I sure hope Brennan's mug is at the top of that list, followed shortly by Comey and Clapper.

Sorry, but I didn't proofread my transcription thoroughly before posting it. I replayed the video numerous times, but I missed a few words. It should be correct now. The word "today" gives a somewhat different inflection on Obama's and Biden's potential criminality.

Removed: "I was just following orders" defense.

Can we cue the us happening soon gif?

Do we even have one of those?

This is more positive news forward on getting the conspirators in coup attempt than we have had since the impeachment sham was defeated.

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Sorry, but I didn't proofread my transcription thoroughly before posting it. I replayed the video numerous times, but I missed a few words. It should be correct now.

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Thank you for the transcription. I'm at work again and can't watch videos at my desk unfortunately.

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Sorry, but I didn't proofread my transcription thoroughly before posting it. I replayed the video numerous times, but I missed a few words. It should be correct now. The word "today" gives a somewhat different inflection on Obama's and Biden's potential criminality.

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Duly noted.

Always makes me chuckle, one of the worst tweets of all time. Brennan will be chewing on cyanide before he rats on BHO/HRC.

BTW, another poignant reminder that instead of using their police state powers, HRC should have been focused on real swing states she needed like Penn/Mich/FL. Not that her presence would have led to more dim voters...

Also, another thing to keep in mind is that Brennan and especially Clapper were selected for their positions because they are abject morons. Literally practically unable to tie their own shoe laces. Yes, of course both should be in prison, but the real goal is Valerie Jarrett.

FFS!

If the DoJ files for it. Defendant won't do it until Sullivan actually makes a ruling.

Just saw that Gleeson wants to make oral arguments

"RETIRED JUDGE JOHN GLEESON IS REQUESTING ORAL ARGUMENT ON DOJ'S MOTION TO DISMISS FLYNN CASE"

FoxNews legal analyst thinks it's just so Gleeson can make political statements to enter into the official record before the case is dropped.

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Gleeson: "I need to talk to Flynn"
Sydney: "No. Are we done here?"
DC Appeals: "yes you are" /mandamus

Do I have that right?

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Actually, if Gleeson tries to hold evidentiary hearings for his own S&Gs the proper writ would be for a writ of prohibition to stop that.

But before he gets there, file the writ of mandamus to force Sullivan to rule on the motion to dismiss and enter an order doing so would be the goal of a writ of mandamus.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-replacing-us-attorney-who-oversaw-controversial-moves-in-stone-flynn-prosecutions-report-2020-05-18

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Trump replacing U.S. attorney who oversaw controversial moves in Stone, Flynn prosecutions: report

The Trump administration is replacing the U.S. attorney in Washington who oversaw the controversial moves in the late stages of the prosecutions against Roger Stone and Michael Flynn, CNN reported Monday. The report said President Donald Trump plans to nominate Justin Herdman, the U.S. attorney in Cleveland, to take over the role currently held by Tim Shea. Shea was tapped by Attorney General William Barr to lead the U.S. attorney's office on an interim basis earlier this year. CNN said a rocky tenure after his handling of politically sensitive cases has dimmed the likelihood he would fill the job permanently.

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Hmmm... He didn't last long -- remember, he replaced Jessie Liu? US Attorney for the District of Columbia. And right in the middle of the Flynn snafu.

What would a criminal trial for Brennan and others look like?

How much about NSAs capabilities would have to be revealed to the public through discovery and the presentation of evidence? Is there a potential national security reason to NOT file criminal charges simply for the purpose of keeping things like this from being known by our enemies?

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What would a criminal trial for Brennan and others look like?

How much about NSAs capabilities would have to be revealed to the public through discovery and the presentation of evidence? Is there a potential national security reason to NOT file criminal charges simply for the purpose of keeping things like this from being known by our enemies?

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He threatens to gray mail, then we won't see very much about it as it will be likely tried under the Classified Information Procedures Act.

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There's the p-word again. It was never mentioned in Flynn's plea agreement.

So if a defendant pleads not guilty, and is convicted, does that subject him to a separate perjury charge afterwards? That is crazy!

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There's the p-word again. It was never mentioned in Flynn's plea agreement.

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And criminal contempt cannot be used to charge perjury under existing precedent.

As I said Gleeson's filing today is nucking futs and way out of bounds.

I have to wonder what kind of behind the scenes communications have been going on regarding the case and the court and others.

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I have to wonder what kind of behind the scenes communications have been going on regarding the case and the court and others.

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Sydney said last week she had some motions she was finishing up before filing. Maybe she has received more info from Jensen? Maybe she has talked with Shea about a joint motion?

I'd expect something to drop today or tomorrow.

These crazy shenanigans by Sullivan & Gleeson are the direct opposite of what Bill Barr just said in his press conference : " The only way to stop this vicious cycle, the only way to break away from a duel system of justice, is to make sure that we scrupulously apply a single and proper standard of justice for everyone " . Unfortunately, " what we have here is a failure to communicate "

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I am beginning to think that this might be a solution to the shenanigans in D.C.

Barr and DOJ need to go ahead and step up and act in this Flynn case. Is the opposition gonna hate him any more than they already do?

This is nuts. Where's the mandamus filing already?

These guys have no interest in fairness. This month delay is just so Gleeson, Schiff, and the Fusion GPS asshats can concoct a new narrative for their #Resistance porn.

This is nuts. Where's the mandamus filing already?

These guys have no interest in fairness. This month delay is just so Gleeson, Schiff, and the Fusion GPS asshats can concoct a new narrative for their #Resistance porn.

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So if Flynn committed perjury by pleading guilty to something he didn't do, do criminal defendants that plead innocent commit perjury as well when they are guilty? ridiculous I know but so is the Flynn perjury scenario.

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Sounds confusing, doesn't it? But I think the the perjury issue would come during the allocution.

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After pleading guilty, a defendant is typically offered a formal opportunity to address the court to express remorse, and explain personal circumstances that might be considered in sentencing. This is known as an allocution statement. ... From the court's perspective, judges cannot simply accept a defendant's guilty plea.

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I haven't gone back read the transcript but I'm not altogether convinced Judge Sullivan actually got to that part substantively, insofar as he blew up his own hearing with the treason accusation and had to go into recess.

(Further, Sullivan twice expressed doubts over the materiality of the statement as the basis of the false statement case and materiality is an element of the offense. Under Rule 11, the judge must find every element of the offense is supported before he can accept the plea. He failed to do so, so his acceptance of the guilty plea may have been reversible error.)

But the implication is that it is something else Flynn could have said other than the actual words, "I plead guilty" to support a possible perjury charge. Now whether Judge Gleeson legally can make that charge, or even Judge Sullivan can make that charge, is highly suspect as Article III judges do not have prosecutorial authority.

Perjury is not the same as criminal contempt of court. Not can it be made into a criminal contempt of court under the rules. When lawyers get sanctioned for lying to a federal court it is because they are officers of the court that warrants the punishment, not a separate charge of perjury because they are not under oath but are under the duties to not mislead the court as officers, thereto.

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here you go (for chemist)

Now that Judge Sullivan has coerced Covington & Burling to reenter the case, it would be remiss of Gleeson not to similarly look at them for subornation of perjury as a criminal contempt of court as well.

Again baseless in the law but as long as he's just making stuff up as he goes along, might as well be consistent, right?

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What would a criminal trial for Brennan and others look like?

How much about NSAs capabilities would have to be revealed to the public through discovery and the presentation of evidence? Is there a potential national security reason to NOT file criminal charges simply for the purpose of keeping things like this from being known by our enemies?

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I suspect that any indictments/charges will be for misuse of info/collected data. And any issues of the methods and people have already been thrown out there by Grenell's unmasking reports and FBI stuff declassed and released.

If we haven't pitched a fit so far, what "methods and people" being outed will cause us to suck wind?

Concerning Barr and Wray's press conference and the shooting that occurred at Naval Air Station Pensacola on Dec. 6, 2019 by Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, the DOJ didn't classify the incident as an act of terrorism until Jan. 13, 2020.

What is the purpose of our intelligence agencies if they cannot prevent terrorism on our shores?

It appears that Obama and his administration were more concerned with Flynn and Trump than terrorists sponsored by al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

How much of the resources of our intelligence agencies were wasted on a Russian collusion hoax, in addition to the $40 million sham Mueller investigation?

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Now that Judge Sullivan has coerced Covington & Burling to reenter the case, it would be remiss of Gleeson not to similarly look at them for subornation of perjury as a criminal contempt of court as well.

Again baseless in the law but as long as he's just making stuff up as he goes along, might as well be consistent, right?

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Flynn would still be covered by attorney-client privilege vis-a-vis Covington & Burling, correct?

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Now that Judge Sullivan has coerced Covington & Burling to reenter the case, it would be remiss of Gleeson not to similarly look at them for subornation of perjury as a criminal contempt of court as well.

Again baseless in the law but as long as he's just making stuff up as he goes along, might as well be consistent, right?

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Flynn would still be covered by attorney-client privilege vis-a-vis Covington & Burling, correct?

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Unsure how far that would still extend after Flynn waived it because of the ineffective assistance of counsel claim.

ETA: To clarify, I don't know how narrow that waiver was.