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Hawg, Will, et al, I realize Elias opened his own firm several months back, and I realize I'm jumping quite a few steps here, but assuming the good guys are able to nail Elias on just one felony indictment, would Perkins, Coie be open for damages in the form of a suit?

And, what is the status of the other two Trump individuals who were simply working on the campaign? I know they had suits against a couple of entities, but I can't remember who.

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My very strong suspicion is that the other partners at P&C made the decision to tell Elias to GTFO since he was continuing the cover up and was still actively involved in election fraud in 2020.

One thing I did note back when this whole thing started years ago was that Perkins, Coie immediately opened up their billing records. (Granted, those are not protected by privilege so fighting that was pointless.) But it leant towards the narrative they were being upfront and honest. They actually were not.

Follow me for a moment here. Who could hack into P&C billing records and...ahem...make adjustments? Crowd Strike could. Their client.

Crowd Strike faked a "Russian hack" of the DNS and DNCCC. Why not some law firm billing records?

And then several years later, the law firm records don't match the legal expenses on their client's tax returns?

Who was lying? Took Durham a long time to get there but he's there now.

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And it was the word of Crowdstrike that was the sole source for all those denying that Seth Rich very well was the reason that the DNC DNCC emails came out exposing how the DNC stacked the deck on Bernie, who by the way Seth Rich was a Bernie Bro himself. The whole Russian Hacker was complete nonsense and Seth Rich knew it, and likely was killed to keep him silent because if he talks that debunks the entire Russian narrative that was fabricated to get Trump in the first place. It's crazy how all of this fits together

I bet Julian Assange's attorneys are paying close attention to Durham's cases. Assange became Public enemy number one because of Hillary's emails.

It's going to be hilarious when someone informs this idiot Louise Mensch crony that Durham didn't just watch the statute of limitation deadline pass because in all conspiracy cases, the statute of limitations doesn't start until the conspiracy ends, just as AggieHawg said just a few posts back and has said numerous times all over this 1300 plus pages of watching this entire mess.

Oh no!!!!

Who's going to tell poor Ric that Durham just watched a statute of limitation deadline pass while doing nothing this week?https://t.co/LTzqPoRPYU pic.twitter.com/JivUdGcJPg

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) February 13, 2022

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It's going to be hilarious when someone informs this idiot Louise Mensch crony that Durham didn't just watch the statute of limitation deadline pass because in all conspiracy cases, the statute of limitations doesn't start until the conspiracy ends, just as AggieHawg said just a few posts back and has said numerous times all over this 1300 plus pages of watching this entire mess.

Oh no!!!!

Who's going to tell poor Ric that Durham just watched a statute of limitation deadline pass while doing nothing this week?https://t.co/LTzqPoRPYU pic.twitter.com/JivUdGcJPg

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) February 13, 2022

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Her column and the comments show we live in two different realities.

She doesn't seem to understand tolling the SoL would be good for Durham.

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— FOOL NELSON (@FOOL_NELSON) February 13, 2022

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This is the most important post in the entirety of Russiagate.

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I bet Julian Assange's attorneys are paying close attention to Durham's cases. Assange became Public enemy number one because of Hillary's emails.

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He was their enemy before the email crap. Many Republicans considered him an enemy.

Like Snowden, truth and sunshine bring the status quo down. They cannot allow that to happen.

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Unlike the Lefty myopic, ignorant, sycophants, I care a great deal who's involved, Republican and Democrat. I've got a couple of ideas who the Republicans would be, but it's all circumstantial. Thanks for the follow up.

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— FOOL NELSON (@FOOL_NELSON) February 13, 2022

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Paging peacedude! White courtesy phone please. He knows about Georgia Tech, at least a part of it.

Speaking of Louise Mensch, if I recall correctly it was her website "Heat Street" that first started seeding the clouds about this Alfa Bank pinging server nonsense, back in Oct 2016 two days after the first FISA warrant on Carter Page was signed.

Mensch clearly either had a close contact in the FBI or was being fed this by someone in that very tight circle in Comey's team handling the Clinton email/Trump Russia hit teams. It's no coincidence that she was exposing the narrative that was to proceed the FISA warrant.

And speaking of FISA warrants, that the first was issued in Oct 2016, according to Durham, this Joffe Tech team was inside Trump's servers all the way back to 2014, which I know has been mentioned in this 1300+ pages many times that they were spying on Trump long before he ever came down that escalator. If Joffe had access then the FBI had access sure enough.

Where is Mensch today? Radio silence speaking through these idiots like Empty Wheel I suppose.

BTW, Joffe didn't look at all like I expected him to.

It always amazes me the lengths the true believers (acolytes) will go to supporting their beloved socialists. Conservatives generally don't do that. Our God's tend to be other things, and not involving loss of freedom in prison.

Trump didn't announce he was running until May or June 2015 after a conversation with Bill Clinton. What were they doing spying on him in 2014?

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— FOOL NELSON (@FOOL_NELSON) February 13, 2022

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Paging peacedude! White courtesy phone please. He knows about Georgia Tech, at least a part of it.

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Aslo about GA Tech, if you read the Durham filing in reference to Joffe and GA Tech it describes them having access but not complete content!

Hawg that sounds really similar to Nation Letter Surveillance to me. Was that the premise they were going to hide behind if caught?

That won't explain a third party contractor having National Letter powers, unless that's an actual thing at the FBI and that would be a bombshell to the whole Patriot Act if that's common practice. I mean The NSA contracts out most of their surveillance to Booz Allen, so maybe that's what was going on with GA Tech and Joffe and that could be used as a plausible deniability defense by Comey and company perhaps. Hmmm this is a really complex mess.

People claiming about Durham taking so long need to really kick themselves in the balls because this is one of the most complex messes in history he's trying to untangle in a way that will produce prosecutable cases and convictions.

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Trump didn't announce he was running until May or June 2015 after a conversation with Bill Clinton. What were they doing spying on him in 2014?

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He wasn't the only one they were spying on.

The 12 original CEH profs in the DoD/CISA proposal were under this *3-year* (pic) DoD-mandated umbrella ("cyber" co in San Antonio...the CEH's were at the GA fort near Augusta). What side they chose (if any) would hopefully be on the ethical side. The rt. Col heading it all up moved on 10/2020. I was the CMMI SCAMPI Team Lead for the CMMI appraisal.

No NDA broken & hopefully I chose wisely. Really oblivious as to what all they are capable of, but there's enough that's happened right there in GA (CDC, pipeline hack, Happy Faces, Brad R, etc.) to perk one's ears. Their credentials were stellar (cyber PhDs and Masters just for kicks):

Thread. Sussman filing.

She is still going.

THREAD BREAKING: Sussmann's attorney's aren't happy with Durham. Filed today. pic.twitter.com/2XvWLEzkbG

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) February 15, 2022

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Trump didn't announce he was running until May or June 2015 after a conversation with Bill Clinton. What were they doing spying on him in 2014?

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He wasn't the only one they were spying on.

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No. Ted Cruz and Rand Paul were other confirmed examples.

This clown from the NYTimes is on overdrive trying to change the narrative, just look at his tweets over the last two days

Here's the latest

“Fox News inaccurately declared that Mr. Durham had said he had evidence that Hillary Clinton’s campaign had paid a technology company to ‘infiltrate’ a White House server” https://t.co/rP4QYtXaPj

— Mike McIntire (@mmcintire) February 15, 2022

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Just as it was incredibly suspect for the FBI to use a Clinton campaign contractor, Fusion GPS/Steele, for its conspiracy probe, it is incredibly suspect that the FBI use a Clinton campaign contractor, Crowdstrike, in its DNC-Russia hacking probe.

Public deserves answers.

— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) February 15, 2022

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Are people really learning just now that CrowdStrike was a Google controlled company and had Perkins, Coie as counsel, too?

Jeebus! I knew that years ago.

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This guy Aaron Mate has been pretty good in the past as a muckraker, not sure how they couldn't all see the deep ties of Shawn Henry to all those running both the Hillary email investigation, the so called DNC hack, and the Russia Hoax on Trump, including the fact that Henry was a top tier disciple of Mueller's in the FBI. It was Crowdstrike feeding all the so called Hacking nonsense to the FBI and were the only one's to have access to the DNC DNCC servers they claimed were hacked, and Shawn Henry was front and cent er on all of that, Comey testified that Crowdstrike was so reliable that there was no need for the actual FBI to see the server. In fact if you look at the historical huge hacks being looked into by the FBI, since Shawn Henry retired from the Bureau in 2012 and immediately became the Executive President of Crowdstrike, that Crowdstrike was the point person for EVERY major hacking investigation going on at the FBI. Crowdstrike was just a contractual extension of the FBI and sounded like the Bureau's hub for cyber security and cyber investigations.

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So Fbi cybersecurity contractor manned by former fbi employees and with close ties to the DNC and Clinton campaign was involved in a conspiracy to unseat a duly elected Republican president of the US? Daaaammmn. Worse than Wategate. Next shoe to drop would be a special counsel to investigate Bidens involvement. He and Jake Sullivan were both involved.

That has to have some sort of ethical consequences for a lawyer to use a case to see how much the prosecution has on a bigger case correct?

There are some pretty strict ethical rules that accountants/CPAs must follow (if they want to remain accountants/CPAs) and can almost be put under the microscope with the board through letters from the public (not sure how often that had happened in NC). Is this one of those (D)ifferent sort of situations, where normal people would be run over and did-barred and the like, but he, being of the mighty Enron task force, will skate by?

If goes to trial, the deck is already rigged and Suussmen is going to get off anyway or will Durham possibly really be able to put the screws to him to make him turn?

Happy to see this thread not leave the home page again. Thanks for all the work contributors and for those answering questions for the plebs like me!

To days ago when the filing went public, NYTimes Clown went straight to the four year playbook.

"Oh look, Manafort gave secrets to Russia!"

What a joke. Manafort shared "public polling data" with his long time business partner Konstantin Kilimnik! These Pulitzer Prize winning clowns are desperate.

‘Durham’ is trending, so here’s a periodic reminder that Trump’s campaign chairman secretly met and shared info with a Russian intelligence agent, presenting what a GOP-led Senate committee called "a grave counterintelligence threat" pic.twitter.com/TNoET6qDAu

— Mike McIntire (@mmcintire) February 12, 2022

Not directly related to the Durham cases, but more of the NYTimes dangling shiny objects to distract from Durham. Ole die hard Trump Hater Maggie Haberman throwing up smoke about the AG filing today about Trump taxes and how they are no longer reliable. The NY AG fought tooth and Nail to get Mazars disqualified to make the corrections and refile due to perceived conflict of interests. SO another firm is going to have to do the edits and refile, but reading the submission by Mazars shows more than what they are talking about.

In their haste to distract the reason to refile is because of some errors that now shows that Trump OVERPAID his taxes!!!! Not the part I marked in red.

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However, if those returns are filed late, there may be a late filing penalty of
$10,000 per return, which will likely be subject to abatement. We also believe that due to prior
tax payments, there was an overpayment of taxes, thus, there should be no late payment
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What happened to the Trump paid Zero taxes for 15 years narrative, they were pushing during the election cycle, and carried it over that every democrat in front of a microphone would say "What is Trump hiding? That he didn't pay his fair share?


Looks like DJT paid more than his fair share

AG James’ office has submitted a court filing Re Trump case that includes a letter from his company’s accounting firm saying nearly a decade worth of financial statements can no longer be relied upon. pic.twitter.com/sDUcDF1BEd

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) February 14, 2022

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This clown from the NYTimes is on overdrive trying to change the narrative, just look at his tweets over the last two days

Here's the latest

“Fox News inaccurately declared that Mr. Durham had said he had evidence that Hillary Clinton’s campaign had paid a technology company to ‘infiltrate’ a White House server” https://t.co/rP4QYtXaPj

— Mike McIntire (@mmcintire) February 15, 2022

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Exactly what I said. Durham knows it.

This guy still thinks that proving it is the saving grace in that he can't .

This is what has happened to our country. In years past when a political leader was surrounded in the much controversy, they stepped down. Mostly all republicans, by the way. Shaming technique worked.




When people actually felt any shame for lying and committing crimes.

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Exactly right.

Another key reason for the different reactions to shameful conduct is the media. It is the media that is supposed to hold our public "servants" accountable, that brings the heat for shameful conduct and makes continued service in public office impossible. The media is great at doing that if you're a Republican, especially a conservative Republican, but it becomes an apologist if the culprit is a Democrat, especially a liberal Democrat.

Look at the difference in how the media treated Larry Craig and Barney Frank, as just one of almost innumerable examples.

MSM FINALLY picking stuff up. Only ATLEAST 2 years late.

A tech executive “exploited” his access to computer data at the Trump White House to find “derogatory information” about fmr. President Trump, a special counsel appointed during the Trump administration says. https://t.co/fCSZgOX1Ch

— NBC News (@NBCNews) February 15, 2022

Please allow me to ask what is perhaps an ill-informed question: whatever happened to Qaddafi's billions? I remember reading several years ago that Sidney Blumenthal was texting/emailing Hillary about locating and seizing it. Was it ever found and seized? If so, who got it? Did Hillary personally get some of it?

Making sure to discredit Durham because he was "appointed during the Trump administration."

What We Learned From Michael Sussmann’s Response To The Spygate Special Counsel https://t.co/9cShykQv20

— Mollie (@MZHemingway) February 15, 2022