Brett Kavanaugh rape allegations

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Jeff Flake just went on record saying he supports a vote to confirm if the accuser isn't willing to speak on Monday.
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FroWins said:

captkirk said:

Grain of salt and whatnot




Cue the praying boy and dog pic...



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Bo Darville said:

Jeff Flake just went on record saying he supports a vote to confirm if the accuser isn't willing to speak on Monday.
He did? That's quite a turnaround.
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Bo Darville said:

Jeff Flake just went on record saying he supports a vote to confirm if the accuser isn't willing to speak on Monday.
I'd say that's that.

She'd better pop up quick or else this is all going to blow over and be forgotten.

Or, perhaps, the Democrats realized they chose a terrible witness and prep sessions pretty much always end in meltdowns or hopelessly damaging testimony.
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blindey said:

Bo Darville said:

Jeff Flake just went on record saying he supports a vote to confirm if the accuser isn't willing to speak on Monday.
I'd say that's that.

She'd better pop up quick or else this is all going to blow over and be forgotten.

Or, perhaps, the Democrats realized they chose a terrible witness and prep sessions pretty much always end in meltdowns or hopelessly damaging testimony.
So that's why Feinstein is blocking a subpoena, you think?

Makes sense as to why Flake just threw in the towel, however. (Or maybe his constituents have been bombarding his offices with protests.)
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Grassley should say "Either we have confirmation by noon on Wednesday that she is appearing for a hearing on Monday or we're having a vote this Thursday."
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etcetera said:

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My guess (not a stretch), this was planned and orchestrated for months. They likely expected this response and 100s of other possibilities. Someone has a decision tree / playbook they are following or being directed to follow.

This has the fingerprints of Hillary and Obama all over it.

Its a cold civil war w/o question. They can't get rid of trump but they can try to steal the bench.
My guess is you are wrong.
Meh, neither of you are guessing.

Which brings me to my reason for posting:

It's a undeniable fact that for at least the last 50 years, Democrats have practiced "the ends justify the means" in their every political activity. Chief among the leadership in this culture changing effort has been Hillary and Bill Clinton, Bill Ayers, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy,and the list goes on.

So noble is the cause for which they battle (Progressive-ism, Socialism, etc) that literally anything they do, in the name their cause is perfectly justified. That is their "Religion", and their sincere (if deluded) belief!
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blindey said:

Bo Darville said:

Jeff Flake just went on record saying he supports a vote to confirm if the accuser isn't willing to speak on Monday.
I'd say that's that.

She'd better pop up quick or else this is all going to blow over and be forgotten.

Or, perhaps, the Democrats realized they chose a terrible witness and prep sessions pretty much always end in meltdowns or hopelessly damaging testimony.


Like a good lib she's been waiting on her thrice daily email blast not realizing she's the subject
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Tailgate88 said:

Grassley should say "Either we have confirmation by noon on Wednesday that she is appearing for a hearing on Monday or we're having a vote this Thursday."


Grassley has already formally cancelled Thursday's vote.
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Bo Darville said:

Tailgate88 said:

Grassley should say "Either we have confirmation by noon on Wednesday that she is appearing for a hearing on Monday or we're having a vote this Thursday."


Grassley has already formally cancelled Thursday's vote.
Cancel the Monday hearing and schedule the vote instead. SCOTUS session opens the first Monday in October. Now the first week or so is normally just housekeeping matters and scheduling for the remainder of the session and Kavanaugh not being confirmed by then wouldn't be a disaster but getting him confirmed (or not) before then would be better. Have the vote and let they chips fall where they may.

Either way, the tactics of the Dems here will be great fodder for Trump to hammer during the midterms.
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Dems have played this as far as they can and they know it. But mission accomplished. They can use the "accused rapist" sits on the Supreme Court theme for midterms, 2020 and when RBG kicks it. Rally their base and raise money. The reputation of a good man ruined - they don't care. Ends justify the means. And liberalism is a mental disorder.
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aggiehawg said:

blindey said:

Bo Darville said:

Jeff Flake just went on record saying he supports a vote to confirm if the accuser isn't willing to speak on Monday.
I'd say that's that.

She'd better pop up quick or else this is all going to blow over and be forgotten.

Or, perhaps, the Democrats realized they chose a terrible witness and prep sessions pretty much always end in meltdowns or hopelessly damaging testimony.
So that's why Feinstein is blocking a subpoena, you think?

Makes sense as to why Flake just threw in the towel, however. (Or maybe his constituents have been bombarding his offices with protests.)
I think you're right on Flake -- he probably got an earful from his constituents. Also likely that he was on the receiving end of a reading of the riot act from local Republican bar associations.

But yeah, my gut says that Fenstein blocking the subpoena and Ford ignoring the invite means she's a terrible witness. It's a really weak look for Fenstein otherwise. It makes sense that she'd be a bad witness. She's an academic from a soft field with a whole lot of skeletons that she tried to sweep out of the closet.

And I think it means that after the fact, this tactic is not polling well with anyone outside of the true believer/SJW wing of the left.
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Feinstein gone to crawfishing- " do not know if truthful"- vote already.
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Owlagdad said:

Feinstein gone to crawfishing- " do not know if truthful"- vote already.
What?
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aggiehawg said:

Owlagdad said:

Feinstein gone to crawfishing- " do not know if truthful"- vote already.
What?


Crawfishing in east Texas vernacular= lying, squirming, changing stories, letting truth out a little at a time in hopes of saving your ass- she has said that she did not know if lady was truthful or not today
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Aaah, thanks. I got the crawfishing part just had missed the statement by Feinstein.
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johnnyblaze36 said:

Here's the best analysis I've seen yet on the matter and well worth the watch.


Big Al 1992
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Here ya go
Rockdoc
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Holy crap on a cracker!
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Hold the vote Monday a be done with it. We elected Trump for the Supreme Court nominations.
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Wut?
Big Al 1992
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And good lord, CNN and Acosta are the worst. I'm sure they have "teams" as he says combing thru videos for both sides.
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"I have no say"

Bull***** You are on the committee, ****. Unfortunately for America, you do have a say.
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Thank you for the link.

Sooo, my oh my! Feinstein thinks Ford is a nut case (and reading between the lines) not likely to show up voluntarily.

blindey was right. They tried to do prep on her and she performed very poorly.
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I'm thinking there may be some dems(not on the committee) that really dont appreciate what's been going on. Don't approve of the dirty tactics.
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Rockdoc said:

I'm thinking there may be some dems(not on the committee) that really dont appreciate what's been going on. Don't approve of the dirty tactics.
I don't buy Dem Kool-Aid. Would suggest you refrain from doing so as well.
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I'm just trying to find SOME good in a couple of them.
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aggiehawg said:

They tried to do prep on her and she performed very poorly.
Thanks, Hawg

And I don't just mean poorly. I mean every time they started a practice session, it ended prematurely with Ford doing one of the following:

  • Sobbing (not just getting watery/teary eyes. That can make a witness look sympathetic);
  • Foaming with rage;
  • Frequently swearing at person asking questions;
  • Some combination of all of the above.

But the short story is that even under simulated cross examination, she cracked like a butt.

The only other explanation is that the truth might not align with what she alleged.
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Big Al 1992 said:

Here ya go



Where are our residents???
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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It's over.

Collins has her cover now via Feinsteins statement.

Vote this guy in.
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Quote:

I'm just trying to find SOME good in a couple of them.
You'll have better luck finding diamonds in a bull's arse.
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Rockdoc said:

I'm just trying to find SOME good in a couple of them.


So you are Diogenes?



Or Don Quixote?

Either way, futility.

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Prediction: there will be a second 11th hour surprise Friday afternoon or shortly after the committee vote that Ford is willing to testify.
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TriAg2010 said:

Prediction: there will be a second 11th hour surprise Friday afternoon or shortly after the committee vote that Ford is willing to testify.
Feinstein and Flake are convinced she won't. And her attorney was all over cable news yesterday but now is radio silent? No.

Whatever plan the Dems had was not going to work convincingly with her as the prime witness. And that would have severe backsplash on Feinstein and other Senate Dems if they trotted her out and she crashed and burned under questioning.

My .02.
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Makes you wonder if the rumor of a similar Gorsuch letter is real.
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