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He & his supervisor were the first FBI personnel to look technically at what Sussman provided. They are at FBI Cybersecurity Division (Chantilly, VA). Drove to DC the day after the Sussman/Baker meeting to pick up data & do chain of custody.

— Leslie McAdoo Gordon ⚖️ 👠🇺🇸 (@McAdooGordon) May 17, 2022

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DeFilippis set a trap and Sussmann's defense stepped right in it in bringing Joffe's CI status into the open in court. That genie will not go back into the bottle and they know it and it's opens up an entire new line of evidence to be introduced. Well done.

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Maybe not...

We've been back a bit. Before jury came in, there was discussion of Joffe being terminated as a confidential source in 2021. The reason was he should have given Alfa Bank info to his handler, not the FBI general counsel. Judge told prosecution to stay away from termination. /33

— Charlie Savage (@charlie_savage) May 17, 2022

will25u said:

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DeFilippis set a trap and Sussmann's defense stepped right in it in bringing Joffe's CI status into the open in court. That genie will not go back into the bottle and they know it and it's opens up an entire new line of evidence to be introduced. Well done.

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Maybe not...

We've been back a bit. Before jury came in, there was discussion of Joffe being terminated as a confidential source in 2021. The reason was he should have given Alfa Bank info to his handler, not the FBI general counsel. Judge told prosecution to stay away from termination. /33

— Charlie Savage (@charlie_savage) May 17, 2022

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Oh yeah there's an argument to be made, and still avoid the actual termination.


This guy Savage's account doesn't match up with others following live. Lots of eyeballs on this.

Claims that Sussman wanted to give the FBI a heads up so it wouldn't be caught flat footed when the article that they were planting in the New York Times came out and then claimed that the FBI shut down the article so the government theory is "nonsensical" is laughable. Anyone in this group that's paid attention to this massive book knows that the copy of what Sussmann brought them in an extra thumb drive that was given to Peter Strzok and we know for a fact that Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were in contact with multiple media outlets trying to seed the story into the MSM about the background and the narrative of the Trump Russia collusion. It's plain in their own text messages. All the texts were showing frustration that the MSM was hesitating, and until Buzzfeed jumped off the deep end it stayed in the background. The FBI was all in from the Crossfire Hurricane Team's standpoint.

Hellman on the white papers provided to FBI by Jussie Sussmann.... ""I thought the person who had drafted this document was suffering from some mental disability." https://t.co/moeVDsaT6B

— Durham is Coming (@Durham_isComing) May 17, 2022

sicandtiredTXN said:

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We are soon to find out that Marc Elias went into CYA mode and rolled over on his partner Sussmann and testified before the GJ previously and is going to be the slam dunk on Sussmann. He's going to be granted trial immunity to keep him from pleading the fifth.

Stay tuned

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If that's the case, I'll prepare myself to be disgusted by the immunity terms. I'm sure it'll give him blanket immunity for life. Sorry to be pessimistic, but I just don't believe in our justice system anymore.

dreyOO said:

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We are soon to find out that Marc Elias went into CYA mode and rolled over on his partner Sussmann and testified before the GJ previously and is going to be the slam dunk on Sussmann. He's going to be granted trial immunity to keep him from pleading the fifth.

Stay tuned

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If that's the case, I'll prepare myself to be disgusted by the immunity terms. I'm sure it'll give him blanket immunity for life. Sorry to be pessimistic, but I just don't believe in our justice system anymore.

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Durham used the term "trial immunity for a reason" it's works like queen for a day just during the trial.

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Hellman on the white papers provided to FBI by Jussie Sussmann.... ""I thought the person who had drafted this document was suffering from some mental disability." https://t.co/moeVDsaT6B

— Durham is Coming (@Durham_isComing) May 17, 2022

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For those that don't know, Van Halen had an album called 5150. Here's the source of the reference:

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5150 is the number of the section of the Welfare and Institutions Code, which allows a person with a mental challenge to be involuntarily detained for a 72-hour psychiatric hospitalization.

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And people here believed it all.

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The number of FBI agents and senior level FBI officials who have flipped and are cooperating in the Durham case against Michael Sussmann is jaw dropping. This is just the beginning.

— George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) May 16, 2022

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Are they not legally required to cooperate if he has a valid subpoena?

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Tailgate88 said:

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The number of FBI agents and senior level FBI officials who have flipped and are cooperating in the Durham case against Michael Sussmann is jaw dropping. This is just the beginning.

— George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) May 16, 2022

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Are they not legally required to cooperate if he has a valid subpoena?

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GP is just rattling his cup

Today we found out that Rodney Joffe had an FBI handler, Tom Grasso (raising a question we've asked before: why did he need Sussmann?).

Anyway, Joffe's handler left the FBI to join Quintel. Quintel is now promoting Andrew McCabe's seminar series.

DC is broken. Burn it all down. https://t.co/xHqnKYRUWj pic.twitter.com/78Th7LjSKk

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) May 17, 2022

Day two in the books and no Elias sighting yet. Maybe tomorrow.

Defense is going to have to explain Sussmann going to all the different agencies he did. Termination date of Joffe is crucial. Need to dig that up somehow. I'm betting Durham knows exactly.

And why was Sussmann handling Joffe instead of his handler Grosso? was it because it was post CHS termination?

Maybe Grosso recognized this as so toxic refused to engage? Didn't want his fingerprints anywhere near this as most others did

sicandtiredTXN said:

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Hellman on the white papers provided to FBI by Jussie Sussmann.... ""I thought the person who had drafted this document was suffering from some mental disability." https://t.co/moeVDsaT6B

— Durham is Coming (@Durham_isComing) May 17, 2022

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It was a lib, so....

No Elias today. They are done for the day.

Two most interesting things of the day was...

1. They called it the DNC white paper.
2. Why didn't Sussman run it through his handler instead of taking it to Baker since he was an FBI CHI.

Tom Grasso is Joffe’s handler.

See our FOIA documents where Grasso is mentioned. LinkedIn activity also connects Grasso strongly with…Andrew McCabe.

— UndeadFOIA (@UndeadFoia) May 17, 2022

It's not Obama, Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Yates and crew that are responsible for the collapse of institutional credibility. It's all those who came along after including Rosenstein, Mueller, Barr et al, and did absolutely NOTHING in urgent reaction which delivered accountability.

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) May 17, 2022

will25u said:

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It's not Obama, Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Yates and crew that are responsible for the collapse of institutional credibility. It's all those who came along after including Rosenstein, Mueller, Barr et al, and did absolutely NOTHING in urgent reaction which delivered accountability.

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) May 17, 2022

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It's all those who came along after including Rosenstein, Mueller, Barr et al, and did absolutely NOTHING in urgent reaction which delivered accountability.

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It would have been better if Rosenstein and Mueller had done nothing. They actively went after Trump even though they knew collusion was a Clinton campaign dirty trick.

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will25u said:

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It's not Obama, Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Yates and crew that are responsible for the collapse of institutional credibility. It's all those who came along after including Rosenstein, Mueller, Barr et al, and did absolutely NOTHING in urgent reaction which delivered accountability.

— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) May 17, 2022

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It's all those who came along after including Rosenstein, Mueller, Barr et al, and did absolutely NOTHING in urgent reaction which delivered accountability.

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It would have been better if Rosenstein and Mueller had done nothing. They actively went after Trump even though they knew collusion was a Clinton campaign dirty trick.

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How convenient that they had Rosenstein compromised according to their chat logs.

Techno has the morning transcript!

Day 1 of the Michael Sussmann Trial, by @Techno_Fog https://t.co/9AX47YEGSt

— UndeadFOIA (@UndeadFoia) May 18, 2022

So, this is kinda interesting, don't you thin, given Sussmann's theory of defense? 1/ pic.twitter.com/VywLTc3Cva

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) May 18, 2022

I know it's early...but do any of our in-house lawyer types have an opinion as to how day 1 went...or how day 2 might go?

TIA!

Long thread. Leslie's thoughts on the witnesses yesterday.

He had to concede that the technical review of the data would not have been any different no matter what, and that the source ID or bias (my word) would only have mattered for opening a case or not and the steps they would take & even then he said it was a "data point."

— Leslie McAdoo Gordon ⚖️ 👠🇺🇸 (@McAdooGordon) May 18, 2022

By now, you know what happened yesterday in the Sussmann trial. Here's what you need to know about Sussmann's theory of defense. @FDRLST https://t.co/4Opp3wAMFZ

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) May 18, 2022

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By now, you know what happened yesterday in the Sussmann trial. Here's what you need to know about Sussmann's theory of defense. @FDRLST https://t.co/4Opp3wAMFZ

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) May 18, 2022

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Reading the Cleveland thread, it would appear that anything coming out of the Sussman camp is a lie or a contradiction against logic.

Thread for today.

Greetings from day three in the trial of Michael Sussmann, a former Clinton campaign attorney accused of lying to the FBI about who he was representing when he passed along a tip about Donald Trump in Sept 2019

— Sarah N. Lynch (@SarahNLynch) May 18, 2022

It Took FBI Less Than A Day To Discover Trump Conspiracy Theory Was Bogus. https://t.co/tEdb8gncJV

— Scott Adams  anti~globalist (@scottadamsshow) May 18, 2022

Fully immunized witness coming in 🍿 https://t.co/pzugyiQcLz

— FOOL NELSON (@FOOL_NELSON) May 18, 2022

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whatthehey78 said:

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I know it's early...but do any of our in-house lawyer types have an opinion as to how day 1 went...or how day 2 might go?

TIA!

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I think many of them may have finally given up on this when they figured out the judge is married to someone in the accused circles….

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And Americans bltch about corruption in Third World countries...how ironic.

It appears the government is using this witness to lay the ground work for convincing the jury that Sussmann was representing clients Joffe and the Clinton campaign when he passed the Alfa Bank-Trump Org tip to the FBI.

— Sarah N. Lynch (@SarahNLynch) May 18, 2022

Also, given Sussmann has argued that the Clinton Campaign wanted Alfa Bank stuff pushed in media & not to FBI, this negates his attempt to portray him going to FBI as not for Clinton. Clinton Campaign didn't know Alfa Bank was going to media either! https://t.co/MENaoKWepY

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) May 18, 2022

I've been following along but I don't read ever twitter post thread or article that yall put in here because....well I have to work some as well.

So would anyone mind giving a single post summary of what has actually occurred at the trial thus far? It can be long, I understand but....im sure more than just me would appreciate the cliff notes version so far