Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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In reply to nortex97 • 9:06a, 1/26/22
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I'm assuming Biden and the dems can squash this investigation and bury it anytime they want. Is this not correct?
Yes. Biden can fire Durham as Special Counsel. Just like Nixon did to Archibald Cox.
Biden wouldn't have to. Garland would do it if the WaPo so much as writes an editorial suggesting he should.
Frankly, I'd be surprised if Garland hasn't opened an investigation on Durham!
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In reply to fasthorse05 • 9:09a, 1/26/22
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nortex97 said:
aggiehawg said:
Rockdoc said:
I'm assuming Biden and the dems can squash this investigation and bury it anytime they want. Is this not correct?
Yes. Biden can fire Durham as Special Counsel. Just like Nixon did to Archibald Cox.
Biden wouldn't have to. Garland would do it if the WaPo so much as writes an editorial suggesting he should.
Frankly, I'd be surprised if Garland hasn't opened an investigation on Durham!
John Durham did not kill himself.
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In reply to will25u • 9:37a, 1/26/22
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The Last Refuge, Sundance went down some very dark corridors.
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However, on its face the OIG not informing the Durham probe about them previously confirms what we previously outlined about how the information silos are used to contain and control information adverse to the interests of the DC system, writ large. Compartmentalization is how the corrupt enterprises of the Fourth Branch of Government, in this instance the DOJ, can bury information. It's a feature, not a flaw.

Why didn't you tell us you had the murder weapon? Well, you didn't ask… and so it goes.
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Unfortunately, when you start asking those types of questions, you start to get too close to the heart of the issue. The entire apparatus of the U.S. Dept of Justice and the FBI are corrupt. As to the bigger question: will the Durham probe finally outline all the evidence to prove all the years of deception and fraud perpetrated by the massive aligned system of corrupt government? My short and painful answer is, NO.
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If Durham was going to reveal the scale of corruption within these institutions, ie. what optimistic folks proclaim as possible; how is Durham going to handle the reality that Robert Mueller's entire existence was in place to hide it?
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Do we really think the same DOJ that facilitated, then defended, the targeting of parents at school board meetings would allow Durham to exist if he was a risk to their institution?

Or is it more likely that Bill Barr was the Bondo, and John Durham is the spray paint?
Hope he is wrong about Durham
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1:56p, 1/26/22
Good read.

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In reply to will25u • 2:06p, 1/26/22
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Need help deciphering the significance of the tweet and documents.
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In reply to richardag • 3:15p, 1/26/22
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will25u said:
Need help deciphering the significance of the tweet and documents.


No idea what it means. Ha.

Here have some more reading material.

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In reply to will25u • 3:26p, 1/26/22
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Thanks for linking to article. That helped a lot to get through all this information shared!
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In reply to will25u • 3:31p, 1/26/22
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Just read yesterday's TechnoFog's tweet with link to below article ... speculating that Durham's investigation may have pierced the shield of Perkins Coie's atty-client privilege on behalf of the Clinton campaign and DNC for services rendered by Crowdstrike, Fusion-GPS, Steele, etc, etc.

Durham: DNC lawyer Marc Elias has given grand jury testimony

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But consider the possibility that Durham has used the "crime-fraud exception" to compel disclosure of information otherwise subject to privilege and to help elicit testimony. "Under the crime-fraud exception, communications are not privileged when the client consults an attorney for advice that will serve him in the commission of a fraud or crime." In re Grand Jury Investigation, 810 F.3d 1110, 1113 (9th Cir. 2016) (citations omitted). To meet this burden, Durham had to show two things:
  • That the client was engaged in or planning a criminal or fraudulent scheme when it sought the advice of counsel to further the scheme.
  • That Durham demonstrated the attorney-client communications for which production is sought are sufficiently related to and were made in furtherance of the intended, or present, continuing illegality.
All this leads us to believe that Durham is focused on something more substantial than the false Alfa Bank allegations - perhaps the inception of it all: the claim of Russian hacking. As we have said before, consider the possibility that evidence of "Russian hacking" was placed by the DNC, Perkins Coie, et al. for Crowdstrike to conveniently "find."

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3:35p, 1/26/22
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I don't see anything happening.

Only way this makes sense is if there's a quiet Dem civil war going on between say Team Hillary and Team Obama. And this is a move by Team Obama to get rid of the Clintons once and for all.

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3:39p, 1/26/22
I love seeing all these wheels turn, and all the deducing people on Twitter can do with only the small amount of public information.

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In reply to will25u • 4:48p, 1/26/22
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richardag said:
will25u said:
Need help deciphering the significance of the tweet and documents.


No idea what it means. Ha.

Here have some more reading material.

Thanks
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9:11a, 1/27/22
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Good read.

Link: What Did Clinton Know and When Did She Know It? The Russiagate Evidence Builds
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In Durham's indictment of Sussmann for lying to the FBI about his work for the Clinton campaign while feeding them the Alfa Bank story, prosecutors revealed that Sussmann's partner Marc Elias kept Clinton campaign bigwigs in the loop about the project to manufacture a Trump-Russian bank conspiracy, which the FBI months later completely debunked. Emails obtained by Durham's investigators show the lawyer had briefed top Clinton campaign officials Sullivan, Palmieri and Mook about the Alfa smear in September 2016. "Elias kept Clinton campaign members informed," the indictment said.
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"Durham is telling us that this Alfa Bank hoax and probably related matters were Clinton campaign ops at the very highest level," former FBI counterintelligence agent and lawyer Mark Wauck noted. "How credible is it to suppose that Hillary herself wasn't in the know?"
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Former Bill Clinton political strategist Doug Schoen said it stretches credulity to suggest that top officials in the Clinton camp, including the candidate herself, weren't fully aware of the research their campaign attorney was billing them for.

"With more than 380 payments from the Clinton campaign and the DNC being made to Perkins Coie, it is seemingly impossible that the candidate herself would not have direct knowledge of the purpose of those payments or any earmarks being made, especially those for Fusion GPS," Schoen said.
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A senior congressional investigator who insisted on anonymity said the denials are hard to believe and described them as an effort to insulate Clinton from a major undertaking of her campaign that has proved scandalous, if not criminal. "The biggest lie is Hillary didn't know about any of this oppo stuff even though she tweeted about it!" he said.
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J.D. Gordon, who held a position roughly equivalent to (Jake) Sullivan's on the 2016 Trump campaign, said in an interview that he hopes Durham adds Sullivan and other Clinton aides to his criminal investigation, "if he hasn't already."

He suspects Sullivan was "the Russiagate hoax mastermind" and hopes that he and other members of Clinton's 2016 team as well as the candidate herself are subpoenaed for testimony and document production just as he and other Trump advisers were targeted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, based almost entirely on rumors started by the Clinton machine. He called the Clinton-funded smears "depraved" and "nationally destabilizing."
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9:27a, 1/27/22
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Nothing will happen to Clinton but hopefully her inner circle will be prosecuted along with the scumbags at Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS
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In reply to benchmark • 9:33a, 1/27/22
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Former Bill Clinton political strategist Doug Schoen said it stretches credulity to suggest that top officials in the Clinton camp, including the candidate herself, weren't fully aware of the research their campaign attorney was billing them for.

"With more than 380 payments from the Clinton campaign and the DNC being made to Perkins Coie, it is seemingly impossible that the candidate herself would not have direct knowledge of the purpose of those payments or any earmarks being made, especially those for Fusion GPS," Schoen said.
Back when the involvement of Perkins, Cooie first came to light, they did turn over some of their billing records to Mueller (I believe it was to Mueller.) And I noted at the time that Perkins, Cooie received invoices from Fusion GPS but forwarded them to the DNC and Hillary campaign for them to pay directly.

At least that was their claim at the time.
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9:34a, 1/27/22
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Oh I forgot those scumbags at FBI need to rot in jail as well
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Nothing will happen to Clinton but hopefully her inner circle will be prosecuted along with the scumbags at Perkins Coie and Fusion GPS
Ditto Jake Sullivan. His fingerprints are everywhere ... likely the alpha and omega. Scary knowing he's now Biden's national security advisor and we have a Ukraine situation.
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9:31p, 1/27/22
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In reply to MarkTwain • 9:33p, 1/27/22
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I don't know if it was pointed out recently, but Horowitz is a Obama appointee.
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Sounds like Obstruction of Justice
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11:44p, 1/27/22
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At what point does Horowitz become a target as part of the conspiracy?
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will25u said:
Need help deciphering the significance of the tweet and documents.


Explains it a little better. Thread.

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In this post I'll be detailing the evidence, testimony, and documents we know or can assume Special Counsel John Durham has obtained during his investigation.
By no means is this an exhaustive list; certainly, he has more information, documents, correspondence, etc. than we realize. There are unknown witnesses who have testified before a grand jury or have been interviewed by Durham's team. There are issues he's investigating out of the public knowledge. His investigation is remarkably tight-lipped. As far as we know, they aren't leaking to the press for publicity or to put pressure on their targets. (Compare that to the likely leak from Special Counsel Mueller's team that they had enough evidence to charge Flynn's son, which was reported just as they were trying to get Flynn to plead guilty to the false statements charge.)
Some of this information is organized by category. At other times it is organized by entity or Defendant. Sometimes both. For research purposes, I will probably come back to this and provide updates so we have a running list of what has been done.
Here is what we know so far.
Grand Jury Testimony. The following witnesses (some identified by name; others given general descriptions in Durham's filings) have testified before a grand jury. The Government's Discovery Update in the Sussmann case, filed 1/25/2022, provides some of this information at pages 6-7.
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  • Former FBI General Counsel James Baker.
  • A former FBI Assistant Director for Counter Intelligence. We are confident this is Bill Priestap, to whom Baker relayed the Alfa Bank materials after it was provided by Michael Sussmann. See Baker's 10/3/2018 House testimony at page 100.
  • Peter Strzok (likely). The 1/25/22 Sussmann filing by Durham states there has been grand jury testimony by "A former FBI Deputy Assistant Director for Counterintelligence." We conclude this is probably Peter Strzok. Baker testified that he might have contacted "Pete Strzok or Bill Priestap" after receiving the documents from Sussmann. See Baker's 10/3/2018 House testimony at page 99. Strzok wrote that he had a "minor role" in these events. We asked Strzok about this; he hasn't responded.
  • Daniel Jones (likely). Back in October 2020, Dexter Filkins with the New Yorker reported that Durham had "asked" Jones to give testimony before a grand jury. Jones is a former staffer for Diane Feinstein who, per the Daily Caller, secured $50 million in funding to investigate, with Fusion GPS and Steele Russian interference with the 2016 election.
  • Charles Dolan (likely). Dolan is the Clinton ally "source" of Steele primary subsource Igor Danchenko. We conclude he has testified before a grand jury based on statements within the Danchenko indictment (such as Dolan stating the Clinton Campaign did not direct his interactions with Danchenko and other Russian nationals).
  • An FBI Special Agent who served as case agent for the FBI's Alfa Bank investigation. Identity currently unknown.
  • An FBI Headquarters Supervisory Special Agent assigned to the Alfa Bank investigation. Identity currently unknown.
  • Two former employees of DARPA (identified as Agency-1 in the Sussmann indictment). This NYT article explains DARPA's relationship with Georgia Tech, and how Georgia Tech researchers worked with Rodney Joffe.
  • Eight current and former employees of the CIA (identified as "Agency-2" in the Sussmann indictment.) This would likely include Caroline Krass, a John Brennan ally who was the CIA General Counsel at the time.
  • Eight current and former employees of Neustar (identified as "Internet Company-1" in the Sussmann indictment).
  • Four current employees of Packet Forensics, LLC and VOSTROM Holdings Inc. (Likely "Internet Company-2" and "Internet Company-3" in the Sussmann indictment.)
  • The former chairman of Perkins Coie.
  • A former employee of the Clinton Campaign.
  • Four current and former employees of Georgia Tech.
  • An employee of Rodney Joffe.
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    3:59p, 1/29/22
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    Post deleted. Wrong thread.
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    4:07p, 1/29/22
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    Hope I live long enough to see Justice served.
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    12:23a, 1/30/22
    Thread.

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    4:36a, 1/30/22
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    So hang on, it's early and I'm a little slow, is this really Durham filing claim that the DoJ IG has been only partially cooperative and essentially hid 2 FBI cell phones he had as part of his probe?

    OMFG, what a swamp the DoJ really is. I am amazed they manage to keep making it worse and worse.
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    In reply to nortex97 • 5:15a, 1/30/22
    nortex97 said:
    So hang on, it's early and I'm a little slow, is this really Durham filing claim that the DoJ IG has been only partially cooperative and essentially hid 2 FBI cell phones he had as part of his probe?

    OMFG, what a swamp the DoJ really is. I am amazed they manage to keep making it worse and worse.
    That would be correct. Now Horowitz may have shot himself in the foot a bit, because in his response to the Durham filing about Baker's phones, Horowitz claims that he mentioned the phones in a conference call with Durham on Feb 12 2018, however according to the chain of custody that Durham obtained in his investigation, the OIG never received the phones until Feb 15th a full three days after the conference call Horowitz claims happened. Durham also mentions in his filing he has no recollection of the claimed conference call and it's not listed in his records. So Horowitz story is not stacking up, and Horowitz hasn't offered any real evidence supporting his clim of the call. like a call log or something nor any evidence to back his claim that he "mentioned" the phones on the call he can't prove ever existed. Horowitz has a reason to lie since he's caught withholding crucial evidence and not being fully forthcoming and cooperating. Durham has no real motivation to just make this up out of whole cloth.

    Not a good look for Horwitz. Also Sussman's attorneys prompted Durham that there was a meeting between Sussman and Horowitz which the OIG failed to disclose to Durham. Remember Durham publicly rebuked the IG a few years back regarding the predicate to Crossfire Hurricane. In fact Durham rebuked the OIG findings 5 minutes after the IG's release via public statement. This was and still is the only public statement by Durham before Sussmann indictment. Durham has maintained a leakproof office, and that is the reason he told Barr he wanted to handpick his team so he could run a solid investigation and not let the media intervene with false leaks and lies.
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    In reply to MarkTwain • 5:31a, 1/30/22
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    Got it, thx. Unbelievable. I have no words.
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    6:37a, 1/30/22
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    With all the discovery documents Durham keeps getting, can you imagine all the tangential criminal activity by these scumbags he is uncovering ?
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