I just learned that Jussie was in the original movie The Mighty Ducks.

BadMoonRisin said:

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I just learned that Jussie was in the original movie The Mighty Ducks.

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If you believe being molested as a kid increases your chances of being gay (I do) then this is interesting. Kids in movies are common victims.

Madman said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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I just learned that Jussie was in the original movie The Mighty Ducks.

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If you believe being molested as a kid increases your chances of being turning gay (I do) then this is interesting. Kids in movies are common victims.

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FIFY to try and make a little more sense

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drcrinum said:

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https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/06/21/judge-to-appoint-special-prosecutor-to-jussie-smollett-case-prosecutor-could-reinstate-charges/

Well, well...

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BadMoonRisin said:

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I just learned that Jussie was in the original movie The Mighty Ducks.

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Maybe he should have 'quacked' the teacher instead of fabricating a fake crime...

Is Smollett entitled to a refund?

I would like to point out that going to the original source in that tweet is worth a few looks.

I'm torn on this one. While he clearly was given a sweetheart deal he should have never been given, the idea that an agreed-to deal can be set aside and prosecution reinstated long after the case was dismissed troubles me (even though this is admittedly a very unique circumstance). So, despite the joy I would get out of his deal being revoked, I'm not sure this is a good precedent to set. IMO, it is the prosecutor's office which should have to answer for this mess.

I thought the charges were simply dismissed. I didn't realize he had actually agreed to a plea deal.

drcrinum said:

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https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/06/21/judge-to-appoint-special-prosecutor-to-jussie-smollett-case-prosecutor-could-reinstate-charges/

Well, well...

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..well

Little Smollie's having trouble with his look
you little semi mini b-list demagogue
Ouch! what a terrible performance, throw the book
You can't cry your way out of this, man

Yet, you thought that you really could outsmart
everyone on the outside
but the special prosecutors' gonna tear you apart
You'll never win, you can't you're too

Whiny

combat wombat said:

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I thought the charges were simply dismissed. I didn't realize he had actually agreed to a plea deal.

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That's another thing that was hokey, the non-plea-deal-plea-deal. The indictment was nolle prossed, dismissed and there was no plea nor even nolo contendere. Very strange.

JCA1 said:

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I'm torn on this one. While he clearly was given a sweetheart deal he should have never been given, the idea that an agreed-to deal can be set aside and prosecution reinstated long after the case was dismissed troubles me (even though this is admittedly a very unique circumstance). So, despite the joy I would get out of his deal being revoked, I'm not sure this is a good precedent to set. IMO, it is the prosecutor's office which should have to answer for this mess.

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It's not like he was tried and acquitted, and you even admit he was given preferential treatment he should not have been given. Such deals SHOULD be set aside and prosecution reinstated because leaving them be does nothing to prevent them from happening again. You don't look at corruption in the legal system and say, "Well, shucks. What's done is done. Too late to do anything about it now." You carry through with justice and don't let corrupt deals stand. For that very reason this sets great precedent.

If the deal can't, or shouldn't be, made by one party, then the other party is not entitled to their end of it. The entire agreement is null and void. Smollett is getting no more and no less than what he deserves and is due. There is nothing wrong here.

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

Seems there may be a robbery/murder incident where nothing is actually stolen in the near future. Either that, or a suicide by 4 shots to the back of the head.

So what happens to the prosecutor and DA?

JCA1 said:

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I'm torn on this one. While he clearly was given a sweetheart deal he should have never been given, the idea that an agreed-to deal can be set aside and prosecution reinstated long after the case was dismissed troubles me (even though this is admittedly a very unique circumstance). So, despite the joy I would get out of his deal being revoked, I'm not sure this is a good precedent to set. IMO, it is the prosecutor's office which should have to answer for this mess.

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This explains it well...

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1. From where an elected official derives his power from is important, and it's what makes us a constitutional republic. When a state's attorney is appointed by a governor, the governor is elected by the people, and invested with the power to appoint states attorneys, so the states attorneys' power to prosecute derives from the people, albeit indirectly. In Illinois, states attorneys are elected directly, so their power derives directly from the people.

2. There is a specified procedure for recusal of states attorney and for appointing a special prosecutor for the cases the attorney has recused herself from. Kim Foxx attempted a fake, sham recusal, a non-recusal recusal, and did not follow this procedure. She tried to pretend she was recusing herself while just giving the case to her direct subordinate -- someone who cannot be said to be "independent" of her, as she's his boss. He knows her mind,and he knows what she wants him to do. And he's incentivized to please her.

3. So, when Kim Foxx executed this illegal, unconstitutional maneuver of appointing a fake special prosecutor who was really just her flunky carrying out her wishes, that fake special prosecutor did not have any actual authority deriving from the law or the people in an election.

4. Therefore, her deputy's decision to let Smollett off the hook without even an admission of guilt was done without any actual force of law. It was basically lawless, and can be, and should be, ignored.

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I'm just shocked that a judge in Cook County ruled this way. With exception to the uproar from the CPD, the rest of legal system seemed to be bribed (with or without cash consideration). This case seemed to run the typical corrupt democrat machine way in Chicago that has been the standard the last 100+ years in that city.

Zemira said:

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I'm just shocked that a judge in Cook County ruled this way. With exception to the uproar from the CPD, the rest of legal system seemed to be bribed (with or without cash consideration). This case seemed to run the typical corrupt democrat machine way in Chicago that has been the standard the last 100+ years in that city.

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They know everything. So it isn't all that surprising to me. Live by the Chicago PD, lose your career by the Chicago PD.

Not much has changed since Capone's days, just that the bedfellows changed. Judges aren't openly bribed but they are reined in when needed.

Yeah I try to stay out of Chicago politics. From an outsider it just seems like they are all corrupt.

Zemira said:

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Yeah I try to stay out of Chicago politics. From an outsider it just seems like they are all corrupt.

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My best friend in law school was from Chicago and practiced law there for many years (retired to Florida a few years back). The tales she told were chilling and she was in commercial real estate, not criminal law. She did lunches and closings, not arraignments and jury trials but the same corrupt practices were there for her to hurdle as well.

If he does try the suicide gesture, then his track record with this sort of thing suggests that he'll screw it up and die unintentionally. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

agent-maroon said:

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If he does try the suicide gesture, then his track record with this sort of thing suggests that he'll screw it up and die unintentionally. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

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Agreed...this narcissistic phony would never try to off himself, drug OD for sure.

I don't even care if he gets prosecuted at this point if they roast the corrupt people that tried to shove this farce through.

BadMoonRisin said:

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Calling it now, this guy is going to attempt suicide or a drug OD to try and make people feel sorry for him in hopes of being sent to rehab instead of prison.

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Nah... we'r bout to fine out he goin be a ******...

Ranger #007 said:

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I don't even care if he gets prosecuted at this point if they roast the corrupt people that tried to shove this farce through.

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I'll bet good money that no one, including Jussie, is ever going to face any music for this.