I'd put the chances at about 99.99% for both.akm91 said:
I'm assuming the political organization is the DNC and hoping the law firm is Perkins Coie
Yes. Biden can fire Durham as Special Counsel. Just like Nixon did to Archibald Cox.Rockdoc said:
I'm assuming Biden and the dems can squash this investigation and bury it anytime they want. Is this not correct?
Yes, but imagine how the press will destroy him for shutting down a special counsel . . . Never mind, this time it's (D)ifferent.Rockdoc said:
I'm assuming Biden and the dems can squash this investigation and bury it anytime they want. Is this not correct?
Biden wouldn't have to. Garland would do it if the WaPo so much as writes an editorial suggesting he should.aggiehawg said:Yes. Biden can fire Durham as Special Counsel. Just like Nixon did to Archibald Cox.Rockdoc said:
I'm assuming Biden and the dems can squash this investigation and bury it anytime they want. Is this not correct?
Wonder why this hasnt been shut down is the real question? is there a possibility that if its shut down someone releases the kill switch on who knows what? I just cant understand how the Dems have let this play out this far?aggiehawg said:Yes. Biden can fire Durham as Special Counsel. Just like Nixon did to Archibald Cox.Rockdoc said:
I'm assuming Biden and the dems can squash this investigation and bury it anytime they want. Is this not correct?
They are just waiting for Durham to pass away from "natural causes" with two completely unrelated bullet holes in his head.fullback44 said:Wonder why this hasnt been shut down is the real question? is there a possibility that if its shut down someone releases the kill switch on who knows what? I just cant understand how the Dems have let this play out this far?aggiehawg said:Yes. Biden can fire Durham as Special Counsel. Just like Nixon did to Archibald Cox.Rockdoc said:
I'm assuming Biden and the dems can squash this investigation and bury it anytime they want. Is this not correct?
Barr pre-emptively made him Special Counsel to make it harder to fire him. As just a US Attorney, Biden would have fired Durham immediately upon taking office.fullback44 said:Wonder why this hasnt been shut down is the real question? is there a possibility that if its shut down someone releases the kill switch on who knows what? I just cant understand how the Dems have let this play out this far?aggiehawg said:Yes. Biden can fire Durham as Special Counsel. Just like Nixon did to Archibald Cox.Rockdoc said:
I'm assuming Biden and the dems can squash this investigation and bury it anytime they want. Is this not correct?
John Durham is setting the world record for discovery on a false statement charge.
— Ryan M (@RyanM58699717) January 25, 2022
Feels like Durham broke through privilege and has a ton on Joffe and others.
— Ryan M (@RyanM58699717) January 25, 2022
I agree but my point was more that Garland wouldn't want to take the heat alone. He'd want Biden's order or permission.nortex97 said:
…at that time, as a nominee. Didn't say he would never fire him if the costs/time of his work took too long etc.
He now has the unquestioned authority to fire him, any given minute. He has only said there would be no 'political or undue influence' as to how/if Durham is allowed to proceed, more recently, while also defending a notably leftist DoJ Atty's comments about it.
That is DC speak for 'oh, I haven't fired him, as of this moment.'
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Now, to the evidence. Durham and his team have secured grand jury testimony from the following individuals:
[ol]Former Perkins Coie partner, and DNC/Hillary Clinton lawyer Marc Elias. Former FBI General Counsel James Baker Current CIA employees [/ol]Durham and his team have completed interviews of the following individuals:
[ol]Former FBI General Counsel James Baker More than 24 other current and former FBI employees. Current and former employees of the CIA and DARPA. 12 Employees of the "internet companies" referenced in the Sussmann indictment. The former chairman of DNC/Clinton law firm Perkins Coie. A former employee of the Clinton campaign. Current and former employees of Georgia Tech (involved in the Alfa Hoax). An employee of "Tech Executive-1" aka Rodney Joffe, a Sussmann client who assisted with the Alfa Bank hoax. [/ol]Still, there is more. Durham has obtained records/documents from the following entities:
[ol]The Hillary Clinton Campaign Perkins Coie Hillary for America Fusion GPS A PR Firm that advised Perkins Coie regarding public statements about Sussmann's meeting with James Baker. Phone logs for numerous current and former FBI employees. "a classified memorandum and related reports of interviews pertaining to a criminal investigation previously conducted by the U.S. Department of Justice regarding a potential leak of classified information" He also has secured nearly 400 e-mails between the FBI and Perkins Coie from January 2016 through June 2017. [/ol]
"All this leads us to believe that Durham is focused on something more substantial than the false Alfa Bank allegations - perhaps the inception of it all: the claim of Russian hacking." Great article from @Techno_Fog https://t.co/MygxMp5cSf
— Shem Horne (@Shem_Infinite) January 25, 2022
It's not a dream as much as documenting history now.nortex97 said:
I love all of you who keep the dream alive. I wish I could join you, sincerely.
Wish I was religious, then we know who knows.aggiehawg said:
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Who the hell knows?
The cloud will just have a tech version of diaspora and get scattered?richardag said:
Hopefully all this documentation is very securely held and copies in multiple secure locations.
There is the unsavory chance Durham is just cataloging the exoneration evidence.
This bs has gone on too long without anyone being held accountable.
Are you referring to:aggiehawg said:The cloud will just have a tech version of diaspora and get scattered?richardag said:
Hopefully all this documentation is very securely held and copies in multiple secure locations.
There is the unsavory chance Durham is just cataloging the exoneration evidence.
This bs has gone on too long without anyone being held accountable.
I wasn't sure of the definition of diaspora so I did an internet search and found that site. Thought is was funny, hope you enjoyed the humor.aggiehawg said:
Oh heavens! I thought I was being clever with a metaphor.
From Jewish to techish.richardag said:I wasn't sure of the definition of diaspora so I did an internet search and found that site. Thought is was funny, hope you enjoyed the humor.aggiehawg said:
Oh heavens! I thought I was being clever with a metaphor.
2/2 OIG "represented" to Special Counsel's office "no other file or documentation." But then Sussmann's attorneys tell Durham's team, oh, I actually MET w/ OIG...so Durham's team goees back to OIG & amazingly there is more documentation. WTF! Working on this and other tidbits! pic.twitter.com/LBrj7NEwfE
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) January 26, 2022
Post-Twit 2: Anytime you read a legal filing and you think "hmm, not sure what that's about, so I'll just skim it," STOP. RE-READ until you figure it out!
— Margot Cleveland (@ProfMJCleveland) January 26, 2022
@CBS_Herridge makes a great point here. There’s a list with broad, generic titles, of who’s been interviewed by Durham snd who’s appeared before the grand jury. For example, we’ve now learned that Sussmann’s former law partner, Marc Elias, has appeared before the grand jury.
— Kingmaker - Big IF! (True) (@KingMakerFT) January 25, 2022
Here are some who do not appear to have been interviewed by Durham’s team: Comey, McCabe, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, most of the Clinton campaign top executives, including JakeSullivan, Christopher Steele, and Hillary Clinton.
— Kingmaker - Big IF! (True) (@KingMakerFT) January 25, 2022
Latest Durham Filing Indicates DOJ Office of Inspector General is Part of DC Coverup Operationhttps://t.co/bUK8Mv8Jyf
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) January 26, 2022
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Kingmaker: Herridge makes the point here that it may be instructive to ascertain who is not on that list, as that may indicate those persons are targets or subjects of the investigation:
Still holding onto the slightest sliver of hope that Durham's ultimate legal objective is multiple indictments for "Conspiracy to Defraud the Gov."Quote:
Kingmaker: Here are some who do not appear to have been interviewed by Durham's team: Comey, McCabe, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, most of the Clinton campaign top executives, including JakeSullivan, Christopher Steele, and Hillary Clinton.
You and everyone reading this thread.benchmark said:Quote:
Kingmaker: Herridge makes the point here that it may be instructive to ascertain who is not on that list, as that may indicate those persons are targets or subjects of the investigation:Still holding onto the slightest sliver of hope that Durham's ultimate legal objective is multiple indictments for "Conspiracy to Defraud the Gov."Quote:
Kingmaker: Here are some who do not appear to have been interviewed by Durham's team: Comey, McCabe, Bruce Ohr, Nellie Ohr, most of the Clinton campaign top executives, including JakeSullivan, Christopher Steele, and Hillary Clinton.