im so glad you spoke to this because ive been wondering for a couple of days now if the SCOTUS could just change the game by delaying the start of the session. If that is seriously in play, then he's good as confirmed.aggiehawg said:No. Kavanaugh is going to see this through to a vote, no matter what.JAS61 said:
Kavanaugh needs to make an ultimatum to Grassley - Cut the BS right now or I'll withdraw.
We elected these numbnuts to call the shots, not defer to the Democrats. Outside of Gorsuch, the GOP has done nothing the past two years but give the Democrats everything they want.
Enough.
I have said a few times that Chief Justice Roberts controls the calendar on SCOTUS. None of the current SCOTUS member can be pleased with what is happening. (Even RBG doesn't like it.) Plus Kagan and Kav have worked together before and have a friendly relationship. (Harvard where she hired him.)
Kav is only recused if he's not there for oral arguments. Roberts can change the SCOTUS calendar to allow for a vote on Kav. If Kav goes down in the vote, no harm no foul. If he's confirmed, he can be seated and play catch-up on the briefing (assuming he's already selected his clerks and they are working quietly in the background on the early cases on the SCOTUS schedule.)
So if Grassley agrees to this delay, it may be because Roberts has already told him not to sweat it.
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Unfortunately, drawing this out much longer only brings with it further risks (e.g. The Whelan debacle). There is no upside playing the Dems game. The GOP is wrong thinking they can make a win out of this, as they'll be damned no matter what they do.
Rip the band-aid off now.
Rip the band-aid off now.
This has gone beyond ridiculous to plain insanity. It was an incident that allegedly occurred in high school THIRTY SIX ****ING YEARS AGO. Nobody even knows what happened.
Now you got former DOJ investigators resigning from lucrative partnerships? Man liberals are deranged, pathetic people.
Now you got former DOJ investigators resigning from lucrative partnerships? Man liberals are deranged, pathetic people.
Grassley needs to reel this insanity in pronto. this is what you get when you extend, extend, extend.
No telling what you can catch if you drag a couple of Benjamins through a strip club or trailer park.
Somebody needs to dig up some dirt on this fool.
Actually, he's already knee deep in scum from his prostitute/pron star client. Dirt probably wouldn't phase him.
Actually, he's already knee deep in scum from his prostitute/pron star client. Dirt probably wouldn't phase him.
Republicans are going to sh^t the bed here and contribute to the ruination of a man's career. Good job guys.
Agree. This is beyond "well, let's allow it to draw out a little more so the Dems look crazy, the base gets riled up, or whatever moronic motivation". This is a matter of basic decency and professionalism. End this circus. If someone can't vote Yes on this guy, they are a spineless worm.YouBet said:
Republicans are going to sh^t the bed here and contribute to the ruination of a man's career. Good job guys.
YouBet said:
Republicans are going to sh^t the bed here and contribute to the ruination of a man's career. Good job guys.
As accommodating as they've been with the extensions I am wondering if the R's have a silver bullet.
I wish this were true, but if there was, I think they would have already played it. Going for a "gotcha" in a hearing with some supposed sexual assault survivor (I'm vomiting on my keyboard as I type that tripe) does not sound like a wise strategy. Better to drop it now and just snuff it all out.Squadron7 said:YouBet said:
Republicans are going to sh^t the bed here and contribute to the ruination of a man's career. Good job guys.
As accommodating as they've been with the extensions I am wondering if the R's have a silver bullet.
What they have is Flake, Corker, and Collins. I have no doubt they have forced Grassley into these embarrassing retreats from one red line to another.Squadron7 said:YouBet said:
Republicans are going to sh^t the bed here and contribute to the ruination of a man's career. Good job guys.
As accommodating as they've been with the extensions I am wondering if the R's have a silver bullet.
Squadron7 said:YouBet said:
Republicans are going to sh^t the bed here and contribute to the ruination of a man's career. Good job guys.
As accommodating as they've been with the extensions I am wondering if the R's have a silver bullet.
There is no way. They are dumbasses and feckless cowards of the highest order.
Remember health care reform. They are going to keep extending without really having a plan and at some point Kavanaugh will just walk away or they will let media drive a false narrative to the point they think they have to pull support. Have the damn vote and move on.
As long as Kavanaugh is ultimately the next justice on the SCOTUS, they can play along with this charade as long as they want.
McConnell seems pretty confident that it's going to happen. If he doesn't have the votes he usually qualifies his remarks like "I certainly hope we can get this done." and such. Yesterday he said under no uncertain terms "Judge Kavanaugh will be on the Supreme Court."
McConnell seems pretty confident that it's going to happen. If he doesn't have the votes he usually qualifies his remarks like "I certainly hope we can get this done." and such. Yesterday he said under no uncertain terms "Judge Kavanaugh will be on the Supreme Court."
So we have a sum total of three photos of this chick? And two were from high school?
Old Tom Morris said:I wish this were true, but if there was, I think they would have already played it. Going for a "gotcha" in a hearing with some supposed sexual assault survivor (I'm vomiting on my keyboard as I type that tripe) does not sound like a wise strategy. Better to drop it now and just snuff it all out.Squadron7 said:YouBet said:
Republicans are going to sh^t the bed here and contribute to the ruination of a man's career. Good job guys.
As accommodating as they've been with the extensions I am wondering if the R's have a silver bullet.
Perhaps, but let me suggest this: Maybe this isn't about Grassley and Ford dancing with each other or just getting Kavanaugh confirmed. Maybe this about getting Kavanaugh confirmed AND keeping his reputation intact. In this case, it is much more than just a gotcha....it is the salvaging of his reputation. Maybe the only way to have a chance at both is to have her testify.
Maybe. But this all feels like "October Surprise" talk. Which there never is.
To whom are they appealing as far as his rep? It's 36 years old. He denied it. The witness denies it. There is no way to prove one way or the other. It's he said and she said.
Those who think he commited assault based on what we know are not going to be dissuaded by anything that happens at this point.
Those who think he commited assault based on what we know are not going to be dissuaded by anything that happens at this point.
Seems legit
Old Tom Morris said:
Maybe. But this all feels like "October Surprise" talk. Which there never is.
Or it could be that Kavanaugh himself wants her to testify. He wants to face his accuser and answer the charges directly. We can all say to play it smart and secure the SC seat at all costs.....but it isn't our reputation on the line. It is his. And maybe he is telling the committee that his reputation is more important to him than the seat.
I'd like to think that such men still exist.
He's not gonna face her. They are going to kid gloves her. Her being snuffed out and swept aside as a loon, toot sweet, would be the ideal scenario.
I'm wondering if Kavanaugh was traveling around the time of the alleged assault and can prove it. He just needs her locked in to make his evidence conclusive.
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How would he know? He doesn't even have a date.Michael Barnhart said:
I'm wondering if Kavanaugh was traveling around the time of the alleged assault and can prove it. He just needs her locked in to make his evidence conclusive.
She was 15 and in a bathing suit in Maryland. That creates at least a broad time frame.
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So they've tentatively agreed to Thursday
WelchAg said:
So they've tentatively agreed to Thursday
Does that mean Kav sits out this session?
Bo Darville said:WelchAg said:
So they've tentatively agreed to Thursday
Does that mean Kav sits out this session?
Not necessarily. I haven't seen anything that said that for certain, just rumour and speculation. Someone else said that Roberts can control when the SCOTUS term starts.
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