China Coronavirus Outbreak Spreads; Hundreds Infected As Human-To-Human Transmission

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8192015/Fifty-one-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-South-Korea.html

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Fifty-one patients who recovered from coronavirus in South Korea have tested positive again, raising fears the virus can be reactivated.

The patients - from the country's worst-hit city, Daegu - were put in quarantine after being diagnosed with the virus, then tested positive again days being released.


Now we have confirmation outside of China that reinfection is a thing. This does not bode well for recovery or any sort of return to normal. Recovery is going to take a lot longer than expected if this thing keeps on coming back like this.
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No, we don't have confirmation. It's much more likely that testing was not accurate than reinfection is occurring.
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wtf

no one said it was racist
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Did you read the article, or did you read the headline?

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C@LAg said:

cone said:

wtf

no one said it was racist
you absolutely implied it with your comment. the virus is indiscriminate. it is just as Jekyll to ravage brown neighborhoods,
or lower class white neighborhoods
or upper class white/black/brown neighborhoods.



Eh... I'm not sure that's true.

A neighborhood with multi-thousand square foot homes on large lots, with one or more automobiles in every garage, is a LOT less likely to see rapid contagion than a neighborhood comprised of low-end multi-family housing where individuals predominantly travel through tight community spaces on foot.

That has nothing to do with race. But when members of one race are much more likely to live in one of those environments than another, it becomes somewhat predictive.
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Bregxit said:

Nuclear Scramjet said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8192015/Fifty-one-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-South-Korea.html

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Fifty-one patients who recovered from coronavirus in South Korea have tested positive again, raising fears the virus can be reactivated.

The patients - from the country's worst-hit city, Daegu - were put in quarantine after being diagnosed with the virus, then tested positive again days being released.


Now we have confirmation outside of China that reinfection is a thing. This does not bode well for recovery or any sort of return to normal. Recovery is going to take a lot longer than expected if this thing keeps on coming back like this.
No we don't.

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Professor Hunter highlighted that conventional coronavirus tests can give the wrong result 20 to 30 per cent of the time.

He believes the test the South Korean patients were given before being released from quarantine wrongly showed they had recovered, when they were actually were still infected.



Then why do we keep seeing the same situation in multiple areas? If the tests are this faulty then it calls into question numbers everywhere.
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OldArmy71 said:

Did you read the article, or did you read the headline?
Of course not, because the headline is DOOM while the article isn't.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Then why do we keep seeing the same situation in multiple areas? If the tests are this faulty then it calls into question numbers everywhere.
You are right, it does. A lot of it is subjective at this point.
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C@LAg said:

the point is in the large cities there ARE ALSO large groups of poors of other races. there are large clumps of blacks, whites, yellows, etc.
They would be just as equally likely to succumb to this as poorer blacks.

and many mid and upper classes of all races ALSO live in fairly dense residential places (see NY).

OP focused just on blacks, and that is definitely racist because it ignores reality.



It's the same situation in every city currently under lockdown. Blacks are disproportionately affected in cities. It's not racism to point this out. Europe is seeing an identical problem in their cities. It's because they are ignoring quarantine while everyone else is following it.
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Nuclear Scramjet said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8192015/Fifty-one-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-South-Korea.html

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Fifty-one patients who recovered from coronavirus in South Korea have tested positive again, raising fears the virus can be reactivated.

The patients - from the country's worst-hit city, Daegu - were put in quarantine after being diagnosed with the virus, then tested positive again days being released.


Now we have confirmation outside of China that reinfection is a thing. This does not bode well for recovery or any sort of return to normal. Recovery is going to take a lot longer than expected if this thing keeps on coming back like this.


No we don't, abd that's not what the article claims
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Lots of interesting data with this whole thing. There are a lot of videos coming out of Ecuador that look like Wuhan.
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C@LAg said:

the point is in the large cities there ARE ALSO large groups of poors of other races. there are large clumps of blacks, whites, yellows, etc.
They would be just as equally likely to succumb to this as poorer blacks.

and many mid and upper classes of all races ALSO live in fairly dense residential places (see NY).

OP focused just on blacks, and that is definitely racist because it ignores reality.


No, it does not ignore reality.

Yes, people of all races do live in various types of housing environments. But the people of any given race are not equally distributed among those housing environments.

All other things equal in the United States, in urban and suburban areas, blacks are much more likely than whites to live in high density, multi-family housing where foot travel through common areas is required.

P(randomly selected white lives in such an area) <<< P(randomly selected black lives in such an area)



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"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:



kinda like the Star of David in Nazi Germany? Amazing
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We're struggling to run 120,000 tests a day, and this guy wants to do 3,000 times that?!
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Rapier108 said:




The guy even looks a little Nazi-ish...
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Anyone tracking how well the other parts of the world are handling CV?
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This should work out well for them.
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I believe Trump said it best...****hole countries
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When Iran is holding someone accountable for ethics...then damn.
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cone said:



this is pretty concerning

strike that, highly concerning
I think you may have provided a partial answer as to why the CFRs in the U.S. are so high.

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The disparity is reflected across the state, where black people account for 41% of Covid-19 deaths, despite making up 14% of the population of Illinois.
CBS News reporting that one NY hospital has mostly black men in the ICU.
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What the Racial Data Show

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In Michigan, black Americans comprise 14.1 percent of the state population, but an ungodly 40 percent of coronavirus deaths. In Washtenaw County, home to Ann Arbor, 48 percent of residents hospitalized with the coronavirus are black, though black people make up only 11 percent of the county. In Illinois, the infection rate among black Americans is twice their percentage of the state population. In North Carolina's Mecklenburg County, which includes Charlotte, black people comprise 32.9 percent of the residents, but 43.9 of the confirmed coronavirus cases, as of March 30. In Milwaukee, black Americans make up 26 percent of the county, but nearly half of the infections and a maddening 81 percent of deaths as of Friday.
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The only two U.S. areas in worse shape than New York City and southwest Georgia are in southeast Louisiana. Orleans Parish, known for the city of New Orleans, is 60.2 percent black. Its staggering infection rate of 892.1 per 100,000 people on Saturday was higher than the infection rates of New York City, Los Angeles, and Miami combined. At 38 deaths per 100,000 people, Orleans Parish's death rate is higher than Albany's. Thirty miles west of New Orleans is St. John the Baptist Parish, where the black population is 57.8 percent. If we exclude counties with only a single death, St. John the Baptist Parish has the second-highest COVID-19 death rate in the nation: an unutterable 39.1 deaths per 100,000 people.

This Atlantic article provides some racial data on how the coronavirus pandemic seems to be hitting people of color the hardest.

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it's profoundly sad
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What's sad about it specifically? The virus is not more deadly to black people.

It's infecting them at a high rate due to the opportunity to pass infection on.
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@ScottGottliebMD does not realize the flip side of Texas is more testing and less hospitalization indicates a state with more poosays.
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How can we turn lower confirmed cases into a boogeyman? News media: hold my beer
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Mr.Infectious said:




This is proof we need to open back up. They are now hoping this was worse than it is.
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Mr.Infectious said:


LOTS of green behind him ...
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