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This resolves the mystery of the DOJ tip that came in on the same day that Sussmann took the fake Alfa data to the FBI's general counsel. Turns out it's the same fake tip. Through corruption and/or incompetence the FBI made it look as if the tip came from two separate streams. https://t.co/z1ZQvsKcry

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) May 24, 2022

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Corruption or incompetence? Amazing how all of the "mistakes" seem to be in one direction.

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BREAKING FBI agent Curtis Heide testifies in #SussmannTrial that he is currently under internal investigation for withholding exculpatory evidence in Russia probe @WashTimes

— Jeff Mordock (@JeffMordock) May 24, 2022

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Maybe Flynn related?

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Page.

Heide says he is being investigating by FBI.He's being investigated for not IDing exculpatory info. (I believe FBI OPR is doing inquiry). Heide says he did not intentionally withhold exculpatory info -- a consensual recording related to the Carter Page FISA.

— Adam Goldman (@adamgoldmanNYT) May 24, 2022

Context: Gessford was one of the original Crossfire Hurricane agents. He was a CI guy who worked Robert Hanssen espionage case. I believe that Gessford is agent #2 in IG report about Carter Page FISA. FBI agent Stephen Somma is case agent #1` https://t.co/iw14uC1zzB

— Adam Goldman (@adamgoldmanNYT) May 24, 2022

WOW. What a morning. Defense might’ve just opened the door to introduce an email from Joffe.

Defense makes a case FBI leadership should be prosecuted.

I was in the court room, ask me anything.

— Undead FOIA (@UndeadFoia) May 24, 2022

Do we need to add IG Horowitz to the PoS list with Comey, Mueller and Weissman? How did he miss so much?

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WOW. What a morning. Defense might’ve just opened the door to introduce an email from Joffe.

Defense makes a case FBI leadership should be prosecuted.

I was in the court room, ask me anything.

— Undead FOIA (@UndeadFoia) May 24, 2022

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Why does he think that?

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Do we need to add IG Horowitz to the PoS list with Comey, Mueller and Weissman? How did he miss so much?

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Jury is still out on him for me. Two reasons. First he doesn't have subpoena power and Sally Yates forbade him from having any oversight on the FBI counter intel department. Second, he only has access to current employees and several of the parties had exited their jobs.

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Damn, I marvel at your memory. I had completely forgotten these facts. Thanks for the info.

No problem.

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WOW. What a morning. Defense might’ve just opened the door to introduce an email from Joffe.

Defense makes a case FBI leadership should be prosecuted.

I was in the court room, ask me anything.

— Undead FOIA (@UndeadFoia) May 24, 2022

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This seems like kind of a big deal.

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Do we need to add IG Horowitz to the PoS list with Comey, Mueller and Weissman? How did he miss so much?

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Jury is still out on him for me. Two reasons. First he doesn't have subpoena power and Sally Yates forbade him from having any oversight on the FBI counter intel department. Second, he only has access to current employees and several of the parties had exited their jobs.

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Didn't he fail to turn over James Baker's phone to Durham?

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Do we need to add IG Horowitz to the PoS list with Comey, Mueller and Weissman? How did he miss so much?

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Jury is still out on him for me. Two reasons. First he doesn't have subpoena power and Sally Yates forbade him from having any oversight on the FBI counter intel department. Second, he only has access to current employees and several of the parties had exited their jobs.

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Damn, I marvel at your memory. I had completely forgotten these facts. Thanks for the info.

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Her memory? Think 'steel trap'!

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Do we need to add IG Horowitz to the PoS list with Comey, Mueller and Weissman? How did he miss so much?

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Jury is still out on him for me. Two reasons. First he doesn't have subpoena power and Sally Yates forbade him from having any oversight on the FBI counter intel department. Second, he only has access to current employees and several of the parties had exited their jobs.

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Didn't he fail to turn over James Baker's phone to Durham?

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That story was a little unclear to me. Not sure when he got the phone and whether it was inventoried correctly. There were a lot of phones that were withheld from Horowitz for varying time frames. It's not like DOJ and the FBI were cooperating fully with him rom the get go. The Mueller Investigation asserted a turf war with him and claimed exclusion.

@UndeadFoia @McAdooGordon @KingMakerFT -- something we didn't discuss yesterday, and I'll talk about it next time, is that one reason for the weakness of the FBI Agent testimony and written work product here is that these Agents are all "Counter-Intelligence" Agents.

— Shipwreckedcrew.substack.com (@shipwreckedcrew) May 24, 2022

They expect to testify and answer hostile questions about what they have done.
The Counter-Intelligence side is never concerned with these things because CI cases are not criminal in nature. They are only about gathering information and passing it on as intelligence work-product.

— Shipwreckedcrew.substack.com (@shipwreckedcrew) May 24, 2022

What you are seeing from them is that this is not part of what they do daily, and they are not concerned about finding themselves in this situation answering questions about things they did 6 years ago and why they did it. It's why they aren't careful like you might expect.

— Shipwreckedcrew.substack.com (@shipwreckedcrew) May 24, 2022

And that is also a reflection how little oversight they had when Yates forbade IG from conducting reviews.

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Do we need to add IG Horowitz to the PoS list with Comey, Mueller and Weissman? How did he miss so much?

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Jury is still out on him for me. Two reasons. First he doesn't have subpoena power and Sally Yates forbade him from having any oversight on the FBI counter intel department. Second, he only has access to current employees and several of the parties had exited their jobs.

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Didn't he fail to turn over James Baker's phone to Durham?

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You people have incredible memories.
Durham Filing Rebuts Inspector General Horowitz's Statements On Missing Cellphones!

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The January 28 filling by Durham updated the court when Durham first learned of two cellphones that Baker used while he was with the FBI. These phones were initially mentioned in a January 25 filing, where Durham claimed that the OIG had failed to disclose its possession of the two FBI cellphones that Baker owned.

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Do we need to add IG Horowitz to the PoS list with Comey, Mueller and Weissman? How did he miss so much?

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Yes. He, like Mueller, was sent in to clean up and hide the bodies. No honest inspector/investigator would have failed to turn up everything we have known for years in addition to the small details that are coming out in this trial.

The Durham team finally got it to the jury that there was evidence the FBI never got suggesting the possibility that the Alfa Bank narrative was fake: https://t.co/1VgfDmMKbe

— Kingmaker - Big IF! (True) (@KingMakerFT) May 24, 2022

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Do we need to add IG Horowitz to the PoS list with Comey, Mueller and Weissman? How did he miss so much?

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Jury is still out on him for me. Two reasons. First he doesn't have subpoena power and Sally Yates forbade him from having any oversight on the FBI counter intel department. Second, he only has access to current employees and several of the parties had exited their jobs.

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Damn, I marvel at your memory. I had completely forgotten these facts. Thanks for the info.

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Anyone who survived a deposition from an attorney working for James Baker in the Florida election fiasco has got to have serious memory chops.

I don't think I'll ever forget your story about that deposition.

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Anyone who survived a deposition from an attorney working for James Baker in the Florida election fiasco has got to have serious memory chops.

I don't think I'll ever forget your story about that deposition.

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And I'll never forget that deposition. I was positive, as was every one in the conference room that a shooting had just occurred right outside the door and I was the target.

Was just standing two feet across from Durham and Algor for 4 minutes and didnt take one breath.

— Undead FOIA (@UndeadFoia) May 24, 2022

Berkowitz OVERRULED. Exhibit 132 (email regarding the white paper) WILL come in. https://t.co/DmatDiB4H7

— Durham is Coming (@Durham_isComing) May 24, 2022

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Anyone who survived a deposition from an attorney working for James Baker in the Florida election fiasco has got to have serious memory chops.

I don't think I'll ever forget your story about that deposition.

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And I'll never forget that deposition. I was positive, as was every one in the conference room that a shooting had just occurred right outside the door and I was the target.

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WOAH - I'd love to hear that story.

Hawg, you REALLY should write a book or five. Not joking.

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Anyone who survived a deposition from an attorney working for James Baker in the Florida election fiasco has got to have serious memory chops.

I don't think I'll ever forget your story about that deposition.

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And I'll never forget that deposition. I was positive, as was every one in the conference room that a shooting had just occurred right outside the door and I was the target.

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WOAH - I'd love to hear that story.

Hawg, you REALLY should write a book or five. Not joking.

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I can laugh about it now but it was in a lawsuit when I was a party suing former business partners for embezzlement. Since they were former partners and friends I knew that both the husband and wife had guns in their offices and vehicles. (And there had been death threats before.)

As I was testifying and it was about my conversations with the FBI regarding our case (bankruptcy fraud and IRS complications for them as a result of the embezzlement) the wife got up and left the deposition suite. Just a few minutes later, I was completely focused on my interrogator, the aforementioned lawyer called to Florida for the recount during my deposition, but I did perceive that the husband also got up and passed behind that attorney heading towards the door.

The way the conference room was set up, I was at the end of a long conference table that was closest to the door, with my attorneys and other plaintiffs seated to my right all of the way to the other end of the table. Court reporter was immediately to my left.

So within a split second of the husband exiting, there was a very loud BANG! Court reporter's machine went flying, I jumped up and made it to the far corner of the room even before the people seated just a few feet away. My fellow plaintiffs and lawyers surrounded me in the corner to shield me.

Everyone thought the wife had gone down to her car to retrieve a gun. Turns out the husband had fainted and had slammed against a door that then slammed against a wall. Cops, EMS, the works showed up. Long day.

I was still supposed to be further deposed the next day (day three for me) until my attorneys called to tell me about the opposing attorney being summoned to Florida to work for Bush during the recount.

Then my lawyer told me he had said to opposing counsel, "We're on the other side, you know." (Plaintiffs lawyers, big Dems, of course) And opposing counsel replied, "I don't know why you would say that. You have seen how ineffective I have been at questioning aggiehawg." My lawyer was guffawing over that.

I was going to tell Tailgate that if one pays attention to your writing long enough, you'll eventually get one of those Dr. Bombay moments from Bewitched, of which that story is.

"Hello Samantha, I was just reaching the summit of Mr. Everest".

The other item is your genuine love and passion of the law, good and bad.

BTW, how has "Gaslit" been? I know you've been watching, or at least recording.

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I was going to tell Tailgate that if one pays attention to your writing long enough, you'll eventually get one of those Dr. Bombay moments from Bewitched, of which that story is.

"Hello Samantha, I was just reaching the summit of Mr. Everest".

The other item is your genuine love and passion of the law, good and bad.

BTW, how has "Gaslit" been? I know you've been watching, or at least recording.

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Pretty good. My sympathy for what Martha Mitchell endured has grown significantly. But the writers really hate John Dean because he's an idiot and a stooge in the series.

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Anyone who survived a deposition from an attorney working for James Baker in the Florida election fiasco has got to have serious memory chops.

I don't think I'll ever forget your story about that deposition.

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And I'll never forget that deposition. I was positive, as was every one in the conference room that a shooting had just occurred right outside the door and I was the target.

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WOAH - I'd love to hear that story.

Hawg, you REALLY should write a book or five. Not joking.

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I can laugh about it now but it was in a lawsuit when I was a party suing former business partners for embezzlement. Since they were former partners and friends I knew that both the husband and wife had guns in their offices and vehicles. (And there had been death threats before.)

As I was testifying and it was about my conversations with the FBI regarding our case (bankruptcy fraud and IRS complications for them as a result of the embezzlement) the wife got up and left the deposition suite. Just a few minutes later, I was completely focused on my interrogator, the aforementioned lawyer called to Florida for the recount during my deposition, but I did perceive that the husband also got up and passed behind that attorney heading towards the door.

The way the conference room was set up, I was at the end of a long conference table that was closest to the door, with my attorneys and other plaintiffs seated to my right all of the way to the other end of the table. Court reporter was immediately to my left.

So within a split second of the husband exiting, there was a very loud BANG! Court reporter's machine went flying, I jumped up and made it to the far corner of the room even before the people seated just a few feet away. My partners and lawyers surrounded me in the corner to shield me.

Everyone thought the wife had gone down to her car to retrieve a gun. Turns out the husband had fainted and had slammed against a door that then slammed against a wall. Cops, EMS, the works showed up. Long day.

I was still supposed to be further deposed the next day (day three for me) until my attorneys called to tell me about the opposing attorney being summoned to Florida to work for Bush during the recount.

Then my lawyer told me he had said to opposing counsel, "We're on the other side, you know." (Plaintiffs lawyers, big Dems, of course) And opposing counsel replied, "I don't know why you would say that. You have seen how ineffective I have been at questioning aggiehawg." My lawyer was guffawing over that.

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Thanks for telling the story, I'm sure I'm not the only one to get a chuckle out of it. Weren't you also in a private plane that almost went down once on another case?

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I was going to tell Tailgate that if one pays attention to your writing long enough, you'll eventually get one of those Dr. Bombay moments from Bewitched, of which that story is.

"Hello Samantha, I was just reaching the summit of Mr. Everest".

The other item is your genuine love and passion of the law, good and bad.

BTW, how has "Gaslit" been? I know you've been watching, or at least recording.

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Watched Bewitched as a kid, I remember!

Seeing quite a few people on Twitter thinking many more indictments cing after what the general public have found out during this trial.

So far as witnesses for Durham in the trial, the FBI looks more like defendants than victims. It just goes to show that the FBI and the Hillary campaign were on the same team. Maybe Durham will put FBI brass across from the witness box, at the defendant's table, instead of in it

— Paul Sperry (@PaulSperry30) May 24, 2022

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Thanks for telling the story, I'm sure I'm not the only one to get a chuckle out of it. Weren't you also in a private plane that almost went down once on another case?

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Yep. That was me. I represented a Chrysler car dealer. On the plane with me was Chrysler corporate counsel and counsel for Chrysler Credit. We had to fly up to Farmington New Mexico for a deposition in a lemon car case. After an entire day of hearing about how their new car would just die while going down the highway, we got back into the single engine plane to fly back. Chrysler Credit attorney went to sleep in the back seat while corporate counsel and I chatted.

Suddenly, the prop engine died. The pilot flips a bunch of switches and sits back. Nothing happens. I turn to corporate counsel and nervously ask, "Does Chrysler make airplane engines?" Just then the engine sputtered back up and the pilot pulled the plane back up. We had not been in a dive but were losing altitude. I turn around and the CC attorney's eyes were like saucers. He didn't sleep for the rest of the flight.

And I had a great story to tell for scotch time at the firm that evening.