Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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If you have 80 minutes, this is worth watching -- worth it's own thread -- just released about 4 hours ago & will likely soon be scrubbed. The Shadow Government.

Remember the private contractors & the unauthorized 702 queries? Peanuts. These 2 'whistleblowers' claim there are patches to the NSA data collection base where real-time data is continuously being downloaded to servers outside the US. There it is analyzed by private security-intelligence companies who compile data at the personal-individual level & have at their disposal, military-grade PSYOP algorithms, the latter which then can be used for a wide variety of nefarious operations such as blackmailing public figures & politicians, influencing elections & controlling public sentiment via social media & the MSM, etc. It's too much information to even summarize, but for our purposes, this is where Steele Dossier material originated. It's also how the Trump impeachment attempt over Ukraine was orchestrated. It explains the Cambridge Analytica involvement.


This is perhaps the most terrifying and alarming thing I have watched in a long time. This deserves its own thread.


Must. Watch.
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Sidney is my kind of gal. LOL. Weissmann was so far off base with his tweets today, it was comical, and indicting for himself.
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Sidney is my kind of gal. LOL. Weissmann was so far off base with his tweets today, it was comical, and indicting for himself.
Sidney is the type of person that "tells you how the cow ate the cabbage", as my grandfather would say.
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Remember the document released about the misleading FBI briefing about Steele's Primary Sub-source given to the Senate Intel Committee (SSCI) from about 10 pages ago on our thread? There was overwhelming circumstantial evidence that McCabe gave the briefing with Scott Schools as both were at the briefing. People (including myself) laughed on Twitter at Lindsay Graham who appeared on Hannity's show & said that he was going to write a letter to Wray demanding that Wray identify the FBI person who conducted the briefing. Well, color me orange-faced. It was Priestap. That clearly marks him as a black hat. Lying to protect the Mueller Investigation, with McCabe & Schools at his side.
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Haven't been keeping up as much lately, but was this known? Housley says Brennan was interviewed today.

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aggiehawg said:

Durham over target. The right pigs are squealing, and squealing loud! Weissmann is having a twitter meltdown.








What a whiny POS
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Someone said it best when Comey was writing his book and blabbering to the press...They do have the right to remain silent.
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Crossfire Hurricane was a criminal investigation? Need to see these new docs she is referencing.
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Clinesmith lied about the contents of an email to the FBI agent (false statement in an ongoing investigation) actually materially altered that email (tampering with evidence and government records) forwarded that altered email to that FBI agent (obstruction of justice) with full knowledge that email would be used in part in a fraudulent FISA court filing to obtain renewal of a Title I FISA in violation of Carter Page's constitutional rights. Much later he was was not forthcoming during Horowitz's investigation (more potential false statements.)

He committed these crimes while on Team Mueller in June 2017. A little over a month into the Special Counsel's takeover of the Russia investigation. Who was squealing like a stuck pig yesterday? Weissmann. Durham went right to the heart of the matter, while also being lenient with a now fully cooperating witness. The charge pierces the wall and puts the misconduct inside Team Mueller.

One last point: there was a kind of strange footnote in the Mueller Report that stated that members of Team Mueller who were assigned (or recruited) from the FBI/DOJ remained solely subject to the authority of FBI/DOJ while on Team Mueller. I thought at the time that was a convenient CYA statement but now we have a better picture of what that footnote truly meant. They knew misconduct of all sorts had occurred.

Obligatory: Aaannnd Mueller and Weissmann are still both a POS.
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She they were using the FARA Act to obtain surveillance.
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Four names spring to mind besides the usual love bird suspects, James Baker, counsel to Comey, Trisha Anderson, Jim Moffa and McCabe.

ETA: That is a blatant misuse of FARA, too.
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Four names spring to mind besides the usual love bird suspects, James Baker, counsel to Comey, Trisha Anderson, Jim Moffa and McCabe.

ETA: That is a blatant misuse of FARA, too.
We knew Mueller used that scheme, but this suggests a long history of FARA abuse predating Crossfire Hurricane. Remember, Strzok wrote up the EC for Crossfire Hurricane by himself over a weekend.
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drcrinum said:

aggiehawg said:

Four names spring to mind besides the usual love bird suspects, James Baker, counsel to Comey, Trisha Anderson, Jim Moffa and McCabe.

ETA: That is a blatant misuse of FARA, too.
We knew Mueller used that scheme, but this suggests a long history of FARA abuse predating Crossfire Hurricane. Remember, Strzok wrote up the EC for Crossfire Hurricane by himself over a weekend.
The whole idea behind FARA is disclosure. They have to disclose lobbying efforts on behalf of foreign governments. Yes there are both civil and criminal penalties but a FARA investigation becomes a criminal one not a counter-intel investigation. Procedurally, Crossfire Hurricane was messed up from the get-go.
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aggiehawg said:

Clinesmith lied about the contents of an email to the FBI agent (false statement in an ongoing investigation) actually materially altered that email (tampering with evidence and government records) forwarded that altered email to that FBI agent (obstruction of justice) with full knowledge that email would be used in part in a fraudulent FISA court filing to obtain renewal of a Title I FISA in violation of Carter Page's constitutional rights. Much later he was was not forthcoming during Horowitz's investigation (more potential false statements.)

He committed these crimes while on Team Mueller in June 2017. A little over a month into the Special Counsel's takeover of the Russia investigation. Who was squealing like a stuck pig yesterday? Weissmann. Durham went right to the heart of the matter, while also being lenient with a now fully cooperating witness. The charge pierces the wall and puts the misconduct inside Team Mueller.

One last point: there was a kind of strange footnote in the Mueller Report that stated that members of Team Mueller who were assigned (or recruited) from the FBI/DOJ remained solely subject to the authority of FBI/DOJ while on Team Mueller. I thought at the time that was a convenient CYA statement but now we have a better picture of what that footnote truly meant. They knew misconduct of all sorts had occurred.

Obligatory: Aaannnd Mueller and Weissmann are still both a POS.
Why, Hawg, I am shocked! Shocked, I tell you! You have never before expressed such an acidic point of view.

How on earth could you arrive at such a conclusion?
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Sidney is not impressed.



I do want to point out one thing though. Those extrajudicial statements by his attorneys will likely be probed by the judge at the colloquy. If they and Clinesmith actually stick to that position, she is correct, Judge likely won't accept the plea.

But the chances that his attorneys were in a form of damage control (in case someone has an itchy trigger finger) can't be entirely dismissed either.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/former-fbi-assistant-director-bill-priestap-next-brought-justice-review-many-corrupt-criminal-acts/

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Last night Senator Lindsey Graham was on the Hannity show with former Representative Trey Gowdy. In their discussion, Graham targeted former FBI official Bill Priestap. Graham shared:


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This is a big day for transparency and the rule of law. So Mr. [DOJ IG Michael] Horowitz it's not in his report, Trey, but he found a briefing document dated sometime in February 2018 that was prepared by the FBI because the Senate Intel Committee, you used to be on the House Intel Committee, had real concerns about the Russian subsource. So they asked the FBI to come in and brief them. So I asked Director Wray, 'Who did the briefing?'

Well, it's Bill Priestap, who's this guy? He's one of the leaders of Crossfire Hurricane. A year after the subsource told the FBI in 2017 there is zero corroboration for the dossier, I wouldn't trust it with a solid grain of salt, hearsay, bar talk. They knew for over a year, and now, you've got Bill Priestap on Feb. 15, 2018, with four other people from the FBI briefing this Senate Intel Committee, completely whitewashing the truth about the reliability of the dossier. Now, Director Wray has been really good, he's given me the information, more is going to follow, but what I'm going to do with this is turn it over to Durham because I think the briefing in 2018, a year after the subsource told the FBI the dossier was a bunch of garbage, whitewashing that report to the Senate Intel Committee is potentially another crime. So, I'm going to send all of this to Durham when I get it."

So, there were 4 people at the FBI briefing on Steele's Primary Sub-source before the SSCI in February 2018: Priestap, McCabe, Schools + 1 unidentified. Sounds like they wanted to be real careful about what was said. Schools was not FBI; he was a career lawyer in the DOJ, an Associate Deputy Attorney General & advisor of Rosenstein (Hint!). Who was the fourth person? My guess -- an FBI lawyer...couldn't have been James Baker, he was gone; couldn't have been Lisa Page, her text messages were public...probably someone from the FBI General Counsel's Office.

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Who was the fourth person? My guess -- an FBI lawyer...couldn't have been James Baker, he was gone; couldn't have been Lisa Page, her text messages were public...probably someone from the FBI General Counsel's Office.
Clinesmith?
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United States Attorney John Durham has interviewed the former top FBI lawyer during the Russia investigation.

James Baker, who recently was hired by Twitter, met with Durham's team in recent weeks and was quickly brought back for follow-up questions, a source told CNN.

The report noted that witnesses who have spoken with Durham are unable to figure out who is a major target for prosecution in his criminal inquiry into Russia investigation.

Baker, who became general counsel in 2014 and resigned from the FBI in 2018, defended the Russia investigation and the FBI's handling of British ex-spy Christopher Steele's anti-Trump dossier. He was involved in the sign-off process of at least the first Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant application that targeted former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.
The plot thickens.

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I thought about him, but I didn't know where he stood on the pecking order. I just checked:

https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/kevin-clinesmith/

Assuming Clinesmith is FBI Attorney 2 in Horowitz's Report:

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FBI Attorney 2 was also assigned to the investigation into Russian election interference and "was the primary FBI attorney assigned to that investigation beginning in early 2017," the report says.

So you may well be correct.
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drcrinum said:

I thought about him, but I didn't know where he stood on the pecking order. I just checked:

https://heavy.com/news/2020/08/kevin-clinesmith/

Assuming Clinesmith is FBI Attorney 2 in Horowitz's Report:

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FBI Attorney 2 was also assigned to the investigation into Russian election interference and "was the primary FBI attorney assigned to that investigation beginning in early 2017," the report says.

So you may well be correct.

Reading between the lines of what Lindsay said about referring Priestap to Durham for that briefing, coupled with the Clinesmith guilty plea, I think Lindsay has already been advised that Priestap is in the crosshairs and is just making an appearance of flexing his muscles about getting to the bottom of it all.

He can be so fake in that way.
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Just a reminder about CrowdStrike in light of Clinesmith's guilty plea:

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Moreover, we learned something in May that might have struck another blow to the public's confidence in Shawn Henry's mentor. Thanks to acting Director of National Security, Richard Grenell, Adam Schiff was forced to release testimony Henry gave to the House Intelligence Committee in 2017.

CrowdStrike's president admitted that the claim we've been assured of for four years now that his firm had discovered proof that the Russians had stolen files from the DNC was not to put too fine a point on it a baldfaced lie.

There wasn't even any evidence, let alone proof.

Henry testified that CrowdStrike only found evidence that files were "staged for exfiltration" but explicitly admitted that "there's not evidence that they were actually exfiltrated" at least five separate times.

In fact, there seems to be very good evidence they weren't.

Henry says that CrowdStrike first detected Russian malware on the DNC system in early May 2016 and waited till June 10 to remove it. We know from CrowdStrike's founder Dmitri Alperovitch that CrowdStrike was monitoring the Russian's presence using their premiere software Falcon that entire time.

In any event, it's bizarre enough that Henry and Alperovitch allowed the Russians to remain on the DNC network for such a long period of time given that, when asked, Henry testified that the system had been vulnerable to their malware the entire 6 weeks.

So CrowdStrike must have at least been monitoring what the Russians were doing from the beginning of May when they first detected their malware through June 10, when they finally removed it. Otherwise, it's not even clear what the DNC was even paying them for.

Mueller's report, however, says the DNC emails WikiLeaks published were stolen by the Russians between May 25 and June 1. And, independent analysis has confirmed that's within a couple of days of when the files were first copied by whoever the culprit was however he acquired them. Indeed, more than half of the emails were dated after CrowdStrike installed Falcon and, hence, couldn't have been taken before they were on the job.

So how could the Russians have stolen over 44,000 emails with almost 18,000 attached files while CrowdStrike was monitoring their presence on the DNC system?

How could anyone have stolen that much data over the internet from some remote location without Falcon having any record of the files exiting the DNC's system?
LINK

Just something else to keep in mind that Clinesmith was likely privy to.
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Amazing how many commercials I have seen for them lately on sports programs.
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aggiehawg said:

Just a reminder about CrowdStrike in light of Clinesmith's guilty plea:

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So how could the Russians have stolen over 44,000 emails with almost 18,000 attached files while CrowdStrike was monitoring their presence on the DNC system?

How could anyone have stolen that much data over the internet from some remote location without Falcon having any record of the files exiting the DNC's system?

LINK

Just something else to keep in mind that Clinesmith was likely privy to.
I think the DNC (FBI & others) know the Russians didn't steal them...they just needed a plausible scapegoat that the illiterate electorate wouldn't dispute.
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Currently a happy listless vessel and deplorable. #FDEMS TRUMP 2024.
Fight Fight Fight.
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Hawg, I've been away from a laptop since yesterday at noon. Had to buy a new one, but I'm just now getting caught up. It was kind of a silicon Frigidaire moment ( at least I think that's the kind of refrigerator you bought).

However, between your deposition with the Bush lawyer, who was involved in the 2000 recount in Florida, and your "Sidney is my kind of gal" comment, I strongly suspect you and your hubs would be "provocative" at happy hour.

Completely understanding your desire for privacy, I know that won't happen, but it would be damned fun.

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Regarding the "Things they don't want you to see" video, the supposed "HAMMER" project designed by NSA and CIA came to mind while I was listening to the video.

I had the same reservations about The Hammer as you, but I've seen it in writing a couple of times since July 1st.

Just a thought.
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fasthorse05 said:

Hawg, I've been away from a laptop since yesterday at noon. Had to buy a new one, but I'm just now getting caught up. It was kind of a silicon Frigidaire moment ( at least I think that's the kind of refrigerator you bought).

However, between your deposition with the Bush lawyer, who was involved in the 2000 recount in Florida, and your "Sidney is my kind of gal" comment, I strongly suspect you and your hubs would be "provocative" at happy hour.

Completely understanding your desire for privacy, I know that won't happen, but it would be damned fun.


Assuming either one of us could get a word in edgewise when The Hubs has a few drinks and gets on his soap box.
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A pretty interesting take on the Clinesmith actions, how his inclusion of both the unedited and edited CIA emails about Page was an invitation to participate in the coup.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/08/14/clinesmith-criminal-plea-hints-more-hoax-conspirators-will-be-charged/
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In an irony almost lost to history, the play-acting coup against the image of Trump had an analogue in reality. At that same moment in June 2017, Kevin Clinesmith forwarded two emails to his fellow conspirators who lied to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court in order to spy on Trump campaign figure Carter Page.
One email reflected that Carter Page worked as a source for the CIA to gather information on the Russians. That email exposed the entire Carter Page FISA spying as completely unnecessary and therefore totally illegal.
Page had previously used the Washington Post to offer an interview with FBI agents about his contacts with Russia. Page addressed a letter directly to FBI Director James Comey shortly before the FBI certified that intrusive spying was the only way to explore those contacts. The forwarded email documented that Page had a long history of providing reliable information to the CIA on the very subject about which the FBI sought to invade his privacy.
To hide this fact, Clinesmith created a second email by doctoring the first to read "not a source." Clinesmith's lawyer, Justin Shur, contends his client "did not try to hide the C.I.A. email from other law enforcement officials as they sought the final renewal of the Page wiretap. Mr. Clinesmith had provided the unchanged C.I.A. email to Crossfire Hurricane agents and the Justice Department lawyer drafting the original wiretap application."
Thus, if you believe Clinesmith's attorney, each conspirator was forced, figuratively, to bathe his hands in blood. By sending both the doctored and undoctored version of the same email, Clinesmith made sure each of them knew that the conspiracy would involve filing a fraudulent document with the FISA court. This may explain why, more than three years later, the conspirators never turned on each other. Like a 2017 version of Brutus, Clinesmith made sure that if he went down, he would be able to take down the other conspirators as well.
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To hide this fact, Clinesmith created a second email by doctoring the first to read "not a source." Clinesmith's lawyer, Justin Shur, contends his client "did not try to hide the C.I.A. email from other law enforcement officials as they sought the final renewal of the Page wiretap. Mr. Clinesmith had provided the unchanged C.I.A. email to Crossfire Hurricane agents and the Justice Department lawyer drafting the original wiretap application."

Thus, if you believe Clinesmith's attorney, each conspirator was forced, figuratively, to bathe his hands in blood. By sending both the doctored and undoctored version of the same email, Clinesmith made sure each of them knew that the conspiracy would involve filing a fraudulent document with the FISA court. This may explain why, more than three years later, the conspirators never turned on each other. Like a 2017 version of Brutus, Clinesmith made sure that if he went down, he would be able to take down the other conspirators as well.
What a load of hooey! Yeah I materially altered a government record that was evidence but I also didn't hide the unaltered evidence. Not my fault they believed the fraudulent evidence.

I'm sorry, but the law doesn't work that way. ETA: And certainly not for an attorney.
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I'm sorry, but the law doesn't work that way. ETA: And certainly not for an attorney.

Especially when it comes to the duty of candor to the Court. The Obama administration was so boldly corrupt - it boggles the mind.
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Speaking of mind boggling, Powell was on Dobbs a couple of days ago, and informed everyone that in the history of the Republic, a case was dismissed 100% of the time when the government withdrew the indictment, which I'm sure y'all know. She included "before the trial, during, and after conviction".

Since the cluster***k that was the En Banc hearing, I sure hope that Wall's comments about "non-public" reasons that Barr has involves something that one of our surrogate AUSA's has been looking at regarding the DC appellate court. I'm sure that would be a staggering breach of protocol to "review" the DC Circuit judges, but I'd be willing to bet one, if not all 7, of the Obama judges had been contacted, in some form,by a bad guy in the last three months.
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Clinesmith's Sleazy Lawyer will defend him down to his last dollar !
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