Why did Sussman bring up the phones? Does he believe there is exculpatory information on them (i.e., You're God damned right Baker ordered the Code Red) and he refuses to be the fall guy? If that's the case, shouldn't Sussman's phone have evidence of that fact as the recipient of any messages, thus rendering Baker's phones irrelevant?

Or, does Sussman just want to watch the world burn?

And is there any doubt whatsoever that those phones haven't already been completely erased just like all the other phones the IG catalogued in his earlier report?

I pray that your confidence is Durham's character and integrity is well founded. If I had the faith of a mustard seed in the DoJ I would like to believe that there is one honest man. If there is, he certainly never had an office at main justice of the seventh floor of FBI headquarters.

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So, @RyanM58699717 got an interest cache of documents from GA Tech via Right To Know Law. https://t.co/h3WkD8ekUH Note FBI has been working on Alfa angle since at least 2/12/21.

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) January 26, 2022

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Need help deciphering the significance of the tweet and documents.

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Explains it a little better. Thread.

2/ A few things of interested, but one for this thread. Alfa Bank had also subitted a right to know request. So I submitted a new one to Ga Tech asking for results sent to Alfa Bank. pic.twitter.com/1HE2Poi2Xb

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) January 28, 2022

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So the Georgia Tech researches had TDS
Some quotes from the article

• While Dagon may have been an expert in the data crunching, emails recently obtained by The Federalist from Georgia Tech reveal Dagon was something morehe was an anti-Trump, Russia-collusion conspiracy theorist.
• The 27-page speaking indictment then detailed the origins of the Alfa Bank story. In July 2016, a computer researcher, using the moniker "Tea Leaves" and referred to in the Sussmann indictment as "Originator-1," "had assembled purported DNS data reflecting apparent DNS lookups between Russian Bank-1 and an email domain, 'mail1.trump-email.com." "Tea Leaves," a business associate of Tech-Executive 1, shared her information with Tech-Executive 1 and others, with Tech-Executive 1 alerting Sussmann to the data.

Wasn't there a poster here that was 2 teas? (just a joke-don't crucify me)

• Emails obtained via an open records request to Georgia Tech, however, provide a picture of the politics behind the players who formulated and fed the Alfa Bank theory to Sussman, who in turn peddled it to the FBI. Some of the emails showed Joffe, Antonakakis, Dagon, and Lorenzen, or some combination of the four, merely exchanging media links of anti-Trump articles related to Trump or his team and supposed Russia connections.
• But after Trump's victory and later inauguration, the vitriol and tinfoil hattery lived loudly within emails Dagon sent.

Thanks for the information, was an entertaining read.

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Got it, thx. Unbelievable. I have no words.

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I do, the scumbags that perpetrated these crimes, and put the country through the fictional story about Russian collusion, deserve to meet justice.

They cost the country hundreds of millions of dollars (and obliquely trillions of dollars), ruined people's lives because they hated "orange man".

The fires of hell are not hot enough for these mf'ers.

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At this point the subject of treason and sedition should start being used. Someone charged accordingly may just flip in he conspirators.

I can't believe it hasn't unraveled yet. The massively organized politically motivated hit job is one of the worst kept secrets. Everyone has seen enough to know it happened even if they pretend like it didn't happen.

How this hasn't started to unravel yet is insane. Can you imagine the information these people have on each other to keep everyone quiet? It has to be at mutual-destruction levels.

I am still holding out hope that Durham is honest thorough and is allowed to seek the truth.

So far we have one minion pleading guilty get probation, 400 hours community service, no jail time and only loses his job. I believe what he did was a felony and should deserve jail time, loss of his license and prohibition from any government occupation. (an offense that carries a maximum term of imprisonment of five years and a fine of up to $250,000)

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I am still holding out hope that Durham is honest thorough and is allowed to seek the truth.

So far we have one minion pleading guilty get probation, 400 hours community service, no jail time and only loses his job. I believe what he did was a felony and should deserve jail time, loss of his license and prohibition from any government occupation. (an offense that carries a maximum term of imprisonment of five years and a fine of up to $250,000)

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I am with you there, but I have have this nagging feeling when he starts getting closer to the truth, he will be fully shutdown. Probably the only reason it hasn't happened so far is they don't know what he knows.

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Got it, thx. Unbelievable. I have no words.

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I do, the scumbags that perpetrated these crimes, and put the country through the fictional story about Russian collusion, deserve to meet justice.

They cost the country hundreds of millions of dollars (and obliquely trillions of dollars), ruined people's lives because they hated "orange man".

The fires of hell are not hot enough for these mf'ers.

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I agree with your post completely but bolded the middle part because, while it is true, for those at the top of DOJ (and State), they are protecting their graft and corruption. Trump was simply a threat to this and they had to take him out. Remember how on this thread we had hope that Horowitz was honest? Turns out the OIG was all about protecting the criminals in the DOJ.

Any thoughts on why Garland is allowing Durham to continue? He could shut Durham down tomorrow and the media would barely mention it and most Republicans would not say a word about it. This whole thing pretty much goes away. We know Garland will do whatever to protect the current system. I have no clue why he is letting this go on but am glad it is happening.

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Got it, thx. Unbelievable. I have no words.

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I do, the scumbags that perpetrated these crimes, and put the country through the fictional story about Russian collusion, deserve to meet justice.

They cost the country hundreds of millions of dollars (and obliquely trillions of dollars), ruined people's lives because they hated "orange man".

The fires of hell are not hot enough for these mf'ers.

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I agree with your post completely but bolded the middle part because, while it is true, for those at the top of DOJ (and State), they are protecting their graft and corruption. Trump was simply a threat to this and they had to take him out. Remember how on this thread we had hope that Horowitz was honest? Turns out the OIG was all about protecting the criminals in the DOJ.

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Not very surprising is it? Hopeful that Jim Jordan will carry the torch, have no doubt that McCarthy is a swamp rat. Not enough republicans are screaming about this. Nunes is gone.

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Got it, thx. Unbelievable. I have no words.

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I do, the scumbags that perpetrated these crimes, and put the country through the fictional story about Russian collusion, deserve to meet justice.

They cost the country hundreds of millions of dollars (and obliquely trillions of dollars), ruined people's lives because they hated "orange man".

The fires of hell are not hot enough for these mf'ers.

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I agree with your post completely but bolded the middle part because, while it is true, for those at the top of DOJ (and State), they are protecting their graft and corruption. Trump was simply a threat to this and they had to take him out. Remember how on this thread we had hope that Horowitz was honest? Turns out the OIG was all about protecting the criminals in the DOJ.

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Not very surprising is it? Hopeful that Jim Jordan will carry the torch, have no doubt that McCarthy is a swamp rat. Not enough republicans are screaming about this. Nunes is gone.

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So true. At least the Rs should take back the House and it really will be up to Jordan to carry the torch. Few others seem interested.

Those still doubting Durham and his intentions must either just must be chronic non believers or just not paying attention. The investigation appears to be growing and widening. That's not what usually happens in a sham investigation or a coverup. Taking on the in house OIG is a big step. I can understand initial skepticism, but if you are paying attention this is digging deep. This is how you flip the big players on the upper management. Perkins Coie has enough archives I'm sure to put all the top tier DC swamp under the jail.

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Those still doubting Durham and his intentions must either just must be chronic non believers or just not paying attention. The investigation appears to be growing and widening. That's not what usually happens in a sham investigation or a coverup. Taking on the in house OIG is a big step. I can understand initial skepticism, but if you are paying attention this is digging deep. This is how you flip the big players on the upper management. Perkins Coie has enough archives I'm sure to put all the top tier DC swamp under the jail.

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The reason there is so much hesitation, is because if it was truly a threat to the democrat establishment, the DOJ would shut it down. And not a word would be uttered by the MSM.

Garland is a partisan hack. He gets updates from Durham. He would shut it down quick fast and in a hurry if it was damning.

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Those still doubting Durham and his intentions must either just must be chronic non believers or just not paying attention. The investigation appears to be growing and widening. That's not what usually happens in a sham investigation or a coverup. Taking on the in house OIG is a big step. I can understand initial skepticism, but if you are paying attention this is digging deep. This is how you flip the big players on the upper management. Perkins Coie has enough archives I'm sure to put all the top tier DC swamp under the jail.

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Conservatives have been burned so badly in the past, get hopes up only to be dashed. I think most conservatives are hopeful but maintain healthy skepticism.

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Those still doubting Durham and his intentions must either just must be chronic non believers or just not paying attention. The investigation appears to be growing and widening. That's not what usually happens in a sham investigation or a coverup. Taking on the in house OIG is a big step. I can understand initial skepticism, but if you are paying attention this is digging deep. This is how you flip the big players on the upper management. Perkins Coie has enough archives I'm sure to put all the top tier DC swamp under the jail.

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Call it a BAS flare up (battered AMERICAN syndrome)

It is bad enough Durham has a major uphill battle, but with the crooks in charge of the government, I can see this shutdown before he can map everything out. I hope you are right, but I fear this is going to be like every other attempt to drain the swamp. You will have a few patsies take the fall for moderate charges, but the deepest rats will stay insulated in the swamp.

Again, I would love nothing more than this to blow it all up and force a lot of these *******s out of power/control.

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Those still doubting Durham and his intentions must either just must be chronic non believers or just not paying attention. The investigation appears to be growing and widening. That's not what usually happens in a sham investigation or a coverup. Taking on the in house OIG is a big step. I can understand initial skepticism, but if you are paying attention this is digging deep. This is how you flip the big players on the upper management. Perkins Coie has enough archives I'm sure to put all the top tier DC swamp under the jail.

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The reason there is so much hesitation, is because if it was truly a threat to the democrat establishment, the DOJ would shut it down. And not a word would be uttered by the MSM.

Garland is a partisan hack. He gets updates from Durham. He would shut it down quick fast and in a hurry if it was damning.

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This is so toxic unless Biden is going to fall on the sword, Garland won't touch this. Garland knows he's toast at the end of Biden's term. Biden's not going to be re-elected and I doubt he will even run regardless of what they say. If they run Joe again they are handing the White House to the republicans regardless of who represents them. Biden will be lucky if he's not impeached after 2022.

Garland doesn't want to be without a chair when the music stops, he himself may face removal after the midterm, and if he shut down Durham he's gone for certain. This entire thing is radioactive. and the blowback of shutting down Durham at this point is suicide

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I love your fire and pray you are right. I also wish you could get this to rub off on the freaking wussy R's who keep ending up in DC.

2/ Key here is Durham did not "admit" he was told about Baker's phone previously and in fact OIG never claimed that either--OIG wordsmithed to make it seem as if they had. But OIG's silence on withholding Sussmann-Joffe documents confirms that's just what they did.

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) January 31, 2022

4/4 I explain in detail what I discovered here: https://t.co/qZlLemgCKr

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) January 31, 2022

Wow. This is like Enemy of the State except the the bad guys are FBI agents and not CIA operatives.

Interesting thread.

2/ Rather, SC ("Special Counsel") merely told court here's what OIG said. SC didn't comment on that or how ridiculous it was but just repeated the claims. SC could have said that is nonsense but didn't. So what did OIG say? NOT that Durham knew about OIT having Baker's

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) January 31, 2022

Follow on to the previous

THREAD: So, yesterday I spent digging more on the phones FBI got access to. I've been trying to figure out what Durham's other investigation was that led to the mention of the phones. At first I assumed it was a leak investigation b/c Sessions was AG at that time. 1/

— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) February 1, 2022

will25u and Whitetail

Margot Cleveland is extraordinarily thorough. Thanks for the links.

Kinda getting into the weeds, but interesting nonetheless.

Durham's indictment of Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussman exposed that one of his other client's Rodney Joffe, illegally accessed govt databases to spy on Trump & his associates during the 2016 election. Data they claimed to have found in public data.https://t.co/NL1kBYSbmU

— DawsonSField (@DawsonSField) February 1, 2022

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Any investigation to remove "honest leaders" from the FBI and DOJ would be similar to running a fertilizer spreader on the 7th floor. Everything you spit out of the spreader is going to indict an FBI employee.

John le carre' writing couldn't hold a candle to this entire episode. Hell, it's possible it may be over the head of Durham too.

Man, what a story!

Isn't this the same Dawson clown that has defended James Comey for years and claims that Trump and his father have been FBI confidential informants for 40 years? This clown gets more than just in the weeds, he's in the Sequoia National forest.

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Isn't this the same Dawson clown that has defended James Comey for years and claims that Trump and his father have been FBI confidential informants for 40 years? This clown gets more than just in the weeds, he's in the Sequoia National forest.

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Is it Dawson? It may be FOOL_NELSON you are thinking of? Not sure. Nelson thinks that Comey et al are working with Durham to root out corruption. Which seems WAY too far out there.

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Isn't this the same Dawson clown that has defended James Comey for years and claims that Trump and his father have been FBI confidential informants for 40 years? This clown gets more than just in the weeds, he's in the Sequoia National forest.

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Is it Dawson? It may be FOOL_NELSON you are thinking of? Not sure. Nelson thinks that Comey et al are working with Durham to root out corruption. Which seems WAY too far out there.

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No it's Dawson I'm talking about, go back through this thread his tweets are laughed at throughout this thread.

That FBI white hat theory

Can't read the article, so I don't know what it says, but seems about 4 years too late.

Sorry about CNN link.

An NSA watchdog has found the agency failed to follow both court-approved and internal procedures designed to prevent officials from using a controversial foreign surveillance law to inappropriately monitor Americans' communications https://t.co/QNFiNzCnC2

— CNN (@CNN) February 1, 2022

But the fact that Durham seems to be continuing his pursuit without apparent interference suggests he's holding some key cards in his hand that the AG and Democrat activists in DOJ are aware of.

— Dr. Shipwreckedcrew.substack.com (@shipwreckedcrew) February 1, 2022

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But the fact that Durham seems to be continuing his pursuit without apparent interference suggests he's holding some key cards in his hand that the AG and Democrat activists in DOJ are aware of.

— Dr. Shipwreckedcrew.substack.com (@shipwreckedcrew) February 1, 2022

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I hope one of the cards he is holding is a deadman's switch to release everything he has to the public in the event he expires before bringing this to a conclusion.

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I hope one of the cards he is holding is a deadman's switch to release everything he has to the public in the event he expires before bringing this to a conclusion.

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Durham's insurance policy is his book deal.

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I hope one of the cards he is holding is a deadman's switch to release everything he has to the public in the event he expires before bringing this to a conclusion.

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Durham's insurance policy is his book deal.

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He has to still be alive to write a book.