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corruption in office, abuse of process, obstruction of exculpatory evidence, crimes committed in public office, basically any kind of abuse of government power against citizens or espionage against the US should be capital crimes with the entire estate of the perpetrator forfeited to the victims as well.

it is the absolute worst possible crime that could ever be committed, in a class by itself, and frankly borderline exception to the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment.

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...regardless of party or affiliation!!! Hang em high.

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richardag said:

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Does the acceptance of the guilty plea affect any civil litigation Carter Page may bring?

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Well, yes and no. Judicial notice can be taken of the guilty plea and the jury instruction given about it.

I expect there's a settlement well before trial, however.

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Thanks for the reply.

As long as the settlement is eight figures and above for Page and his attorney, then I'll be okay.

But I prefer 9 figures for Page, and a minimum of 9 figures for Flynn.

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nortex97 said:

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https://theamericanreport.org/2019/05/22/montgomery-the-hammer-surveillance-system-whistleblower-became-the-deep-states-enemy-number-one-after-exposing-the-truth/

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They spied on Roberts and Scalia!

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I wouldn't be surprised in a certain judge named Sullivan was also surveilled.

Swamp rats need to be trapped and convicted, don't care about political affiliations.

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At this point it means nothing until it happens to a Democrat.

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drcrinum said:

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At this point it means nothing until it happens to a Democrat.

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I've "wondered" if a Repub. was first for political reasons, i.e., before the Dem's encounter 'hell fire'.

I heard John Solomon on Hannity this afternoon and I didn't get a warm fuzzy feeling about further action. I think he said "maybe" one or two more indictments before election. Hope he just doesn't know for sure.

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I heard John Solomon on Hannity this afternoon and I didn't get a warm fuzzy feeling about further action. I think he said "maybe" one or two more indictments before election. Hope he just doesn't know for sure.

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clinton email 2.0

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I've "wondered" if a Repub. was first for political reasons, i.e., before the Dem's encounter 'hell fire'.

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Thought the same. Remember from my (too many) years in Austin how Ronnie <spit> Earle used to justify his indictments of political people as being against both Republican and Democrat. That was true but misleading in that he had been in office for so long that included when Dems had full control of Texas.

The Dems Earle targeted were his political enemies back then. Jim Mattox comes to mind.

That having been said, when the feds (especially Postal Inspectors) have texts and emails that are so incriminatory, that's not good for Bannon and company. And being on a yacht belonging to a Chinese billionaire? Almost certainly under surveillance? Idiotic by Bannon.

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I heard John Solomon on Hannity this afternoon and I didn't get a warm fuzzy feeling about further action. I think he said "maybe" one or two more indictments before election. Hope he just doesn't know for sure.

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The story about one month ago was that Durham may not be finished until after the election, and as of this week, I believe that.

If Durham is just now "interviewing" Brennan, then perhaps the investigation is close to being finished, but all of the big decisions on how to indict, who to include, and what kind of statutes their going to use would take a minimum of 1 to 2 months.

As y'all know, I'm a legal neophyte, but I'm assuming the types of indictments may have been discussed, but not much until you've completed ALL of the interviews/depositions. So if Brennan was the last, since I'm sure they're not deposing Warner/Feinstein/Burr, then Durham is just now beginning the indictment process.

Oh, I wonder if Wolfe was deposed. That would be REALLY neat to know.

And Hawg, I just saw a commercial for an eye product called PreserVision for folks with MacD. fyi

Said it before, I'll say it again; FBI delende est.

It has been corrupt from it's outset, and only revisionist history/Hollywood have portrayed it otherwise. Today, it is simply a threat to the republic, as their former agents/workers have reveled in their corruption in 'Russia gate.'

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At this point it means nothing until it happens to a Democrat.

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I've "wondered" if a Repub. was first for political reasons, i.e., before the Dem's encounter 'hell fire'.

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That's what some people imply, however, until it happens questions remain valid.

https://amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/21/john-brennan-interviewed-john-durham-probe

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Former CIA Director John Brennan was interviewed Friday by U.S. Attorney John Durham's team as part of its inquiry into the investigators and intelligence officials behind the 2016 Russia election interference probe.

The interview took place at CIA headquarters and lasted for eight hours, said Nick Shapiro, Brennan's former deputy chief of staff and senior adviser.

"Brennan was informed by Mr. Durham that he is not a subject or a target of a criminal investigation and that he is only a witness to events that are under review," Shapiro said in a statement.

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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1296977643296915456.html

Is it me, or is this spygate stuff falling apart?

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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1296977643296915456.html

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Well after doing a little bit if reading that was out out by his spokesperson. But still is not encouraging.

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Is it me, or is this spygate stuff falling apart?

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I've been saying nothing comes of this, especially if Biden wins.

Again, we bemoan government overreach and yet rely on it to save us.

Really depressing to think there is no justice, but it sure is looking like that may be the case no matter who wins in November.

This will be the most memorable Labor Day in our Countries history. Get that popcorn!

Yeah you don't sit for a full day 8 hour deposition if you aren't a major player and I'm this case, a target.

He's the one I most wanted to see in an orange jump suit.

FIxed it your you....

"Brennan was informed by Mr. Durham that he is not a subject or a target of a criminal investigation(yet) and that he is only a witness to events that are under review," Shapiro said in a statement.

Surprised Trump hasn't tweeted "They told me I wasn't under investigation too" but I guess the left would take it as "If Brennan is guilty then Trump is guilty".

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Believe it when I see it. We had a SecState/Pres candidate who put national security at risk (and I'm certain she was hacked) to protect herself from disclosure to the American people, gave away national assets, and lined her pockets (and those of her hubby and daughter). NSA Rice lied openly (and also communicated via the personal e-mail address). These people are criminals and traitors. They weren't held to account when we KNEW the facts. Ultimately Gov't protects its own - and once again, we've been had. Rules are for the ruled, not the rulers.

Clinton wasn't hacked, she sold access (every email was purposefully forwarded).

The DNC wasn't hacked, Seth Rich took the documents on a USB stick. The hack claim was cover/blame shifting.

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Yeah you don't sit for a full day 8 hour deposition if you aren't a major player and I'm this case, a target.

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I understand all depositions are different for good reason, but is an 8 hour deposition a long time? I'd be a disaster after about two hours, knowing that every single thing coming out of the attorney is designed to make me say something to help their client.

Candidly, I wish Durham made the deposition 8 weeks. Brennan is an arrogant sob, and a really bad person. I guess a deposition is one area where arrogance is a good thing.

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blindey said:

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Yeah you don't sit for a full day 8 hour deposition if you aren't a major player and I'm this case, a target.

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I understand all depositions are different for good reason, but is an 8 hour deposition a long time? I'd be a disaster after about two hours, knowing that every single thing coming out of the attorney is designed to make me say something to help their client.

Candidly, I wish Durham made the deposition 8 weeks. Brennan is an arrogant sob, and a really bad person. I guess a deposition is one area where arrogance is a good thing.

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Not really. A full day is not out of the ordinary. Multiple days, even weeks can occur depending on how complex the subject matter of the case is.