothingburger?
The figures being released by China show that more people have died than have been cured, so it is really difficult to know the true extent of the outbreak, except that it is growing exponentially.

Imagine being sick with pneumonia for a couple of weeks, being kept alive in ICU, and the doctors can give you almost nothing to fight the disease.
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Chinese government set up a website to report other people that report "fake news" aka hysteria or unsanctioned reports.

Basically turning each other in if they panic or report things. Chinese government cracking down hard.
Suppose I was an idiot. Suppose I was a member of congress. But, I repeat myself.
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FYI...

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Wuhan today is considered the political, economic, financial, commercial, cultural and educational center of Central China.[17] It is a major transportation hub, with dozens of railways, roads and expressways passing through the city and connecting to other major cities.[24] Because of its key role in domestic transportation, Wuhan is sometimes referred to as "the Chicago of China" by foreign sources.[3][4][5] The "Golden Waterway" of the Yangtze River and its largest tributary, the Han River, traverse the urban area and divides Wuhan into the three districts of Wuchang, Hankou and Hanyang. The Wuhan Yangtze River Bridge crosses the Yangtze in the city. The Three Gorges Dam, the world's largest power station in terms of installed capacity, is located nearby.

While Wuhan has been a traditional manufacturing hub for decades, it is also one of the areas promoting modern industrial changes in China. Wuhan consists of three national development zones, four scientific and technological development parks, over 350 research institutes, 1,656 hi-tech enterprises, numerous enterprise incubators, and investments from 230 Fortune Global 500 firms.[25] It produced GDP of US$224 billion in 2018. The Dongfeng Motor Corporation, an automobile manufacturer, is headquartered in Wuhan. Wuhan is home to multiple notable institutes of higher education, including Wuhan University, which was ranked third nationwide in 2017,[26] and the Huazhong University of Science and Technology.


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Wuhan is an important center for economy, trade, finance, transportation, information technology, and education in China. Its major industries include optic-electronic, automobile manufacturing, iron and steel manufacturing, new pharmaceutical sector, biology engineering, new materials industry and environmental protection.

China Railway Wuhan Group manages the Wuhan Railway Hub. Wuhan Railway Hub is considered one of the four key railway hubs of China.[156] The city of Wuhan is served by three major railway stations: the Hankou Railway Station in Hankou, the Wuchang Railway Station in Wuchang, and the Wuhan Railway Station, located in a newly developed area east of the East Lake (Hongshan District)

With the opening of the Hefei-Wuhan high-speed railway on April 1, 2009,[157] Wuhan became served by high-speed trains with Hefei, Nanjing, and Shanghai; several trains a day now connect the city with Shanghai, getting there in under 6 hours. As of early 2010, most of these express trains leave from the Hankou Railway Station.

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scottimus said:

Chinese government set up a website to report other people that report "fake news" aka hysteria or unsanctioned reports.

Basically turning each other in if they panic or report things. Chinese government cracking down hard.
Commies gonna commie. It's like they have a book to follow...
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Why air travel from China needs to be stopped now.....




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That graphically shows why tens of millions are on lockdown in China.
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That's not good.....Chinese GDP is going to take a big hit. Economic ripples going to be felt globally.

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Coronavirus R0

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We estimated the mean R0 of 2019-nCoV ranging from 3.30 (95%CI: 2.73-3.96) to 5.47 (95%CI: 4.16-7.10) and being 3.98 (95%CI: 3.19-4.92) if the reporting efforts doubled after the diagnostic protocol released on January 17, 2020.
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Mr.Infectious said:

That's not good.....Chinese GDP is going to take a big hit. Economic ripples going to be felt globally.




I am starting to think that is why the rush to build these triage facilities. This is more about maintaining visual control and the economy.
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Aggiebrewer said:

When do they stop letting travelers from China into US?

I mean what is the metric CDC follows?

Sorry if I missed this being answered previously


Probably when it's too late... Still too early to tell if it's just going to be a huge killer or just an economic issue but I for one don't trust the government to make good decisions. IMHO 1/2 of tgem are way too focused on impeaching Trump to do anything else.
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foleyt said:




This is where the US will get hit the most IMO. The economic impact and ripple waves will be costly
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