Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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will25u said:

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will25u said:

So... Not to bring Q over here, but did we know about these chat logs before '20?

Q posted these chat logs years ago. Like 2018 years ago....


Yeah and these chat grabs were posted on the dark web within 24 hrs of them happening live in 2017 because there was an insider going by "FreshCamel" that was capturing this stuff live supposedly.

I don't know crap about Q other than he was a guy named Ron Watkins supposedly outed as a fraud and his father started 4chan before selling it to someone else. I'm not going to deliberate this Q stuff one way or another, I'm simply trying to connect the dots.

If you think Ive got it all wrong fine, ignore it, I'm going to keep digging because Durham's reveals are starting to merge with things documented 2 and 4 years ago in this 1300 plus pade spy novel y'all have written here that is turning out to be a non-fiction book and I find it fascinating


We aren't disparaging you. Thank you for the digging that you were doing. I appreciate it.

We are just saying that there's some correlation to what you're saying now with what you had posted before.
Agreed. I don't believe in coincidence, which is why I really need some popcorn as this keeps progressing. Its also why I asked about Xbox. We had seen this chat or something akin to it long ago. I would go and confirm but sadly cannot.
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Threads converge again but only one's left…
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I got about 2/3 of the way through your post and wanted to have the proverbial poster board on the wall with all of the connections, ala tv detective shows. However, I soon realized unless it's a 40 foot long mural wall, we won't have enough cardboard.

Outstanding work!

Thank you!

Oh, Durham is going to need more attorneys. The absolute breadth of this thing will require a super computer to link all of the tentacles together.

My control-freak nature desperately wants to see these *******s in a South American jail, and temporarily restore a little belief in my country. But I'm getting to the point to where Durham needs to be allowed to finish his work JUST to find out who did what, where, how, and all of the clandestine actors involved.

This is just astounding!
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Following all of this for years, it is just mind-blowing that some of this is really coming to light and also how long it has taken to get to this point. I'm both hopeful and so disappointed in what America is today. Because of godless leftists.
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Margot Cleveland - The Federalist.

Special Counsel John Durham Is Opening Up About His Spygate Investigation, But Why?

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Letting the defendants know, in court filings, some of the evidence they have, which could result in additional charges, might prompt cooperation in a way that plea negotiations can't.

Similarly, with only three indictments handed down to date former DOJ lawyer Kevin Clinesmith being the third the Special Counsel's office may want to encourage cooperation by other as-of-yet uncharged players. Or maybe he wants to make someone nervous, who then unwittingly incriminates himself (or herself) in conversations with other cooperating witnesses.

The Special Counsel's office may instead (or may also) be using the speaking court filings to ensure the investigation is not prematurely shut down by the Biden Administration. The details included in the latest filings, when coupled with revelations in earlier court documents, make it politically impossible at this point for Attorney General Merrick Garland to pull the plug on Durham.

Another possibility is that the Special Counsel's office wants those inside the government rattled. If so, the tactic worked beautifully when he filed the "discovery update" that called out the OIG for its failure to provide Baker's cell phone and the complete file related to the "cyber matter" Joffe had fed them through Sussmann.
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Kimberley A. Strassel - WSJ

Who Are Those 'Techies' Who Spied on Trump?

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The researchers claim that by July 2016 they were alarmed by the security implications of their data, mined from government information. Yet they didn't go to the government. Mr. Joffe instead went to Democrats - namely Mr. Sussmann, the Perkins Coie lawyer who in the summer of 2016 was regularly identified in the press as an attorney for the Democratic National Committee. The Sussmann indictment notes a meeting Mr. Joffe had with Marc Elias, the Perkins Coie attorney for the Clinton campaign. And a deposition by a Fusion GPS staffer as part of continuing Alfa Bank litigation says Mr. Joffe attended a meeting with Peter Fritsch, a co-founder of Fusion GPS. Was he still confused about the partisan nature of this project?

He certainly couldn't have been two years later. By that point, the roles Perkins Coie and Fusion played in funneling information to the FBI for Clinton were well known, while Fusion had gone on to team up with former Democratic staffer Dan Jones to keep advancing the claims. Mr. Joffe sat for that October 2018 New Yorker piece that pushed the Alfa claims, anonymously calling himself "Max" and admitting in the piece that he'd continued to help that effort long after the election, providing Mr. Jones's team with 37 million internet records to examine. (A deposition in the Alfa litigation identified Mr. Joffe as Max.)

Here's the most revealing bit: "Max" also explained to the New Yorker how vitally important it was in 2016 to make sure the threat his team discovered was "known before the election." Which was why he and his lawyer first went with their information to the press. The Sussmann indictment says Mr. Sussmann tried peddling the data to the New York Times in late August 2016. He didn't approach the FBI until the middle of September. Mr. Joffe's spokesperson declined to comment.
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Fire up the Q thread. Bring it back. Click on that 'restore thread' button, come on: Let's Go Brandon!
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benchmark said:

Kimberley A. Strassel - WSJ

Who Are Those 'Techies' Who Spied on Trump?

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The researchers claim that by July 2016 they were alarmed by the security implications of their data, mined from government information. Yet they didn't go to the government. Mr. Joffe instead went to Democrats - namely Mr. Sussmann, the Perkins Coie lawyer who in the summer of 2016 was regularly identified in the press as an attorney for the Democratic National Committee. The Sussmann indictment notes a meeting Mr. Joffe had with Marc Elias, the Perkins Coie attorney for the Clinton campaign. And a deposition by a Fusion GPS staffer as part of continuing Alfa Bank litigation says Mr. Joffe attended a meeting with Peter Fritsch, a co-founder of Fusion GPS. Was he still confused about the partisan nature of this project?

He certainly couldn't have been two years later. By that point, the roles Perkins Coie and Fusion played in funneling information to the FBI for Clinton were well known, while Fusion had gone on to team up with former Democratic staffer Dan Jones to keep advancing the claims. Mr. Joffe sat for that October 2018 New Yorker piece that pushed the Alfa claims, anonymously calling himself "Max" and admitting in the piece that he'd continued to help that effort long after the election, providing Mr. Jones's team with 37 million internet records to examine. (A deposition in the Alfa litigation identified Mr. Joffe as Max.)

Here's the most revealing bit: "Max" also explained to the New Yorker how vitally important it was in 2016 to make sure the threat his team discovered was "known before the election." Which was why he and his lawyer first went with their information to the press. The Sussmann indictment says Mr. Sussmann tried peddling the data to the New York Times in late August 2016. He didn't approach the FBI until the middle of September. Mr. Joffe's spokesperson declined to comment.

Let's connect a few more dots during this time period. Late spring-summer 2016.

Perkins, Coie is also counsel for Google, which at that time is a large shareholder in a private company called Crowd Strike (has since gone public) and also foundations and PACs for Obama.

The Hillary email scandal is still a thorny issue in the FBI until Comey takes the step of calling a press conference to exonerate her on July 5th. Which was a few weeks after the Bill Clinton/Loretta Lynch tango on the tarmac. Also during this time frame, Strzok made a few attempts to get FISA warrants on unknown people connected to the Trump campaign that were actually denied by the FISA courts.

And of course there was the alleged "hack" of the DNC and DNCCC and the involvement of Assange and wikileaks. Fusion, GPS has made a run at Trump directly using the Russian lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya meeting with Kushner, Don Jr and Manafort at Trump Tower.
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Excellent work on explaining the communications. Being that the release of that communication was several years ago makes it that more fascinating, especially with S and GT representing Sussman and Georgia Tech.
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ROFLMAO...... Durham? "politicize" and "inflame"?

Seriously? I don't think it is possible for the special counsel team to be more quite and in control of the information in their possession. The dems on the other hand? The most dangerous place in the country is between a lib and a camera.
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aggiehawg said:

Let's connect a few more dots during this time period. Late spring-summer 2016.
Indeed. Fast fwd to April 2019 and recall Barr's infamous response when asked about spying on Trump's campaign by Sen Shaheen ... "yes, I think spying did occur. The question is whether it was predicated, adequately predicated ... I am not saying improper surveillance occurred. I am saying I am concerned about it, and I am looking into it,"

Barr was mostly referencing predicated FBI surveillance during Trump's 2016 campaign. Little did he know. That was almost 3 yrs ago.
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What if S is Strzok....

And the "Limey" is Stephen Halper as he was in London and on the FBI payroll, or technically the DoD to seed out false info about Flynn.

In the chat they're talking about creating an article on Flynn & his ties to Turkey. "Friends in NY" are certainly NYT reporters.

Look at what was tweeted the same day as this chat conversation



Here's the article via wayback machine

https://web.archive.org/web/20220107084707/https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/us/politics/michael-flynn-donald-trump-national-security-adviser.html

The headline reads: "Trump Team Knew Flynn Was Under Investigation Before He Came to White House"

Gotta go dig threw the Strzok texts
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Secolobo said:

Threads converge again but only one's left…


The overlords couldn't have the Q thread .. it contained Way Way toooo much real evidence, it was out of control for them .
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In the chat they're talking about creating an article on Flynn & his ties to Turkey. "Friends in NY" are certainly NYT reporters.
I have long suspected that the Turkish deal was a set-up for Flynn, a FARA trap. But that raises the question of the direct involvement of Flynn's lawyers at Covington & Burling. Flynn asked them to do a review of the deal and prepare whatever federal disclosures were required. And then a few months later after Trump won and Flynn was on the transition team, he received the FARA notice and asked them to handle the matter as he was winding down his Flynn Intelligence Group business affairs.

Again, they dropped the ball. And had Flynn sign a document that was misleading. And then when Flynn was charged by information (despite the lack of intent to mislead nor violate the statute) Covington & Burling should have recused themselves, the entire firm and instructed Flynn to obtain separate criminal counsel. They did not.
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Good dig …. The wheels aren't off but the lug nutts are loose
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With an irrelevant comment, for the last three weeks, I've heard Crowdstrike commercials on the ESPNU channel 84 on Sirius/XM.

I don't care, except for the fact it's the first time I've ever seen, or heard, an ad for Crowdstrike, and why the hell would they advertise on that channel?

My ears only perked up due to the name and my automatic mental scorn.
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fasthorse05 said:

With an irrelevant comment, for the last three weeks, I've heard Crowdstrike commercials on the ESPNU channel 84 on Sirius/XM.

I don't care, except for the fact it's the first time I've ever seen, or heard, an ad for Crowdstrike, and why the hell would they advertise on that channel?

My ears only perked up due to the name and my automatic mental scorn.


They advertise on FNC regularly
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fasthorse05 said:

With an irrelevant comment, for the last three weeks, I've heard Crowdstrike commercials on the ESPNU channel 84 on Sirius/XM.

I don't care, except for the fact it's the first time I've ever seen, or heard, an ad for Crowdstrike, and why the hell would they advertise on that channel?

My ears only perked up due to the name and my automatic mental scorn.
Apropos of nothing other than Ukraine is in the news, remember it was Crowd Strike that issued a deeply flawed report about Russians using Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear to mess with Ukraine's military. I think that was in 2014, 2015. At the time our CIA and State Department were feeding and encouraging the Maidan Revolution that deposed Yanukovych.
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Speaking of Halper….will he become a target of Durham?

What about Carter Page? I haven't followed his situation lately but does he have any lawsuits against the government?
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BillYeoman said:

Speaking of Halper….will he become a target of Durham?

What about Carter Page? I haven't followed his situation lately but does he have any lawsuits against the government?
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The Supreme Court on Monday declined to review a defamation lawsuit brought by former Trump campaign official Carter Page against the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and others linked to the controversial Steele dossier.

The court's order was issued without comment or noted dissent, in keeping with common practice.

Page had appealed to the Supreme Court after his lawsuit was dismissed in the lower courts on procedural grounds.
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aggiehawg said:

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In the chat they're talking about creating an article on Flynn & his ties to Turkey. "Friends in NY" are certainly NYT reporters.
I have long suspected that the Turkish deal was a set-up for Flynn, a FARA trap. But that raises the question of the direct involvement of Flynn's lawyers at Covington & Burling. Flynn asked them to do a review of the deal and prepare whatever federal disclosures were required. And then a few months later after Trump won and Flynn was on the transition team, he received the FARA notice and asked them to handle the matter as he was winding down his Flynn Intelligence Group business affairs.

Again, they dropped the ball. And had Flynn sign a document that was misleading. And then when Flynn was charged by information (despite the lack of intent to mislead nor violate the statute) Covington & Burling should have recused themselves, the entire firm and instructed Flynn to obtain separate criminal counsel. They did not.
Would that be malpractice, or just incompetence from his legal team (or malice aforethought)?

You've been on his legal representation at Covington & Burling from the word go. I remember because of your passion. I just assumed you were correct, but never really understood why until this reply.

What wankers!!

And wonder if Steadman (Eric Holder) had anything to do with it. BTW, the NFL just hired Loretta Lynch to defend themselves against the ex-Dolphins coach's lawsuit of discrimination.
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n December 2019, the Justice Department's inspector general released a report detailing multiple inaccuracies and omissions in the surveillance warrant applications targeting Page that were submitted to the court associated with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Page alleged in his legal complaint that the dossier "mobilized the news media against Dr. Page, damaging his reputation, and effectively destroying his once-private life."
Isn't the last paragraph correct, or was their not enough evidence to move forward with the suit?
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fasthorse05 said:

aggiehawg said:

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In the chat they're talking about creating an article on Flynn & his ties to Turkey. "Friends in NY" are certainly NYT reporters.
I have long suspected that the Turkish deal was a set-up for Flynn, a FARA trap. But that raises the question of the direct involvement of Flynn's lawyers at Covington & Burling. Flynn asked them to do a review of the deal and prepare whatever federal disclosures were required. And then a few months later after Trump won and Flynn was on the transition team, he received the FARA notice and asked them to handle the matter as he was winding down his Flynn Intelligence Group business affairs.

Again, they dropped the ball. And had Flynn sign a document that was misleading. And then when Flynn was charged by information (despite the lack of intent to mislead nor violate the statute) Covington & Burling should have recused themselves, the entire firm and instructed Flynn to obtain separate criminal counsel. They did not.
Would that be malpractice, or just incompetence from his legal team (or malice aforethought)?

You've been on his legal representation at Covington & Burling from the word go. I remember because of your passion. I just assumed you were correct, but never really understood why until this reply.

What wankers!!

And wonder if Steadman (Eric Holder) had anything to do with it. BTW, the NFL just hired Loretta Lynch to defend themselves against the ex-Dolphins coach's lawsuit of discrimination.
The problem came to a head during the plea negotiations for Flynn. C&B lawyers were threatened that their crap would be exposed if they didn't get Flynn to take the deal and plead guilty. That's a Giglio violation and Flynn should have been told of C&B's conflict of interest and of the threats.

They are also threatening Flynn's son during all of this.
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Only 46??? What a shocker.... NOT

Let me guess it's the usual suspects that are missing.....

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The only Republican senators to not sign the letter were Sens. Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Mitt Romney and Bill Cassidy.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
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akm91 said:

Only 46??? What a shocker.... NOT

Let me guess it's the usual suspects that are missing.....

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The only Republican senators to not sign the letter were Sens. Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Mitt Romney and Bill Cassidy.

just like the four that were too busy to vote on defunding Biden's vax mandate so it passed by one vote.

Seriously, these PoS need to be gone from political life forever.
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will25u said:

So... Not to bring Q over here, but did we know about these chat logs before '20?

Q posted these chat logs years ago. Like 2018 years ago....
Fiction becomes reality.
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akm91 said:

Only 46??? What a shocker.... NOT

Let me guess it's the usual suspects that are missing.....

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The only Republican senators to not sign the letter were Sens. Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Mitt Romney and Bill Cassidy.

Those four also couldn't be bothered to vote on an amendment to end masking and vaccine mandates.
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If people haven't figured out that Mitt Romney is a leftist, they aren't paying attention.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

If people haven't figured out that Mitt Romney is a leftist, they aren't paying attention.
He's just one of many fake Republicans.
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This is a remarkable clip. Russell Brand is a bleeding heart lib that gives me hope. He is one of the few willing to accept facts.

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Ellis Wyatt said:

If people haven't figured out that Mitt Romney is a leftist, they aren't paying attention.
It's been documented that one of his sons has been a wing man to Hunter Biden for several years in business dealings.

Mittens actions are anything but surprising.
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Strangely enough Russell Brand does more and better investigative journalism than 99.9% of actual American journalists.
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sicandtiredTXN said:

VaultingChemist said:

FJB said:

Is this an Xbox chat by chance or what medium / platform is this from?

Oh goody and now you have all the groundwork for a nice conspiracy charge case, with multiple conspirants involving ongoing criminal activity by knowingly committing federal felonies, these are the exact communications I said Durham likely has and these communications allow the government to prove two or more individuals conspired to defraud the government and it shows the willingness the conspirators violated all the secure protocols for communications, by bypassing the secure comms in the commission of multiple felonies. And actually there could be two separate types of conspiracies going on here which makes it even better. You have an agreement to commit an offense against the United States, namely the unauthorized data-mining itself and an agreement to defraud the United States. by willingly trying to avoid scrutiny by using this Xbox platform to circumvent the very government they were contracted to work for that in itself establishes a conspiracy, Problem is this is where DARPA (military) caught them.

This is the very stuff Kash Patel was warning about, and it so happen Kash's connection to DARPA and the MIA run deep. I'm guessing Durham has every bit of this in the bundle gathered by Kash Patel while he was the number two for John Ratcliffe and Ratcliffe has told Maria Bartiromo multiple times that he turned over tens of thousands of communications supporting his case and that many indictment are coming.



Oh look, this sounds like seeding the clouds to cause friction to a sitting POTUS. Obviously RR is Rod Rosenstien


To me the most disturbing part of that chat blurb was the "RR isn't taking *****..and he knows our friends have stuff on him"

There have been alot of people who suddenly lose interest in doing the right thing and inexplicably join the wrong side on things in DC, not the least of which was John Roberts' Obamacare vote and spinelessness since that moment. I have assumed that "they" have stuff on him too, but it is still shocking to see it said out loud that they are openly threatening blackmail against public officials, likely using information gained through Federal spy agencies or through illicitly funded illegal hacking.
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