Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Thread. Still writing.

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will25u said:

RyanM58699717 said:

A conspiracy is going to be charged. And the DNC hack will be traced back to Sussmann and Joffe. At that point the burden of proof is low for those committing overt acts.
Ryan, what happened???


For anyone with access, ryan is on Truth Social.
Who is John Galt?

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MarkTwain
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Okay boys and girls Sussmann and Durham dropped a truckload

MOTION in Limine to Preclude the Special Counsel from Presenting Evidence or Argument Regarding Matters Subject to the Attorney-Client Privilege by MICHAEL A. SUSSMANN. (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order)(Berkowitz, Sean) (Entered: 04/04/2022


https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638.57.0_2.pdf

MOTION in Limine to Exclude Testimony or Evidence Pertaining to Former FBI Assistant Director Bill Priestap's and Deputy General Counsel Trisha Anderson's Notes by MICHAEL A. SUSSMANN. (Attachments: # 1 Text of Proposed Order)(Berkowitz, Sean) (Entered: 04/04/2022)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638.58.0_2.pdf


MOTION to Dismiss Case if the Special Counsel Does Not Immunize Rodney Joffe by MICHAEL A. SUSSMANN. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A, # 2 Text of Proposed Order)(Berkowitz, Sean) (Entered: 04/04/2022)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638.59.0_3.pdf

Exhibit A

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638.59.1.pdf

MOTION in Limine to Preclude Evidence Regarding the Gathering of Data, the Accuracy of Data or Its Analysis, or the Steele Dossier and to Strike the Same by MICHAEL A. SUSSMANN. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A, # 2 Text of Proposed Order)(Berkowitz, Sean) (Entered: 04/04/2022)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638.60.0_1.pdf

Exhibit A

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638.60.1.pdf

MOTION in Limine by USA as to MICHAEL A. SUSSMANN. (Keilty, Michael) (Entered: 04/04/2022)

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638.61.0_1.pdf
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will25u
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Ok, so what does all that mean? That is above my head.
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I was just coming to post that. That is a long thread, but doesn't really explain much.
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Thread detailing all the motions by Mrs. Cleveland.

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Ellis Wyatt
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Lots of good stuff there. Praying for justice.
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will25u
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If you care to know what the other side thinks about this.

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I just read where Judge Cooper was appointed by Obama and is married to a woman named Amy Jeffress (who is the attorney for Lisa Page).
https://thevirginiastar.com/2021/09/21/judge-in-case-of-anti-trump-mudslinger-is-married-to-attorney-for-ex-fbi-lawyer-lisa-page/
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BillYeoman said:


Whooopsie
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BillYeoman said:


I don't think they are disputing he said he wasn't representing any client, that he was presenting the evidence to them on his own. The defense's position is that isn't material to the investigation.
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The defense's position is that isn't material to the investigation.
Problem with that is there wouldn't have been an Alfa Bank investigation if Sussmann hadn't pressed for a meeting with Baker on it.
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aggiehawg said:

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The defense's position is that isn't material to the investigation.
Problem with that is there wouldn't have been an Alfa Bank investigation if Sussmann hadn't pressed for a meeting with Baker on it.
Yes, but the tweet says the text saying he wasn't representing anyone hurts his case. They aren't disputing that. I don't think that text affects anything.
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Sussmann seeking to preclude the use of these notes, arguing they hearsay not subject to an exception is laughable given this is the basis for 302's that are held as gospel to prosecute others. It may also confirm that Priestap has testified before a grand jury something was posited here many many pages back Durham argues as he well should they are admissible. To see the names Preistap and Anderson re-emerge is nice to see.

Sussmann asking almost demanding the Court to order the Special Counsel to give Joffe immunity for his testimony or have the case dismissed is ballsy or is someone scared he may flip another direction.
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Sussmann asking almost demanding the Court to order the Special Counsel to give Joffe immunity for his testimony or have the case dismissed is ballsy or is someone scared he may flip another direction.
That confuses me. How would giving Joffe immunity help Sussmann's case?
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https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638/gov.uscourts.dcd.235638.61.0_1.pdf
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aggiehawg said:

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Sussmann asking almost demanding the Court to order the Special Counsel to give Joffe immunity for his testimony or have the case dismissed is ballsy or is someone scared he may flip another direction.
That confuses me. How would giving Joffe immunity help Sussmann's case?


Agreed that's real head scratcher there, maybe it's just smoke, I just don't know, maybe it's just to look like he's putting up some kind of resistance to everything and ran out of ideas.
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sicandtiredTXN said:

aggiehawg said:

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Sussmann asking almost demanding the Court to order the Special Counsel to give Joffe immunity for his testimony or have the case dismissed is ballsy or is someone scared he may flip another direction.
That confuses me. How would giving Joffe immunity help Sussmann's case?


Agreed that's real head scratcher there, maybe it's just smoke, I just don't know, maybe it's just to look like he's putting up some kind of resistance to everything and ran out of ideas.
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Sussmann also asks the Court to order the Special Counsel to give Rodney Joffe immunity for his testimony or have the case dismissed.

Of course, Joffe (Tech Executive-1 in the Sussmann indictment) is the Sussmann client who helped lead the effort to manufacture the Alfa Bank/Trump hoax. Sussmann maintains that Joffe would "offer critical exculpatory testimony on behalf of Mr. Sussmann" but cannot because Durham is "manufacturing incredible claims of continuing criminal liability for Mr. Joffe that are forcing Mr. Joffe to assert his Fifth Amendment right."

That's a long way of saying that Joffe faces real (and perhaps imminent) criminal exposure. Let's talk about that for a moment. The bad news for Joffe is good reading for us.

The April 1, 2022 letter from Joffe's attorney to Sussmann's attorney. In this letter (available here with my highlights), Joffe's counsel confirmed that Joffe "remains a subject" of the Special Counsel's investigation. According to Andrew DeFilippis (from the Office of the Special Counsel), Joffe's "status in the investigation was sufficient to establish a good faith basis to invoke the privilege against self-incrimination."
More HERE
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Non-attorney here... But doesn't this seem to get back to Durham telling Sussman, "We are advising you to get new attorneys, your best interest is not their goal here."

Seems like Sussman's attorney's are continuing to use Sussman's case to try to get Durham to show more and more of his cards so they can be prepared for what the other Co-Conspirator's have coming for them.

Why else would they care about Joffe? Especially with regards to "immunity"...
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Maybe the right people getting immunity has the effect of shielding the remainder regarding more serious matters?

I seem to remember with the IRS scandal, so many immunity deals were handed out there was not enough left to build a case against anyone involved.
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From same link above.

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Sussmann's attorney argues that Joffe would provide favorable testimony, including:
[ol]
  • Sussmann and Joffe agreed that the information should be conveyed to the FBI and the CIA to help the government.
  • The information was conveyed to the FBI to provide a heads-up that newspaper outlets were going to publish a story about links between Alfa Bank and the Trump Organization.
  • The researchers and Mr. Joffe himself held a good faith belief in the analysis that was shared with the FBI, and Mr. Sussmann accordingly and reasonably believed the data and analysis were accurate.
  • [/ol]Again, Sussmann likely loses on this front.

    And While this gives us information on the Sussmann/Joffe relationship, it also gives an insight into Sussmann's anticipated defense at trial. Unfortunately for Sussmann, there are powerful rebuttals to these points, most notably that the Sussmann/Joffe team was pushing the Alfa/Trump story to the press in the first place; the researchers' doubts about the Alfa/Trump "evidence"; and how Joffe was in communications with Fusion GPS.

    I can't stress enough how much BS this is. We have often discussed within this thread the concept of circular sourcing. Stories are planted in the press to make it seem like there are other sources as corroboration of the info being peddled to the FBI. But all of it is coming from the same source.
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    will25u
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    If anyone doesn't like me posting a semi short thread like this, just let me know, and I'll just include the first tweet or two.





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    Keep doing it. I don't have a twitter account so it's helpful.
    whatthehey78
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    In the end, I hope the SC (Durham) takes on the attitude towards the conspirators of Pee Wee Herman's cyclist captors/friends (?), i.e., "first we hang 'em, then we shoot 'em, then we drown 'em, and THEN we kill 'em!"
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    whatthehey78 said:

    Again...can we expect any news/decisions today or this week????


    Had enough? Durham also has filings tomorrow.

    Also here is a good read by TechnoFog...



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    FJB said:

    will25u said:

    RyanM58699717 said:

    A conspiracy is going to be charged. And the DNC hack will be traced back to Sussmann and Joffe. At that point the burden of proof is low for those committing overt acts.
    Ryan, what happened???


    For anyone with access, ryan is on Truth Social.

    Not entirely sure. Haven't been given an explanation or anything noting the specific tweets. Best as I can tell, they are alleging I perpetuated a targeted harassment campaign against Dawson. One of his minions has taken credit for reporting me (it was one tweet).

    Really weird.

    I wish it had happened tonight instead of last night with the massive filings dropping last night.

    will25u
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    Thanks for letting us know. Hopefully you get it sorted out. Have you posted anything for the filings that we can read?
    RyanM58699717
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    Not really. Devin Nunes boosted me up on Truth so I guess I sort've have to post there now haha
    will25u
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    I'm Android, so I don't have that option. Ahhh well.
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