Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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sicandtiredTXN said:




What does mean?
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SwigAg11 said:

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What does mean?
TBD as to whether or not the court grants or denies the FGPS motion to intervene. Prof Cleveland is just pointing out the case they cite lends them no favor.
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Hurry about to have 3638937264792 intervenors like we had so many amicus briefs in the Flynn trial?

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will25u said:

Hurry about to have 3638937264792 intervenors like we had so many amicus briefs in the Flynn trial?


Oh good grief!
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will25u said:


Interesting. Sussmann was indicted on September 16, 2021.
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Is everything that is happening today trying to muddy the water for the judge/Durham for the hearing tomorrow?
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will25u said:

Is everything that is happening today trying to muddy the water for the judge/Durham for the hearing tomorrow?
Yes. It's called "a rolling barrage." Works well against civil litigants with limited pockets.

Does not work as well against a Special Counsel with the government's deep pockets.

What do I always say about pigs squealing?? Yeah, that.
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aggiehawg said:

will25u said:

Is everything that is happening today trying to muddy the water for the judge/Durham for the hearing tomorrow?
Yes. It's called "a rolling barrage." Works well against civil litigants with limited pockets.

Does not work as well against a Special Counsel with the government's deep pockets.

What do I always say about pigs squealing?? Yeah, that.
If these motions are all germane to the hearing tomorrow, any chance the judge blows them up for waiting for the day before to dump all these briefs on the court?
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Transparency
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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If these motions are all germane to the hearing tomorrow, any chance the judge blows them up for waiting for the day before to dump all these briefs on the court?
I have forsaken predicting how any DC judge will view anything at this point. Even the "good" judges suck.
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will25u said:


There is such a thing a legit work product when law firms hire private eyes for pending and anticipated litigation.

Fusion has never been a PI firm.
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aggiehawg said:

will25u said:

Is everything that is happening today trying to muddy the water for the judge/Durham for the hearing tomorrow?
Yes. It's called "a rolling barrage." Works well against civil litigants with limited pockets.

Does not work as well against a Special Counsel with the government's deep pockets.

What do I always say about pigs squealing?? Yeah, that.
I don't know how many attorneys Durham has, but assume it's 20, or more. How does someone like Durham divide each lawyer, or teams of lawyers?

I assume he has certain folks writing the motions, others on research, and others on potential actions to be taken outside of the Sussman case.
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fasthorse05 said:

aggiehawg said:

will25u said:

Is everything that is happening today trying to muddy the water for the judge/Durham for the hearing tomorrow?
Yes. It's called "a rolling barrage." Works well against civil litigants with limited pockets.

Does not work as well against a Special Counsel with the government's deep pockets.

What do I always say about pigs squealing?? Yeah, that.
I don't know how many attorneys Durham has, but assume it's 20, or more. How does someone like Durham divide each lawyer, or teams of lawyers?

I assume he has certain folks writing the motions, others on research, and others on potential actions to be taken outside of the Sussman case.
Everything I've seen from Durham indicates to me he runs a very tight ship. Clearly delineated spheres of responsibility with some redundancy built in.

Also, Durham practically invited this type of throwing s*** against the wall response. He's prepared for that, I think.
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Hopefully Durham knows everything Twitter folks have brought forward. If not, I hope they already know. Crowdfunded research on the internet is no joke, ESPECIALLY Since they don't have everything available to them that the government does.
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will25u said:

Hopefully Durham knows everything Twitter folks have brought forward. If not, I hope they already know. Crowdfunded research on the internet is no joke, ESPECIALLY Since they don't have everything available to them that the government does.

Oopsie!!!!

ETA: Elias may keep his license but his clients should be at the abandon ship stage now.
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Okay, I love the idea you put "oopsie" on your reply, but can't figure out why?

If the first doc is entirely blacked out, how does that support the last doc? Or, does the special counsel get to see the unredacted doc, but not the general public?

And it would be a darn shame to see the monies Elias put into his own firm go up in smoke!
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will25u said:

Hopefully Durham knows everything Twitter folks have brought forward. If not, I hope they already know. Crowdfunded research on the internet is no joke, ESPECIALLY Since they don't have everything available to them that the government does.
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Found this response to the tweet you posted. Hoping he gets this and more.
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fasthorse05 said:

aggiehawg said:

will25u said:

Is everything that is happening today trying to muddy the water for the judge/Durham for the hearing tomorrow?
Yes. It's called "a rolling barrage." Works well against civil litigants with limited pockets.

Does not work as well against a Special Counsel with the government's deep pockets.

What do I always say about pigs squealing?? Yeah, that.
I don't know how many attorneys Durham has, but assume it's 20, or more. How does someone like Durham divide each lawyer, or teams of lawyers?

I assume he has certain folks writing the motions, others on research, and others on potential actions to be taken outside of the Sussman case.
The reason Durham has been able to keep a lid on this investigation for two plus years is because he has a very small group of hand picked seasoned prosecutors. I think he has 6 or 7 prosecutors that he's used for years in all the corruption cases he's prosecuted for decades. Now those prosecutors have staffers as well but they are going to be few and all 100% trustworthy, because Durham's MO is zero leaks.

This blizzard of paperwork isn't a big deal for this team, this is exactly what they expected. This isn't always a good strategy, and it backfires a lot of the time. And some of these arguments are so legally ludicrous the stench or it attaches itself to any real legal arguments they have. This is desperation because they've run outta things to do. Some of these claims now they are making directly contradicts sworn testimony they made three and four years ago. They never expected this to go this far.

I honestly think that when they got Trump out of office that Garland would have shut all this down and they'd be off to do more evil elsewhere and here they are with the Hail Mary.
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sicandtiredTXN said:

fasthorse05 said:

aggiehawg said:

will25u said:

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The reason Durham has been able to keep a lid on this investigation for two plus years is because he has a very small group of hand picked seasoned prosecutors. I think he has 6 or 7 prosecutors that he's used for years in all the corruption cases he's prosecuted for decades. Now those prosecutors have staffers as well but they are going to be few and all 100% trustworthy, because Durham's MO is zero leaks.

This blizzard of paperwork isn't a big deal for this team, this is exactly what they expected. This isn't always a good strategy, and it backfires a lot of the time. And some of these arguments are so legally ludicrous the stench or it attaches itself to any real legal arguments they have. This is desperation because they've run outta things to do. Some of these claims now they are making directly contradicts sworn testimony they made three and four years ago. They never expected this to go this far.

I honestly think that when they got Trump out of office that Garland would have shut all this down and they'd be off to do more evil elsewhere and here they are with the Hail Mary.
I hope you are 100% right.
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fasthorse05 said:

Okay, I love the idea you put "oopsie" on your reply, but can't figure out why?

If the first doc is entirely blacked out, how does that support the last doc? Or, does the special counsel get to see the unredacted doc, but not the general public?

And it would be a darn shame to see the monies Elias put into his own firm go up in smoke!
Okay, this is going into multiple directions at once. Circular firing squads.

Fusion tried to claim they were hired for legal advice and therefor their communications with Perkins were privileged but the guy that hired them testified under oath that they were not. But today the filing is redacted because of the phony "legal advice" claim but redacted.

Sooo, the lawyer's dream question: Were you lying then or are you lying now? Pick one.
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sicandtiredTXN said:

fasthorse05 said:

aggiehawg said:

will25u said:

Is everything that is happening today trying to muddy the water for the judge/Durham for the hearing tomorrow?
Yes. It's called "a rolling barrage." Works well against civil litigants with limited pockets.

Does not work as well against a Special Counsel with the government's deep pockets.

What do I always say about pigs squealing?? Yeah, that.
I don't know how many attorneys Durham has, but assume it's 20, or more. How does someone like Durham divide each lawyer, or teams of lawyers?

I assume he has certain folks writing the motions, others on research, and others on potential actions to be taken outside of the Sussman case.
The reason Durham has been able to keep a lid on this investigation for two plus years is because he has a very small group of hand picked seasoned prosecutors. I think he has 6 or 7 prosecutors that he's used for years in all the corruption cases he's prosecuted for decades. Now those prosecutors have staffers as well but they are going to be few and all 100% trustworthy, because Durham's MO is zero leaks.

This blizzard of paperwork isn't a big deal for this team, this is exactly what they expected. This isn't always a good strategy, and it backfires a lot of the time. And some of these arguments are so legally ludicrous the stench or it attaches itself to any real legal arguments they have. This is desperation because they've run outta things to do. Some of these claims now they are making directly contradicts sworn testimony they made three and four years ago. They never expected this to go this far.

I honestly think that when they got Trump out of office that Garland would have shut all this down and they'd be off to do more evil elsewhere and here they are with the Hail Mary.


In theory, could Biden just shut this all down? I thought I remember reading that Trump could have shut down Mueller if he wanted.
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I just found this funny, note the edit to the docket that just happened in the least few minutes

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In theory, could Biden just shut this all down? I thought I remember reading that Trump could have shut down Mueller if he wanted.
Actually, Biden could shut it down and fire Durham. Nixon fired Cox and none of the articles of impeachment drawn up against him did not even include that firing.

Trump would not have been able to fire Mueller without being impeached and likely convicted in the Senate, if he had fired Mueller after firing Comey. The optics were awful on that one, at the time.
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SwigAg11 said:

sicandtiredTXN said:

fasthorse05 said:

aggiehawg said:

will25u said:

Is everything that is happening today trying to muddy the water for the judge/Durham for the hearing tomorrow?
Yes. It's called "a rolling barrage." Works well against civil litigants with limited pockets.

Does not work as well against a Special Counsel with the government's deep pockets.

What do I always say about pigs squealing?? Yeah, that.
I don't know how many attorneys Durham has, but assume it's 20, or more. How does someone like Durham divide each lawyer, or teams of lawyers?

I assume he has certain folks writing the motions, others on research, and others on potential actions to be taken outside of the Sussman case.
The reason Durham has been able to keep a lid on this investigation for two plus years is because he has a very small group of hand picked seasoned prosecutors. I think he has 6 or 7 prosecutors that he's used for years in all the corruption cases he's prosecuted for decades. Now those prosecutors have staffers as well but they are going to be few and all 100% trustworthy, because Durham's MO is zero leaks.

This blizzard of paperwork isn't a big deal for this team, this is exactly what they expected. This isn't always a good strategy, and it backfires a lot of the time. And some of these arguments are so legally ludicrous the stench or it attaches itself to any real legal arguments they have. This is desperation because they've run outta things to do. Some of these claims now they are making directly contradicts sworn testimony they made three and four years ago. They never expected this to go this far.

I honestly think that when they got Trump out of office that Garland would have shut all this down and they'd be off to do more evil elsewhere and here they are with the Hail Mary.


In theory, could Biden just shut this all down? I thought I remember reading that Trump could have shut down Mueller if he wanted.
Technically Biden yes I guess. Biden can order Garland to do it and then it's up to Garland to either obey or not. It's still up to Garland.

ETA I'd forgotten about the Archibald Cox incident. With the Dems about to lose the House and Senate Biden would be toast and there's no way around that.
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Do you have ay thoughts that Durham already may have more of their communications than he is letting on, potentially from the Radcliffe/Patel data dump? If so, has he possibly set some perjury traps for these various firms to walk into in filing their motions in support of Sussman?
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txags92 said:

Do you have ay thoughts that Durham already may have more of their communications than he is letting on, potentially from the Radcliffe/Patel data dump? If so, has he possibly set some perjury traps for these various firms to walk into in filing their motions in support of Sussman?
You can bet the house he does
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Thank ya, ma'am!
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And not that I don't believe the Reps (RINO'S and all) will get back the House and Senate, but we've got six months of blathering political tricks and turns, not to mention the damage we'll likely do to ourselves between now and the second Tuesday in November.

It should be a staggering blowout, but between the leftover law breakers in the ballot counting business, and the DNC media, I guarantee you they're are new fake stories ready to be released after September 1st.
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