Just do it already.

List of names from the Podesta Group & Skadden Arps.

Is that real? Podesta asserts that Deep State is not only real, but has an organizational structure that includes sleeper cells?

Surely this is bogus.

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Is that real? Podesta asserts that Deep State is not only real, but has an organizational structure that includes sleeper cells?

Surely this is bogus.

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You must think it's a game

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1037550027864858625.html

Interesting thread. No question the MSM is going overboard right now to paint Trump in a bad way. I think Rex is right -- the MSM is really worried. Since the NYT likely possesses an unredacted copy of the original FISA warrant on Carter Page via Wolfe, the latter or the subsequent renewals must contain some rather damaging info. If the FISA warrant is released by Trump tomorrow as speculated, there might be real fireworks. Supposedly today, several members of Congress are going to formally request that Trump declassify the FISA warrant.

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Is that real? Podesta asserts that Deep State is not only real, but has an organizational structure that includes sleeper cells?

Surely this is bogus.

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Deep State, you say?

RoscoePColtrane said:

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Wildcat said:

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Is that real? Podesta asserts that Deep State is not only real, but has an organizational structure that includes sleeper cells?

Surely this is bogus.

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You must think it's a game

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What you are suggesting is a formalized coup.

I'm not a contributor on this thread, but have followed along. Your contributions are appreciated, but do you really want to go that far?

It's one thing to "play politics", damage your political opponents and stymie their agenda. But this is something else.

Horowitz supposedly investigating Rosenstein per diGenova.

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Wildcat said:

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Is that real? Podesta asserts that Deep State is not only real, but has an organizational structure that includes sleeper cells?

Surely this is bogus.

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You must think it's a game

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What you are suggesting is a formalized coup.

I'm not a contributor on this thread, but have followed along. Your contributions are appreciated, but do you really want to go that far?

It's one thing to "play politics", damage your political opponents and stymie their agenda. But this is something else.

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Yes...yes it is!

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Interesting that Judge Cavanaugh was asked in his confirmation hearing yesterday about civilians being tried in front of a military tribunal. He knew the answer.

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Keep that stuff in the Q thread, gracias.

Looks like the 20 pages are on the way.

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Horowitz supposedly investigating Rosenstein per diGenova.

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I'm taking that with a grain of salt. Although Rosenstein certainly should be questioned closely about his conflicts of interest here I'm just not that trustful of diGenova's sources all of the time. Like Napolitano, diGenova goes out on a limb some times.

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Interesting that Judge Cavanaugh was asked in his confirmation hearing yesterday about civilians being tried in front of a military tribunal. He knew the answer.

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Keep that stuff in the Q thread, gracias.

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Why? It happened in live session, not on 8chan.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1037358656138792967.html

Interesting thread which identifies people working with Strzok & Priestap in the FBI's Counterintelligence Division; some of these names are new to the public.

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Interesting that Judge Cavanaugh was asked in his confirmation hearing yesterday about civilians being tried in front of a military tribunal. He knew the answer.

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Keep that stuff in the Q thread, gracias.

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Why? It happened in live session, not on 8chan.

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Because at this point, it has nothing to do with this thread.

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Federal prosecutors have for months been using a grand jury to investigate former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe -- an indication the probe into whether he misled officials exploring his role in a controversial media disclosure has intensified, two people familiar with the matter said.

The grand jury has summoned more than one witness, the people said, and the case is ongoing. The people declined to identify those who had been called to testify.

The presence of the grand jury shows prosecutors are treating the matter seriously, locking in the accounts of witnesses who might later have to testify at a trial. But such panels are sometimes used only as investigative tools, and it remains unclear if McCabe will ultimately be charged....

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I suspect the investigation is delving into more than just a controversial media disclosure.

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This feels like it would explain the ridiculous smear jobs this week by the left.

If Trump declassifies these documents, and they bear out that all of the FISA stuff is a witch hunt and justify Trump's accusations, Dems need to have something to squawk about besides that.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/405484-bruce-ohrs-efforts-to-secretly-reshape-the-trump-probe-started-earlier-in

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That's because new evidence shows former Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr's efforts to influence the FBI's Russia probe -- on behalf of Donald Trump-despising British spy Christopher Steele started much earlier than previously described.

For much of the past year, many in Congress have labored under the notion that Ohr, then the No. 4 Department of Justice (DOJ) official, began assisting the FBI's probe into Russia election collusion only after Trump won the 2016 election.

Lawmakers' belief was rooted in reports showing Ohr's first documented interview with FBI agents occurred in November 2016, and in testimony from Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson, who mentioned Ohr's involvement in the probe as starting after Thanksgiving 2016.

But now, based on Ohr's own account in a closed-door congressional interview and other contemporaneous documents, congressional investigators have learned that Ohr made his first contact with the FBI about Trump-Russia collusion evidence in late July and early August 2016. And his approach was prompted by information he got from his friend, the former British intelligence agent Steele.

The discovery is one of several key pieces of evidence emerging in recent weeks that explain how the FBI probe pivoted suddenly from looking at the conduct of Trump adviser George Papadopoulos to consuming a document now infamously known as the Steele dossier.

The FBI formally opened the Trump campaign probe -- code-named Crossfire Hurricane -- on July 31, 2016, based on an Australian diplomat's claim that Papadopoulos, a young Trump campaign foreign policy aide, appeared to have prior knowledge that Russia had derogatory information it planned to release on Hillary Clinton.

Agents feared Papadopoulos might be looking to create contacts in Moscow to gain access to that Clinton dirt.

But multiple sources tell me the FBI soon received information -- now considered highly classified -- that undercut the theory of the Papadopoulos case. One source described the evidence as "indisputably exculpatory," while another said the information "put the predicate used to start the case in reversal."
Whatever the nature of that classified evidence, the FBI's own account in court records shows agents suddenly seemed to lose a sense of urgency about the Papadopoulos allegation. They inexplicably waited about six months to interview both the Trump campaign aide and the European professor who allegedly alerted Papadopoulos to the Russia dirt and introduced him to Moscow contacts....

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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1037863445562122241.html

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OHR met with STEELE 3 times in Jul-16 (all before FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane)

OHR also talked to FBI same month

FBI received "indisputably exculpatory" classified info early on that "undercut the theory of the Papadopoulos case"

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http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/405484-bruce-ohrs-efforts-to-secretly-reshape-the-trump-probe-started-earlier-in

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FBI (and @RepAdamSchiff) say FBI didn't receive the dossier until Mid September 2016, so they couldn't have opened Crossfire on the basis of it - it was PapaD

But did they receive *the same allegations* (at that pojnt, what was in the first memo only) from BRUCE OHR instead?
"Steele met with Ohr and Ohr's wife, Nellie, in a Washington hotel restaurant for breakfast [on July 30 2016]"

STEELE met directly with NELLIE OHR and the Trump/Russia allegations were discussed at this meeting
"Ohr called then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe the same day as his Steele breakfast"

July 30 2016 - The same day Ohr met with Steele to discuss Trump/Russia, he directly called Andy McCabe, no.2 at the FBI about it

July 31 - The DAY AFTER, the FBI opened Crossfire Hurricane
I'll just leave this here

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/emails-show-2016-links-among-steele-ohr-simpson-with-russian-oligarch-in-background

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Emails show 2016 links among Steele, Ohr, Simpson with Russian oligarch in background

....The emails, given to Congress by the Justice Department, began on Jan. 12, 2016, when Steele sent Ohr a New Year's greeting. Steele brought up the case of Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska (referred to in various emails as both OD and OVD), who was at the time seeking a visa to attend an Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation meeting in the United States. Years earlier, the U.S. revoked Deripaska's visa, reportedly on the basis of suspected involvement with Russian organized crime. Deripaska was close to Paul Manafort, the short-term Trump campaign chairman now on trial for financial crimes, and this year was sanctioned in the wake of Russian involvement in the 2016 presidential election.

"I heard from Adam WALDMAN [a Deripaska lawyer/lobbyist] yesterday that OD is applying for another official US visa ice [sic] APEC business at the end of February," Steele wrote in the Jan . 12 email. Steele said Deripaska was being "encouraged by the Agency guys who told Adam that the USG [United States Government] stance on [Deripaska] is softening." Steele concluded: "A positive development it seems."...

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Look who Ohr & Steele are talking about in January 2016...Deripaska & Waldman. That Waldman chap really gets around. Makes one wonder if Senator Warner was in the loop earlier than revealed in his text messages with Waldman in 2017.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/09/06/congressional-sources-confirm-timeline-of-bruce-ohr-chris-steele-and-fbi-contacts-with-andrew-mccabe-lisa-page-and-peter-strzok/

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Oh snap. Now, Nellie and Glenn Simpson had a problem. They needed to have a way to launder unlawfully extracted FISA search results. Nellie Ohr was familiar with Christopher Steele from her husband Bruce's prior working relationship with Steele in the FIFA corruption case.

So Fusion GPS (Glenn Simpson and Nellie Ohr) reached out to Christopher Steele. As a former intelligence officer, and conveniently not in the U.S. (plausible deniability improves), Steele could then receive the Nellie research, wash it with his own research from ongoing relationships with Russian Oligarch Oleg Deripaska, here comes the hookers and pee tapes. and begin packaging it as the "dossier".

When you understand what was going on, some of the irreconcilable issues surrounding the dossier make sense. [Example Here] This is the Big Effen Deal.

The unlawful FISA extracted intelligence/research was laundered through the use of the dossier. The information was then cycled back to Bruce Ohr, Nellie's wife, thereby using Christopher Steele to remove the fingerprints of the origination. That's why Bruce Ohr never initially told the FBI about his wife working for Fusion GPS and Glenn Simpson.

Bruce Ohr meets with Christopher Steele, takes the laundered intelligence within the dossier, informs Andrew McCabe and Lisa Page and then passes the intelligence along to Peter Strzok.

Does this explain now why Glenn Simpson, Chris Steele, Nellie Ohr and Bruce Ohr were having breakfast together on July 30th, 2016? :::Ding-Ding-Ding:::

Through this process what no-one is yet recognizing, is that much of the material inside the Steele Dossier is actually research intelligence material unlawfully extracted from the FBI and NSA database; most likely in majority assembly by Nellie Ohr....

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I think The Conservative Treehouse (Sundance) is spot on. Nellie obtains the illegal intel from the NSA database, assembles it, passes it on to Steele who embellishes it with material from Deripaska, then Steele coordinates it with Bruce who then passes it to Strzok/McCabe et al at the FBI. If you have difficulty understanding the above scenario, please read the entire article.

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Nellie obtains the illegal intel from the NSA database, assembles it, passes it on to Steele who embellishes it with material from Deripaska, then Steele coordinates it with Bruce who then passes it to Strzok/McCabe et al at the FBI.

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Yes, but will someone in the gang-of-six flip, breech the firewall, and expose the entire junta?

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Is that real? Podesta asserts that Deep State is not only real, but has an organizational structure that includes sleeper cells?

Surely this is bogus.

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You must think it's a game

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What you are suggesting is a formalized coup.

I'm not a contributor on this thread, but have followed along. Your contributions are appreciated, but do you really want to go that far?

It's one thing to "play politics", damage your political opponents and stymie their agenda. But this is something else.

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I'm just curious where you derived at the notion that I am suggesting anything. I posted the image of a tweet I had no part in creating. And you accused it of being fake.

I then posted the actual live tweet, and you then accuse me of suggesting a formalized Coup d'etat. Maybe I'm a little slow on the uptake, but shouldn't you be directing your suggestion accusation to John Podesta?

I never suggested anything, but I keep my powder dry just in case.

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You have suggested a great deal. The notion that you have suggested nothing is silly. But you did use your cutesy emoticon and got 8 lackeys to star it, so kudos to you.

That I questioned something that was screen-capped on the internet is not unreasonable. I appreciated you posting the original.

The narrative forming on this thread (and from the NYT OpEd) is that there is a formalized collection of bureaucrats and appointees actively working to undermine the Administration. I don't mean leaks that embarrass Trump; I mean an active effort to thwart policy initiatives and have him removed from office by intentionally interfering with the wishes of the President and his senior advisers. Someone on this thread has even trotted out the term "junta". On a related thread, one poster is fantasizing about FBI officials being perp-walked in the run-up to mid-terms.

From my chair, it's hard to know how much of this is beginning to slip into conspiracy theory nut-land and how much could actually be real/truth.

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The narrative forming on this thread (and from the NYT OpEd) is that there is a formalized collection of bureaucrats and appointees actively working to undermine the Administration. I don't mean leaks that embarrass Trump; I mean an active effort to thwart policy initiatives and have him removed from office by intentionally interfering with the wishes of the President and his senior advisers. Someone on this thread has even trotted out the term "junta". On a related thread, one poster is fantasizing about FBI officials being perp-walked in the run-up to mid-terms.

From my chair, it's hard to know how much of this is beginning to slip into conspiracy theory nut-land and how much could actually be real/truth.

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I'm not sure how you can observe all the FACTS that have been presented and come to any other reasonable conclusion. At this point, it would be the wildest set of coincidences ever seen if this wasn't some type of coup. The number of people involved is really the only question at this point.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/they-dont-have-anything-on-carter-page-and-they-never-did_2642743.html